Disneyland passholder lawsuit alleges Magic Key deceptively advertises no blockout dates - OCR

AJFireman

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Disneyland passholder lawsuit alleges Magic Key deceptively advertises no blockout dates.

The $5 million suit filed on behalf of all annual passholders alleges Disneyland relegated them to 'second class' ticket holders by artificially limiting Magic Key reservations and the number of passholders that can visit on any given day.

Disneyland deceived its most loyal fans by artificially limiting theme park capacity and blocking passholders with “no blockout” annual passes from making reservations, a lawsuit filed against Walt Disney Parks and Resorts alleges.

The $5 million suit filed on behalf of all annual passholders alleges Disneyland relegated them to “second class” ticket holders by artificially limiting Magic Key reservations and the number of passholders that can visit on any given day.

The case was moved to United States District Court on Wednesday, Dec. 15 because the “matter in controversy exceeds the sum or value of $5 million” and Walt Disney Parks and Resorts is based in Florida while the plaintiff lives in California, according to the court filing.

The complaint was originally filed Nov. 9 in Orange County Superior Court by Magic Key passholder Jenale Nielsen of Santa Clara County. Nielsen’s attorneys are seeking to have the case certified as a class action by the U.S. District Court — a step that has not yet happened.

“We intend to respond as the case proceeds in court,” according to a Disneyland spokesperson.

The new Magic Key annual passes went on sale in late August after Disneyland ended its former four-decade-old annual passholder program in January during the extended coronavirus closures of the Anaheim theme parks.

Disneyland sold out of the top-priced Dream Key in late October amid howls from angry passholders because of the widespread lack of reservations available for the $1,399 pass with no blockout dates. The $949 Believe Key sold out in late November. The $649 Enchant Key and $399 Imagine Key remain available.

Magic Key reservations have been frequently unavailable on weekends and near-term dates stretching for weeks have been completely “sold out” to annual passholders still looking for a reservation. In contrast, the daily admission ticket calendar often shows availability on virtually all weekdays, weekends and holidays — with a few near-term dates “sold out.”

The lawsuit alleges that Nielsen purchased a $1,399 Disneyland Dream Key annual pass with no blockout dates in September, but was unable to make theme park reservations for certain dates in November.

When Nielsen tried to make reservations in October, she was disappointed to learn Disneyland had already blocked out Dream Key passholders on many days and all weekends in November, the suit alleges.

“Given that Disney advertised and promised that there would be no ‘blockouts’ for Dream Keyholders, Ms. Nielsen was surprised,” according to the suit.

As a frequent Disneyland visitor, Nielsen thought it was unlikely so many dates would be sold out in November. She checked the reservation availability calendar for single-day visitors and found out that neither Disneyland or Disney California Adventure were sold out on any days in November.

“The problem was not that Disney had reached its capacity and therefore could not provide reservations to its Dream Key passholders,” according to the suit. “The problem was that Disney had decided to block out reservations so that they were only available to new purchases and were not available to Dream Key passholders.”

Nielsen believed when she bought the Dream Key annual pass that passholders would be allowed to make reservations if Disneyland and DCA had capacity, according to the suit.

“Disney appears to be limiting the number of reservations available to Dream Key passholders on any given day in order to maximize the number of single day and other passes that Disney can sell,” according to the suit.

Nielsen reasonably believed “no blockouts” meant she could use her Dream Key as long as the parks were not at capacity, according to the suit.

“This is a far cry from what Disney advertised to consumers and from what Disney sold to its customers,” the suit said.

Nielsen would not have bought the Dream Key annual pass if she had known so many dates would be unavailable, according to the suit.

“Ms. Nielsen did not know — and had no way of knowing — that the Dream Key was, essentially, a ‘second class’ ticket with limited availability because Disney had reserved an unknown majority of the available reservations for single day or other full price ticket purchases,” the suit said.

Nielsen ultimately had to purchase a single day ticket to go to Disneyland in November even though she was a Dream Key passholder, the suit said.

Disney is engaging in unfair, unlawful and deceptive business practices, the suit contends.

The complaint accuses Disneyland of breach of contract, negligent misrepresentation and false advertising and seeks civil penalties to prevent Disney from engaging in similar unlawful trade practices, restitution based on the harm consumers experienced and repayment of all revenue gained by the practice.

Walt Disney Parks and Resorts has not filed an answer, according to the suit.

