News Disneyland Resort To Be A Major OC Vaccination Site-OCR

truecoat

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I am a news junkie, I visit realclearpolitics.com every morning with my coffee, and I love to Google things I don't know!

You know what's funny about that? On Sunday morning I literally Googled what the school colors were for Soka University so I would know what to wear to the vaccination.

Their colors are blue and gold. And I looked great in that gym! Like a famous alumnus come home to roost. :cool:

It's too bad Real Clear started taking donations from the extreme right. They lean a bit more right for my taste now.
 

TP2000

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Not how it works or an accurate summary. Shocking.

What I find shocking is how you have failed to criticize Soka University for administering their shots indoors, in a heated and ventilated enclosed building. Plus parking cars in a multi-level parking structure! ;)

And, I'm sure you know far more than anyone else here on current vaccine trials for children.

But right now they aren't giving the Covid shot to kids, unless there's a major health problem going on and it's considered an "emergency use". Everyone at Soka University was old.

But by the end of this year? Kids could get the shot.

"Dr. Jose Romero, the chair of the CDC’s Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices, said he hopes to see trials testing Covid-19 vaccines in young children beginning in the second quarter of 2021. If the vaccines prove to be safe and effective, children under the age of 18 could get their shots in the second half of next year, he said.

A vaccine cannot be distributed to children until it’s been rigorously tested in children in clinical trials."

 
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TP2000

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It's too bad Real Clear started taking donations from the extreme right. They lean a bit more right for my taste now.

If you are talking about their editorials they provide, they do go after liberal politicians and policies rather fairly. But compared to CNN or MSNBC who won't touch many liberal politicians or policy issues with a ten foot pole? Yeah, then realclearpolitics editorial board could be seen as "right leaning" for reporting on liberal scandals.

But their editorial board is a minor offering that is easy to skip. I usually do. But I love them for their aggregate collection of stories and articles from across the political spectrum, and they so often will pair them right next to each other on the same topic. So you can read an article about teacher's unions keeping schools closed from The Federalist, and then immediately read an article about teacher's unions keeping schools closed from The Guardian.

It's that balance of opinions and offerings from across the spectrum, all presented easily and tidily, that I have enjoyed from realclearpolitics. They have sister sites too that do the same thing for more casual topics, like realclearhistory, realclearworld, etc.
 

TP2000

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So as has being told to you, supply percentage is becoming a meaningless stat to follow.

Much like the Othena App suddenly coming to life after two weeks of frustrating nothingness and OC seniors suddenly being able to get appointments for shots the next day, the supply of vaccine is only increasing by the day. Millions and millions of doses are going out to the states each week, which was the plan all along to increase supply and distribution through the winter.

So, yes, I agree that as that ramp up invevitably happens, the supply percentage sitting unused across California will become less important. The damage to California's reputation, and Governor Newsom's career, was already done on that topic back in January. So let's look ahead through the rest of the winter and on to spring!

And that's where it's just going to get down to shots in arms. An easy metric to track. :)
 

Disney Irish

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Much like the Othena App suddenly coming to life after two weeks of frustrating nothingness and OC seniors suddenly being able to get appointments for shots the next day, the supply of vaccine is only increasing by the day. Millions and millions of doses are going out to the states each week, which was the plan all along to increase supply and distribution through the winter.

So, yes, I agree that as that ramp up invevitably happens, the supply percentage sitting unused across California will become less important. The damage to California's reputation, and Governor Newsom's career, was already done on that topic back in January. So let's look ahead through the rest of the winter and on to spring!

And that's where it's just going to get down to shots in arms. An easy metric to track. :)
I'm happy to hear that you're starting to come around to the "percentage used" metric being less important, meaning that ranking is not really all that important either.

More capacity is coming online as we speak.

Today another supersite was announced in the Bay Area, at the Oakland Coliseum. It'll be ready mid-February.

In addition the Biden Administration announced last night that shipments of the vaccine can now go directly to local pharmacies, which wasn't done originally as they were tasked with long term care facilities. So something you've been asking for was already coming, and now will be done starting on the 11th, it'll be a slow roll out first as supply is still limited, but will increase over time. So that'll ramp up distribution big time.

