News Disneyland Resort in California plans to begin phased reopening July 9

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cmwade77

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ThreadMaster5 said:
Because the union stated that their CMs were not comfortable working, I’m not sure what that has to do with testing?
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Their unions never asked the CMs if they were comfortable with working or not, they assumed they weren't, just check the comments on the applicable posts on the different union's facebook pages (most are completely public) and you will see many CMs chewing their unions out for this and saying they are perfectly willing and ready to go back to work. Please don't assume that because the union says something that it is accurate.

Additionally, for those that are indeed uncomfortable, Disney plans to use a three phase approach:
  1. Phase one - CMs will be called back in order of seniority per department (Full time first, then part time) and they can choose to come back or remain furloughed.
  2. Phase two - If additional CMs are still needed, CMs will be called back starting at lowest seniority and working their way up and told they have to return to work unless they are in a high risk category or live with someone who is. Presumably they would need to prove they are in a high risk category.
  3. Phase three - If additional CMs are still needed, those in high risk would then either need to return to work or go on disability, again called in order from lowest to highest seniority at this point.
This seems like a reasonable approach that gives as much flexibility as business needs will allow for. Additionally, many of the reasons the unions weren't comfortable have already been addressed by Disney and shown in Florida that they went way above and beyond what the unions here were expecting.
 
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cmwade77

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Disney Irish said:
It was one of the major points they put in their letter to Newsom about the reopening.

Right from the letter, I've made it bold and underlined to express the point:

"Each member Union of CRLU has met with the Company to discuss terms for reopening. Although Disney has provided some information and accommodated some of our concerns, such as the need for the company to take temperatures of all cast members as they enter the worksite, there are numerous questions about safety which Disney has not yet answered, including any serious discussion of ‘testing’ – which has been the cornerstone of plans for other areas of the entertainment industry re- opening. Moreover, Disney has rejected or not yet responded to important safety proposals made by CRLU member unions. Therefore, at this point we do not know if the resort can be operated safely. "

The very fact they made it the one item they specifically identified as being an area about safety that Disney didn't address indicates its a major sticking point.

Also aren't a majority of DTD employees not directly Disney employed, thus not CM?
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There are still a lot of DTD cast members employed directly by Disney, but the other thing is there have been meetings since that letter where Disney has addressed many of these issues. And as for testing, testing is being offered daily at the Anaheim Convention Center, so really it shouldn't be an issue anyway. This also began after said letter was sent, presumably because the city wanted to head off this problem.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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cmwade77 said:
There are still a lot of DTD cast members employed directly by Disney, but the other thing is there have been meetings since that letter where Disney has addressed many of these issues. And as for testing, testing is being offered daily at the Anaheim Convention Center, so really it shouldn't be an issue anyway. This also began after said letter was sent, presumably because the city wanted to head off this problem.
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I understand there have been meetings since that letter. My point was related to the original open letter sent to Newsom pointing out that testing was a serious issue they had surrounding any discussion of returning.

Now whether they consider off-site access to testing an acceptable alternative to Disney provided testing is a different question.
 
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ThreadMaster5

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cmwade77 said:
Their unions never asked the CMs if they were comfortable with working or not, they assumed they weren't, just check the comments on the applicable posts on the different union's facebook pages (most are completely public) and you will see many CMs chewing their unions out for this and saying they are perfectly willing and ready to go back to work. Please don't assume that because the union says something that it is accurate.

Additionally, for those that are indeed uncomfortable, Disney plans to use a three phase approach:
  1. Phase one - CMs will be called back in order of seniority per department (Full time first, then part time) and they can choose to come back or remain furloughed.
  2. Phase two - If additional CMs are still needed, CMs will be called back starting at lowest seniority and working their way up and told they have to return to work unless they are in a high risk category or live with someone who is. Presumably they would need to prove they are in a high risk category.
  3. Phase three - If additional CMs are still needed, those in high risk would then either need to return to work or go on disability, again called in order from lowest to highest seniority at this point.
This seems like a reasonable approach that gives as much flexibility as business needs will allow for. Additionally, many of the reasons the unions weren't comfortable have already been addressed by Disney and shown in Florida that they went way above and beyond what the unions here were expecting.
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Still doubtful
 
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ThreadMaster5

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If they really wanna see if there is a risk then they should do testing like they are in the bubble for every CM working, ya know why they don’t? It’s not monetary...I’ll wait
 
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Emmanuel

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Just tuned into Newsoms weekly COVID Reporting. Everything is still going downwards despite the backlog of tests.

In addition, there are now 42 counties now on the "Monitoring list".

Santa Cruz County is off the list and San Diego this week is expected to be the next county to get off the list.

If this downward trend continues, we'll likely see more counties drop off the list in the coming weeks.
 