Nielsen and her attorneys could not be reached for comment.
 

flynnibus

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Always someone looking for a payday...

It was said all along they were subject to park reservations. Disney didn't make promises on how many reservations would be available or any claims on probability or frequency.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I reread the website and they may have a case, it says based on availability but (unless I missed it) it didn’t specify key holders would have different availability than day guests. That makes the assumption we’d only be blocked out on the rare sold out day a valid argument. It’ll be interesting to see if the courts feel they breached the contract when they started blocking out key holders while still selling day passes. At the very least maybe it’ll cause enough backlash Disney will abandon the Key program and bring back APs... that would be a massive win in my book.
 
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TP2000

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Magic Key seems like a messy response to an even bigger mess that TDA made for itself since 2009. So I chuckled at this news.

That said, I can’t imagine hiring an actual attorney to fight this battle over a theme park annual pass. This seems like someone who is either a nutcase, or someone who has more money than brains. Perhaps a combination of the two.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Magic Key seems like a messy response to an even bigger mess that TDA made for itself since 2009. So I chuckled at this news.

That said, I can’t imagine hiring an actual attorney to fight this battle over a theme park annual pass. This seems like someone who is either a nutcase, or someone who has more money than brains. Perhaps a combination of the two.
Probably a contingency case, won’t cost a penny and if they win the attorneys will take 40% of the money while we all get a nickel.

For the person that filed I doubt it has anything to do with money (other than for the attorneys), it’s an attempt to get APs back.
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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Disneyland passholder lawsuit alleges Magic Key deceptively advertises no blockout dates.

The $5 million suit filed on behalf of all annual passholders alleges Disneyland relegated them to 'second class' ticket holders by artificially limiting Magic Key reservations and the number of passholders that can visit on any given day.

Disneyland deceived its most loyal fans by artificially limiting theme park capacity and blocking passholders with “no blockout” annual passes from making reservations, a lawsuit filed against Walt Disney Parks and Resorts alleges.

The $5 million suit filed on behalf of all annual passholders alleges Disneyland relegated them to “second class” ticket holders by artificially limiting Magic Key reservations and the number of passholders that can visit on any given day.

The case was moved to United States District Court on Wednesday, Dec. 15 because the “matter in controversy exceeds the sum or value of $5 million” and Walt Disney Parks and Resorts is based in Florida while the plaintiff lives in California, according to the court filing.

The complaint was originally filed Nov. 9 in Orange County Superior Court by Magic Key passholder Jenale Nielsen of Santa Clara County. Nielsen’s attorneys are seeking to have the case certified as a class action by the U.S. District Court — a step that has not yet happened.

“We intend to respond as the case proceeds in court,” according to a Disneyland spokesperson.

The new Magic Key annual passes went on sale in late August after Disneyland ended its former four-decade-old annual passholder program in January during the extended coronavirus closures of the Anaheim theme parks.

Disneyland sold out of the top-priced Dream Key in late October amid howls from angry passholders because of the widespread lack of reservations available for the $1,399 pass with no blockout dates. The $949 Believe Key sold out in late November. The $649 Enchant Key and $399 Imagine Key remain available.

Magic Key reservations have been frequently unavailable on weekends and near-term dates stretching for weeks have been completely “sold out” to annual passholders still looking for a reservation. In contrast, the daily admission ticket calendar often shows availability on virtually all weekdays, weekends and holidays — with a few near-term dates “sold out.”

The lawsuit alleges that Nielsen purchased a $1,399 Disneyland Dream Key annual pass with no blockout dates in September, but was unable to make theme park reservations for certain dates in November.

When Nielsen tried to make reservations in October, she was disappointed to learn Disneyland had already blocked out Dream Key passholders on many days and all weekends in November, the suit alleges.

“Given that Disney advertised and promised that there would be no ‘blockouts’ for Dream Keyholders, Ms. Nielsen was surprised,” according to the suit.

As a frequent Disneyland visitor, Nielsen thought it was unlikely so many dates would be sold out in November. She checked the reservation availability calendar for single-day visitors and found out that neither Disneyland or Disney California Adventure were sold out on any days in November.

“The problem was not that Disney had reached its capacity and therefore could not provide reservations to its Dream Key passholders,” according to the suit. “The problem was that Disney had decided to block out reservations so that they were only available to new purchases and were not available to Dream Key passholders.”

