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Californian Elitist

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Because...
It's the same reason that, when asked, I say I live near Raleigh, NC. No one knows where, or how to pronounce, Fuquay Varina.

I understand that many people have never heard of Lake Buena Vista, but Disney should still advertise WDW as being in Lake Buena Vista. Many people believe Disneyland is in Los Angeles, but Disney doesn't advertise it as such.

My point still stands anyway. The parks are further from each other in CA. Besides Knott's, it takes at least an hour to get to the other popular parks.

Anyone want to tell me how long it takes them to get to the other parks from WDW?
 

jakeman

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I understand that many people have never heard of Lake Buena Vista, but Disney should still advertise WDW as being in Lake Buena Vista. Many people believe Disneyland is in Los Angeles, but Disney doesn't advertise it as such.
Why not?

It's been associated with Orlando from day one. The Orlando Sentinel was the one that broke the story that WDW was going to be built.

Anyone want to tell me how long it takes them to get to the other parks from WDW
Depending on traffic 30-45 minutes.
 

Master Yoda

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I understand that many people have never heard of Lake Buena Vista, but Disney should still advertise WDW as being in Lake Buena Vista. Many people believe Disneyland is in Los Angeles, but Disney doesn't advertise it as such.

My point still stands anyway. The parks are further from each other in CA. Besides Knott's, it takes at least an hour to get to the other popular parks.

Anyone want to tell me how long it takes them to get to the other parks from WDW?
Depending on traffic, SeaWorld is about 15-30 min, US/IOS about 30-45 and BGT is around an hour. The nice thing about the central Florida parks is pretty much everything is off on major interstate (I-4). As long as you know which way to go on I-4 and can read signs, you can find pretty much anything tourist related between Tampa and Orlando.
 

Californian Elitist

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Why not?

It's been associated with Orlando from day one. The Orlando Sentinel was the one that broke the story that WDW was going to be built.

Depending on traffic 30-45 minutes.

It's unprofessional, IMO. I don't see what the Orlando Sentinel announcement has to do with anything. Whatever, Disney doesn't care about my opinion so it doesn't matter. Thanks for explaining everything to me.
 

Californian Elitist

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Depending on traffic, SeaWorld is about 15-30 min, US/IOS about 30-45 and BGT is around an hour. The nice thing about the central Florida parks is pretty much everything is off on major interstate (I-4). As long as you know which way to go on I-4 and can read signs, you can find pretty much anything tourist related between Tampa and Orlando.

Those aren't far drives at all. Sounds very convenient.
 

fosse76

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I understand that many people have never heard of Lake Buena Vista, but Disney should still advertise WDW as being in Lake Buena Vista. Many people believe Disneyland is in Los Angeles, but Disney doesn't advertise it as such.
I think you are intentionally being argumentative. While WDW is not technically in Orlando, it is in the Orlando area. Tourist attractions always advertise as being a part of the closest metropolitan area. It's done everywhere. Disneyland Paris isn't actually IN Paris. Six Flags St. Louis isn't IN St. Louis. Southern California, however, is a different beast altogether, thanks to Hollywood. People are at least somewhat familiar with the names of Southern California cities and towns, so they have an idea, geographically, where things may be. So attractions don't have to advertise themselves as part of LA.

My point still stands anyway. The parks are further from each other in CA. Besides Knott's, it takes at least an hour to get to the other popular parks.
And as has been mentioned before, that's not true. Universal Orlando and Sea World are further away from WDW than Knott's Berry Farm is from Disneyland. I'm not familiar with where Legoland is located, but I'm pretty sure it's not that close either. Busch Gardens Tampa is about an hour from Orlando, I believe.
 

jakeman

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It's unprofessional, IMO. I don't see what the Orlando Sentinel announcement has to do with anything. Whatever, Disney doesn't care about my opinion so it doesn't matter. Thanks for explaining everything to me.
I'm curious as to why it is unprofessional?

The city of Orlando and WDW have been intertwine in the public's consciousnesses since day 1. Lake Buena Vista only exist because of Walt Disney World. It wasn't incorporated until Disney showed up. It currently only has 10 residents.