NateD1226

NateD1226

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I haven’t been keeping up with this thread that much so i’m not sure if this has been mentioned but Downtown Disney workers are saying that there has been talks to open Main Street up for dining and shopping. Similar to what Knotts is doing with Taste of Calico except just more restricted with time slots to go into Main Street to shop/eat. Nothing confirmed. It just has been thrown out there
 
TP2000

TP2000

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ThreadMaster5 said:
Exactly! We’re still the worst or second worst state in the country
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I'm not sure what metric you are using, but by metrics such as Deaths Per Capita and Cases Per Capita, California is right in the middle of the pack of the 50 states (in the bottom half actually). That's where we've been throughout the pandemic for the past 4 months.

And roughly half of the deaths in California come from one single county; Los Angeles County, even though LA County's 10 Million residents are only 25% of the state population.

These stats are updated daily, and constantly in flux.

In the scariest metric, Deaths Per 1 Million Residents, here is where California stands among the 50 states, with the top 3 stats for deaths per capita as a point of reference, plus Florida as the other state with a Disneyland...

1. New Jersey = 1,800 Deaths Per 1 Million New Jerseyans
2. New York = 1,692 Deaths Per 1 Million New Yorkers
3. Massachusetts = 1,272 Deaths Per 1 Million Bay Staters
18. Florida = 444 Deaths Per 1 Million Floridians
28. California = 285 Deaths Per 1 Million Californians

In the metric of Confirmed Cases Per 1 Million Residents, here is the similar stats and where California falls among the 50 states...

1. Louisiana = 29,789 Cases Per 1 Million Louisianans
2. Florida = 26,882 Cases Per 1 Million Floridians
3. Arizona = 26,654 Cases Per 1 Million Arizonans
21. California = 15,979 Cases Per 1 Million Californians

One metric where California is tops is in the number of tests provided as of today, which makes sense as we are the most populous state...

1. California = 9,993,780 Tests Given To Californians
2. New York = 7,125,087 Tests Given To New Yorkers
3. Texas = 4,816,487 Tests Given To Texans

As of today, just over 71 Million Covid Tests have been administered in the United States for American citizens.

Stats are updated daily and may be found here. I watch these numbers constantly!

www.realclearpolitics.com

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics
www.realclearpolitics.com www.realclearpolitics.com

Also interesting is the Orange County stats, which are also updated daily and may be found here. Here you can see that Orange County is well below four of the five metrics being tracked for California's county watch list. OC has been trending well below the four metrics for several weeks now, although the Case Rate Per 100,000 is higher than the very low threshold of 25 per 100,000 that Governor Newsom set forth as the benchmark.

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cmwade77

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TP2000 said:
I'm not sure what metric you are using, but by metrics such as Deaths Per Capita and Cases Per Capita, California is right in the middle of the pack of the 50 states (in the bottom half actually). That's where we've been throughout the pandemic for the past 4 months.

And roughly half of the deaths in California come from one single county; Los Angeles County, even though LA County's 10 Million residents are only 25% of the state population.

These stats are updated daily, and constantly in flux.

In the scariest metric, Deaths Per 1 Million Residents, here is where California stands among the 50 states, with the top 3 stats for deaths per capita as a point of reference, plus Florida as the other state with a Disneyland...

1. New Jersey = 1,800 Deaths Per 1 Million New Jerseyans
2. New York = 1,692 Deaths Per 1 Million New Yorkers
3. Massachusetts = 1,272 Deaths Per 1 Million Bay Staters
18. Florida = 444 Deaths Per 1 Million Floridians
28. California = 285 Deaths Per 1 Million Californians

In the metric of Confirmed Cases Per 1 Million Residents, here is the similar stats and where California falls among the 50 states...

1. Louisiana = 29,789 Cases Per 1 Million Louisianans
2. Florida = 26,882 Cases Per 1 Million Floridians
3. Arizona = 26,654 Cases Per 1 Million Arizonans
21. California = 15,979 Cases Per 1 Million Californians

One metric where California is tops is in the number of tests provided as of today, which makes sense as we are the most populous state...

1. California = 9,993,780 Tests Given To Californians
2. New York = 7,125,087 Tests Given To New Yorkers
3. Texas = 4,816,487 Tests Given To Texans

As of today, just over 71 Million Covid Tests have been administered in the United States for American citizens.

Stats are updated daily and may be found here. I watch these numbers constantly!

www.realclearpolitics.com

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics
www.realclearpolitics.com www.realclearpolitics.com

Also interesting is the Orange County stats, which are also updated daily and may be found here. Here you can see that Orange County is well below four of the five metrics being tracked for California's county watch list. OC has been trending well below the four metrics for several weeks now, although the Case Rate Per 100,000 is higher than the very low threshold of 25 per 100,000 that Governor Newsom set forth as the benchmark.

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Come on, you aren't sticking with the speaking points that the media wants to cover to scare us to death. Really, California is pretty good overall, no matter what some want to convince us of.
 

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