California will hit over 4M doses administered by end of day Friday. Doing approximately 1M per week, and still ramping up. And I wouldn't at all be surprised if we hit 10M total administered by the end of the month. Meaning March is when I expect 1C group to start, with hopefully Phase 2 starting in April and finished completely by mid-May if not earlier.

We'll see how it goes but this should all be positive news and you should be less negative about the situation now.
 

TP2000

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Good news: My county opened up to Phase 1b and I got my first dose today! <3
Bad news: My parents' county is still woefully behind and can't even manage to move to the 65+ tier. They are still doing health care workers and 75+.

I can beat that. I had dinner last night with friends (at a small Vietnamese place that has returned to Indoor Dining to save their family business), and learned the following;

A friend has friends up in Oregon. They are both 80 years old, and the husband is a US Navy Veteran. They can not get a Covid shot because Oregon has not yet begun vaccinating people who aren't in their pre-determined career choices. Oregon has been busy the past six weeks vaccinating every school teacher and grocery store worker in the state, but elderly people who aren't teachers or don't work in "first responder" careers aren't eligible to get a vaccine shot. Now Oregon has to vaccinate all the prisoners in the state prisons before it can begin offering Covid shots to those over age 80 later this month. Then they'll move to Oregonians over age 75, then over age 70, etc.

So 35 year old teachers and 20 year old kids working at Target and loser convicted felons in an Oregon prison are all getting their Covid shots before a law-abiding, tax-paying, 80 year old Navy Veteran and his wife will be allowed to get a Covid shot later in February.

As a doctor, I'm sure you know the Science & Data on who Covid kills and impacts most. And it's not 20 year olds.

The way some states have handled their Covid vaccine distribution is criminal, in my opinion. But then, the citizens of those states voted those Governors and politicians into power before 2020, so they get what they voted for. :rolleyes:
 

TP2000

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Soka University will soon begin offering a drive-thru option for getting a Covid shot. This might be a fun thing to do when I take my lady friend back for her second shot in a few weeks. I'll look into that for her. No word on doing that at Disneyland, but they certainly have plenty of space there!


As for the rest of the world, the United States continues to lead the Free World just behind the United Kingdom in shots given and percentage of population inoculated. It's quite interesting how the European Union and Canada remains so far behind the United States and UK. The stats as of close of business February 4th...

United Kingdom = 16 Doses Given Per 100 People, 15.7% of Population Given One Shot, 0.8% Fully Vaccinated
United States = 11 Doses Given Per 100 People, 8.7% of Population Given One Shot, 2.5% Fully Vaccinated
Spain = 4 Doses Given Per 100 People, 2.8% of Population Given One Shot, 1.3% Fully Vaccinated
Italy = 3.8 Doses Given Per 100 People, 2.3% of Population Given One Shot, 1.6% Fully Vaccinated
Germany = 3.4 Doses Given Per 100 People, 2.5% of Population Given One Shot, 0.9% Fully Vaccinated
Sweden = 3.1 Doses Given Per 100 People, 2.7% of Population Given One Shot, 0.7% Fully Vaccinated
Belgium = 3.1 Doses Given Per 100 People, 2.7% of Population Given One Shot, 0.4% Fully Vaccinated
France = 2.8 Doses Given Per 100 People, 2.4% of Population Given One Shot, 0.2% Fully Vaccinated
Austria = 2.7 Doses Given Per 100 People, 2.5% of Population Given One Shot, 0.9% Fully Vaccinated
Canada = 2.7 Doses Given Per 100 People, 1.6% of Population Given One Shot, 0.4% Fully Vaccinated


Before all those stylish American hipsters really do move to Canada because they hate the USA, they better make sure they're up to date on all their shots! ;)

Then there's the list of mostly Pacific Rim nations, some quite wealthy and very advanced, who haven't even started vaccinating their populations and have no meaningful supply of vaccine delivered to their countries yet; Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

 
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TP2000

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How does one lead from behind?