Also, it's not like Disney is a hour away from the Orlando city limits like DLR and LA are. You could walk if you wanted to. I lived 10 minutes away from the MK gates and was in Orlando.
 

Master Yoda

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Those aren't far drives at all. Sounds very convenient.
It really is. I would assume it is one of the reasons why the area has become such a world wide tourist destination. WDW aside, you could literally spend 2 weeks at places between Tamp and Orlando and never go out of sight of I-4. I would often tell my clients that if you can find I-4, you can get anywhere.
 

Californian Elitist

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I think you are intentionally being argumentative. While WDW is not technically in Orlando, it is in the Orlando area. Tourist attractions always advertise as being a part of the closest metropolitan area. It's done everywhere. Disneyland Paris isn't actually IN Paris. Six Flags St. Louis isn't IN St. Louis. Southern California, however, is a different beast altogether, thanks to Hollywood. People are at least somewhat familiar with the names of Southern California cities and towns, so they have an idea, geographically, where things may be. So attractions don't have to advertise themselves as part of LA.


And as has been mentioned before, that's not true. Universal Orlando and Sea World are further away from WDW than Knott's Berry Farm is from Disneyland. I'm not familiar with where Legoland is located, but I'm pretty sure it's not that close either. Busch Gardens Tampa is about an hour from Orlando, I believe.

Why would I intentionally be argumentative? I actually tried to squash the topic. I've never been to Florida and I'm trying to understand the situation. It's weird to me that WDW isn't in Orlando but it's advertised as such. That's my opinion. You don't really see that in CA and that's why I'm trying to understand. That's all.

I totally said "besides Knott's" and captainkidd already told me Knott's is closer to Disneyland than Universal and Sea World are to WDW. I wasn't denying that. Read some of the earlier posts.
 

Californian Elitist

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It really is. I would assume it is one of the reasons why the area has become such a world wide tourist destination. WDW aside, you could literally spend 2 weeks at places between Tamp and Orlando and never go out of sight of I-4. I would often tell my clients that if you can find I-4, you can get anywhere.

I've got something to look forward to!
 

Master Yoda

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Why would I intentionally be argumentative? I actually tried to squash the topic. I've never been to Florida and I'm trying to understand the situation. It's weird to me that WDW isn't in Orlando but it's advertised as such. That's my opinion. You don't really see that in CA and that's why I'm trying to understand. That's all.

I totally said "besides Knott's" and captainkidd already told me Knott's is closer to Disneyland than Universal and Sea World are to WDW. I wasn't denying that. Read some of the earlier posts.
LA seems to be the one are of the country where to opposite happens. LA county has areas that are technically are part of the city, but identify separately. Hollywood, Bel-Air and Beverly Hills come to mind. Elsewhere in the country, smaller towns tend to associate themselves with the neighboring city. This is what you see with WDW and Orlando.
 

Californian Elitist

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LA seems to be the one are of the country where to opposite happens. LA county has areas that are technically are part of the city, but identify separately. Hollywood, Bel-Air and Beverly Hills come to mind. Elsewhere in the country, smaller towns tend to associate themselves with the neighboring city. This is what you see with WDW and Orlando.

That's why I've been confused. I totally understand, now. Thank you for making it easy for me to understand. I was so confused, thank you.
 

flynnibus

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It's unprofessional, IMO

I think you are alone in that opinion.

Did you know the Pentagon isn't REALLY in washington DC? It's in Arlington, VA.. but no one discusses it like that.

Or you have others, where they basically fake the address... like airports. Baltimore Washington International Airport isn't in either city... Denver's airport is REALLY in Denver..

It's common practice to advertise your location based on references people can relate to... especially when talking to people from remote locations who are not familar with the specifics in the locality.

Edit: I"m a bit late to the party it seems :) But I like the DLP example given too :)
 

Californian Elitist

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I think you are alone in that opinion.

Did you know the Pentagon isn't REALLY in washington DC? It's in Arlington, VA.. but no one discusses it like that.

Or you have others, where they basically fake the address... like airports. Baltimore Washington International Airport isn't in either city... Denver's airport is REALLY in Denver..

It's common practice to advertise your location based on references people can relate to... especially when talking to people from remote locations who are not familar with the specifics in the locality.

