Honestly would love to see an AP line at security and an AP/re-entry line for park hoppers at the entrance gates. I think those would be incredibly beneficial.
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Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Exactly. I could see the last two entrances gates employing self-scan AP kiosks.
nevol
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Proof that the one size fits all one-dimensional IP strategy isn't working! Pixar fest drew people away!
Phroobar
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You do raise a good point. Attendance levels are different now than ever. Why is Disney management letting in so many more people than they did even in the early 2000s? How come they can't close their gates when they reach a lower capacity? In 1995 when Indiana Jones opened, they let in 14.1 million but in 2016 they let in 17.9. How is the park suppose to support almost 4 million more visitors with no major e-ticket additions? Pure greed over guest experience is the answer. With that many additional people fast pass doesn't work anymore. I believe they need to let in less people, reduce/eliminate fast pass and increase attraction count with attractions that have high through put. Right now, we don't see any of that on the horizon. I bet with SWL they will hit 19 million. I guarantee Maxipass won't be $10 by then.
Disney Irish
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As the recent gabfest between TP and his nice neighbor lady revealed. The numbers put out by TEA are grossly underestimating the actually number of guests. It closer to 20 Million already. There won't be much more they can add, even when SW:GE comes online.
So if you admit that attendance levels are different more so than in the 90s when FP was introduced. Then what guarantee is there that anything would improve by FP being significantly reduced or eliminated? Its a hope on your part, but no guarantee. In fact things might even get worse, we don't know. Point is that you can't just flatly remove a system without looking at its impact on the overall environment.
I go back to my original statement, its not FP that is the problem. Its the fact that its been decades since new capacity attractions haven't been brought online, specifically higher capacity. So the same system can't handle increases in attendance due to no new capacity brought online. Disney appears to have realized this and is doing something about it. With SW:GE, the entire land will soak up more guests even if the attractions aren't very high capacity. TL redo in a couple years should also bring on more capacity. So all this will lead to attractions across the board being better able to the crowds and wait times drop, even with FP in-place.
While I won't say the FP system is perfect, and I do think changes are need and will come, it is something guests have come to expect and want. And again its not going anywhere so after 20 years you might as well accept it.
Hope you weren't one of the weirdos I listed
mmelka
Active Member
Our only possible overlap from you report could have been the Mark Twain ride around midday. I was wearing my Mariners hat though, and since you listed the person in a Cubs hat, I think I am safe.
Saw a couple of Mariners hats. One very well could've been yours. Did your Mark Twain cruise have Tiana onboard?
mmelka
Active Member
Ours did not. We also never ventured to the top deck but remained on the second level for some shade. I was also surprised by all of the Ms hats, more surprised when none of them echoed back my “Go Ms!” call.
Ismael Flores
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George Lucas on a Bench
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At DL, people are typically dressed like store mannequins. The butts popping out of shorts is obviously trashy, but trendy and that's DL.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Sharon&Susan
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disneyC97
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dweezil78
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Disney stands to make way more $$$ by having more people on a FP system which frees up time for shopping and dining. The return on higher priced, but less quantity Max/FP would make no business sense.
Sharon&Susan
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Must be Pixar Pier that’s attracting them to the area.I guess gang members over at Magic Mountain have gotten tired of new rides and cleaned up sections of the park and are heading to Disneyland instead. Is there a new Walmart on Harbor somewhere they can go to?
Phroobar
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I wonder if that is actually true. Does Disney really make more money with people waiting for fast pass or is that just a fan theory? I can see popcorn and soda sales going up slightly but shopping and dining? I doubt it especially with a local crowd of APs. I have a feeling that isn't true.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
This is where you and I will agree, I don't think that's true either. Especially since the goal of most local APs appears to be to get as many FPs in a short amount of time and then leave.