I don't know how you get that. The United States has been averaging more than 1 Million shots into arms per day for the past several weeks now.

That's 11 doses per 100 Americans as of yesterday. Compared to the wealthy European nations, and Canada, that are a fraction of America's rate...

Spain = 4 doses per 100 Spaniards, or only 36% of America's vaccination rate
Germany = 3.4 doses per 100 Germans, or only 31% of America's vaccination rate
France = 2.8 doses per 100 Frenchmen, or only 26% of America's vaccination rate
Canada = 2.7 doses per 100 Canadians, or only 24% of America's vaccination rate

 

fctiger

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I'm happy to hear that you're starting to come around to the "percentage used" metric being less important, meaning that ranking is not really all that important either.

More capacity is coming online as we speak.

Today another supersite was announced in the Bay Area, at the Oakland Coliseum. It'll be ready mid-February.

In addition the Biden Administration announced last night that shipments of the vaccine can now go directly to local pharmacies, which wasn't done originally as they were tasked with long term care facilities. So something you've been asking for was already coming, and now will be done starting on the 11th, it'll be a slow roll out first as supply is still limited, but will increase over time. So that'll ramp up distribution big time.

California will hit over 4M doses administered by end of day Friday. Doing approximately 1M per week, and still ramping up. And I wouldn't at all be surprised if we hit 10M total administered by the end of the month. Meaning March is when I expect 1C group to start, with hopefully Phase 2 starting in April and finished completely by mid-May if not earlier.

We'll see how it goes but this should all be positive news and you should be less negative about the situation now.

Although we still have a loooooong way to go, things sound like a turn is happening for the better. President Biden is really pushing hard to get all these vaccination sites open nationwide and you can already see the difference it's making. The number of cases and hospitalizations rates are already falling from this time a month ago. And they are already ahead of the promised 1 million a day vaccinations and up by 1.3 million. And that can increase in a few weeks as well. And today they made a deal with the NFL to open all their stadiums to be super vaccination sites. And as you pointed out, they will also start getting them inside pharmacies like CVS and Walmart which was announced months ago, but nothing was actually done. Hopefully that will start in a few weeks, at least in some stores for people who can't drive 20-30 miles to hit one of the super sites.

This is the difference when you have a President who is taking this seriously and working with states to get it out there instead of just expecting them to do on their own because you can't be bothered to do the work.

Of course none of this means we are anywhere close to over and Dr. Fauci is worried with all the new variants popping up we still may not be vaccinating people fast enough. But its at least some light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe by the summer the worst will finally be over, but not counting those chickens yet.
 

TP2000

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From your words that I quoted. That the US was leading the free world from a position behind the UK. Is the UK not part of the free world? Or perhaps I've misunderstood you. It doesn't matter.

Well, yes, the UK is ahead of the USA. Although they lag regarding second doses and full vaccination. I think I was pretty clear about that, and posted the UK stats quite prominently ahead of the USA.

United States = 2.5% of Americans are Fully Vaccinated
United Kingdom = 0.8% of Britons are Fully Vaccinated
Canada = 0.4% of Canadians are Fully Vaccinated
France = 0.3% of Frenchmen are Fully Vaccinated


What's fascinating is how far behind the European Union and Canada is compared to the UK and USA. Those countries are only one third to one fourth the rate of vaccinations as the USA currently is, and the USA has been gaining speed quickly since early January. What the heck are all those bureaucrats doing there in Brussels???

Bloomberg just updated their stats a few minutes ago after the close of business Eastern time on Friday. The USA is now up to 12 shots per 100 Americans, up from 11 shots per 100 as of yesterday. USA! USA! USA! :D

 
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TP2000

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Your idiot hero lied about the pandemic for months. He had nothing to do with the vaccine and silence the real experts.

How is the vaccine distributed among the 50 states? Do Governors just go on Amazon and order it up each week?

Or, six months ago, did the federal government develop a logistics and transportation system to distribute millions of doses per week to all 50 states and overseas territories? And who did the ordering from Pfizer and Moderna back in 2020? Was it Governor Newsom and his Amazon Prime account? Or was it the federal government that purchased 200 million doses from those private companies and began stockpiling last year?
 