Edit: I"m a bit late to the party it seems :) But I like the DLP example given too :)

Well, as I've stated before, that is not common in California. It's my opinion... Doesn't matter if I'm alone on that.;)
 

jakeman

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Well, as I've stated before, that is not common in California. It's my opinion... Doesn't matter if I'm alone on that.;)
You're right on that. Just be prepared to experience quite a bit of unprofessionalism if you ever leave southern California.
 

flynnibus

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Well, as I've stated before, that is not common in California. It's my opinion... Doesn't matter if I'm alone on that.;)

What you are used to is the idea of a large urban metroplex.. and how people refer to their location within that area to other people familiar with the area. Because simply saying 'LA' would 1) not be specific enough 2) can bring unintended perceptions.. or even lacks some differentiation the person intended (like wanting to infer a nicer/richer area)

It's the same reason people talk about neighborhoods in a city, vs just the city name when talking to people familiar with the area. Or why someone would say Brooklyn vs NYC. You are using precision to convey more detail to someone who will understand the differentiation.

But when you talk to someone NOT familiar with the area... you talk more general. If you were meeting someone from France for the first time.. and they asked where you lived... would you say 'Fullerton, CA' or would you say 'LA' or 'California'? You tend to answer people with a reference you hope they can pin down.

The point of reference you give tends to be relative to the audience's familiarity. When advertising to the world.. and country... there is no value to differentiate between the local municipality, and the regional anchor people are familiar with.
 

Californian Elitist

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What you are used to is the idea of a large urban metroplex.. and how people refer to their location within that area to other people familiar with the area. Because simply saying 'LA' would 1) not be specific enough 2) can bring unintended perceptions.. or even lacks some differentiation the person intended (like wanting to infer a nicer/richer area)

It's the same reason people talk about neighborhoods in a city, vs just the city name when talking to people familiar with the area. Or why someone would say Brooklyn vs NYC. You are using precision to convey more detail to someone who will understand the differentiation.

But when you talk to someone NOT familiar with the area... you talk more general. If you were meeting someone from France for the first time.. and they asked where you lived... would you say 'Fullerton, CA' or would you say 'LA' or 'California'? You tend to answer people with a reference you hope they can pin down.

The point of reference you give tends to be relative to the audience's familiarity. When advertising to the world.. and country... there is no value to differentiate between the local municipality, and the regional anchor people are familiar with.

The thing is, I don't do that. I'm very specific when it comes to things like that. If I'm in Inglewood or Lancaster or any other city within LA County, I'm not going to tell someone I'm in LA. I'm going to tell them I'm specifically in Inglewood or Lancaster. If they don't where these cities are, all I have to do is explain. I tell people I'm from Los Angeles, CA. If I were from Frisco or Burbank or Compton or wherever else, I'd tell them that. That's just me, I'm not broad when it comes to location. I'm very specific, even if I'm speaking who is not aware of the area.
 

Furiated

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Don't forget JetBlue and their major West Coast hub at Long Beach. I lived in Boston once, and still use JetBlue to fly back there occasionally on business.

You can get great flights to Logan from Long Beach. Long Beach Airport is a 25 minute taxi ride to the Disneyland Hotel. http://www.jetblue.com

And the new Long Beach Airport with its new indoor/outdoor terminal is one of the most stylish and easiest airports I've ever seen in this country. Although it has firepits and iPad bars, you still walk out onto the tarmac and up the mobile stairs to board the plane at Long Beach Airport. But I like that as it gives me a chance to pretend I'm one of The Beatles arriving at JFK in 1964. Except when I turn around at the top of the stairs there's never any screaming teenagers!

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JetBlue has dozens of flights per day into Long Beach Airport, mere minutes from the Disneyland Hotel.

EDIT: I just checked the JetBlue website, and they've got nonstop flights from Boston to Long Beach and back for $488 round trip this summer. There are also other JetBlue flights from Logan into Long Beach that change planes in New York or San Francisco or Las Vegas for slightly more.

As a fellow Bostonian that goes to DLR regularly, I wanted to chime in to agree on this 100%! I always fly into Long Beach, never LAX. The BOS-LGB direct flights on JetBlue are fantastic.
 

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