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Robbiem

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Israel has the highest percentage of vaccinations in world and the good news is that research shows it really is helping with the virus spread overall


Europe has been a complete cluster from the start, not just in vacination but in how they’ve handed the outbreak from the start. If they had treated things differently we could be in a very different place now, but we cant change the past just hope the future learns from our mistakes
 

TP2000

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Israel has the highest percentage of vaccinations in world and the good news is that research shows it really is helping with the virus spread overall


Europe has been a complete cluster from the start, not just in vacination but in how they’ve handed the outbreak from the start. If they had treated things differently we could be in a very different place now, but we cant change the past just hope the future learns from our mistakes

Israel has been the obvious leader of the entire world. I haven't mentioned them specifically, because they are a smaller country and their Covid vaccine results have been, well, spectacular. Truly impressive! Israel is on my bucket list of countries to visit, just to see the Holy Lands if only to gain a few extra credit points with the guy upstairs before I kick the bucket. 🤣

The European Union has been a total disaster overall, especially six months ago when Covid and death rates were raging across many of their member nations. Their current rate of vaccinations for the EU is pitiful.

It's interesting how so many left-of-center folks point to the European Union as a model to emulate.

We're supposed to envy the European Union for what exactly? Death and misery and bureaucratic incompetence? :eek:
 

TP2000

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Before I get to my busy weekend, let's update the vaccine situation for those keeping score at home...

California continues to do very poorly. @Disney Irish felt we should be tracking the percent of people who have received both shots and are thus fully vaccinated, and there's merit to that train of thought. Although the amount of unused vaccine in each state is also of note.

The USA is now averaging 1.6 Million doses administered daily over the past week, continuing its ever upward trajectory of the last six weeks.

Bloomberg just updated their excellent tracking site for Thursday the 11th about an hour ago. Here's the top and bottom state, plus the five other states we've been tracking throughout (WV, MI, TX, FL, CA)...

#1 Alaska = 7.0% Population Given Both Doses, 15.9% Population Given One Dose, 62.0% Of Supply Used
#2 West Virginia = 6.5% Population Given Both Doses, 12.7% Population Given One Dose, 88.7% Of Supply Used
#11 Michigan = 4.3% Population Given Both Doses, 10.2% Population Given One Dose, 76.3% Of Supply Used
#15 Florida = 4.2% Population Given Both Doses, 10.1% Population Given One Dose, 70.8% Of Supply Used
#30 Texas = 3.3% Population Given Both Doses, 9.5% Population Given One Dose, 72.8% Of Supply Used
#48 California = 2.5% Population Given Both Doses, 10.2% Population Given One Dose, 67.6% Of Supply Used
#50 Alabama = 2.3% Population Given Both Doses, 8.9% Population Given One Dose, 60.6% Of Supply Used


 

Old Mouseketeer

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Just got my second shot at Disneyland. They are a little better organized this time. As I was moving through the early stages I heard someone call my name and it was a CM directing the line. He is a Stage Manager I knew years ago in Entertainment. Then, the woman who checked me in was a volunteer who is a CM in Entertainment Tech Services who knew some people I used to know.
 

TP2000

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News from the California Vaccine Front; they will soon let people between 16 and 64 with severe medical problems get the vaccine!

I'm not quite clear if this is a reworking of the Tier 1A and Phases, or a move into Tier 1B, but it's happening. Those aged 16 to 64 with severe medical problems can begin getting shots on March 15th.

There is still no vaccine available for children under age 16.


"State officials announced Friday, Feb. 12, that in one month, administrators can begin coronavirus vaccinations for anyone younger than 65 with a medical condition that increases their chances of having a deadly case of COVID-19.

Starting March 15, health care providers across California may vaccinate people ages 16 to 64 who are at highest risk if they catch the coronavirus, including people with cancer, chronic lung disease and various heart maladies.

Also included are pregnant women, people with Down syndrome and people who are severely obese, have Type 2 diabetes or have had an organ transplant, among other conditions."
 

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