Nielsen believed when she bought the Dream Key annual pass that passholders would be allowed to make reservations if Disneyland and DCA had capacity, according to the suit.

“Disney appears to be limiting the number of reservations available to Dream Key passholders on any given day in order to maximize the number of single day and other passes that Disney can sell,” according to the suit.

Nielsen reasonably believed “no blockouts” meant she could use her Dream Key as long as the parks were not at capacity, according to the suit.

“This is a far cry from what Disney advertised to consumers and from what Disney sold to its customers,” the suit said.

Nielsen would not have bought the Dream Key annual pass if she had known so many dates would be unavailable, according to the suit.

“Ms. Nielsen did not know — and had no way of knowing — that the Dream Key was, essentially, a ‘second class’ ticket with limited availability because Disney had reserved an unknown majority of the available reservations for single day or other full price ticket purchases,” the suit said.

Nielsen ultimately had to purchase a single day ticket to go to Disneyland in November even though she was a Dream Key passholder, the suit said.

Disney is engaging in unfair, unlawful and deceptive business practices, the suit contends.

The complaint accuses Disneyland of breach of contract, negligent misrepresentation and false advertising and seeks civil penalties to prevent Disney from engaging in similar unlawful trade practices, restitution based on the harm consumers experienced and repayment of all revenue gained by the practice.

Walt Disney Parks and Resorts has not filed an answer, according to the suit.

Nielsen and her attorneys could not be reached for comment.
Gonna be thrown out. Read the fine print before you purchase.
 

Figments Friend

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Might be a local AP eBay 'flipper' upset that their side business supply stream has dried up.
That might motivate someone a bit if they are heavily involved in that market.

Not 100% sure if it's as bad as in Florida, but the Disney Theme Park merch reselling 'black market' has become obscene over the last few years.
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Bullseye1967

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That’s what I’m thinking too.

I may be retired and lolling about in suburban pseudo luxury, but I’m not quite bored enough (yet) to read the Magic Key fine print. I assume Disney’s lawyers did their job here, and this is a case of an AP Karen without merit.
The fine print doesn't always get you off the hook. Doctrine and precedent in fed law comes down to what a reasonable person would believe. You can't advertise a special on the window of a fast food place and an asterisk that says at select locations if that is not one of the locations. You also can't bury fine print in language or legal language that an average person would not understand.
 

TP2000

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The fine print doesn't always get you off the hook. Doctrine and precedent in fed law comes down to what a reasonable person would believe. You can't advertise a special on the window of a fast food place and an asterisk that says at select locations if that is not one of the locations. You also can't bury fine print in language or legal language that an average person would not understand.

Ah, good points.

I think this will be an interesting case to watch!
 

AJFireman

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Just go through the process of buying a Magic Key on the website. You can go all the way up until it says purchase. There are also multiple places talking about limited availability on the Magic Key information page.

The first page that you view has a warning before you scroll down to find the Magic Key you want.

"Check Access Calendar Before Purchasing
We recommend that you check to see if your desired theme park reservations are currently available before purchasing your Magic Key pass. Please note that reservation availability may change after you view the access calendar, and dates that are available at this time may be unavailable in the future. It is recommended that you make your reservations early as availability can change until the park reservation selection is finalized. Park reservations are limited, subject to availability, may not be available on select holidays or popular dates, and are not guaranteed for any specific date or park."

Under Dream Key which is the persons key they bought it states "Park reservations are subject to availability and are not guaranteed for any specific dates or park" The next screen Order Summary it has a link to Review Important Details and again talks about availability and repeats about limited availabity.

Now I see her argument is if there was Single/Multi Day ticket availability why doesnt her Dream Key have availability. Will see how that one plays out.
 

Disney Analyst

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Just go through the process of buying a Magic Key on the website. You can go all the way up until it says purchase. There are also multiple places talking about limited availability on the Magic Key information page.

The first page that you view has a warning before you scroll down to find the Magic Key you want.

"Check Access Calendar Before Purchasing
We recommend that you check to see if your desired theme park reservations are currently available before purchasing your Magic Key pass. Please note that reservation availability may change after you view the access calendar, and dates that are available at this time may be unavailable in the future. It is recommended that you make your reservations early as availability can change until the park reservation selection is finalized. Park reservations are limited, subject to availability, may not be available on select holidays or popular dates, and are not guaranteed for any specific date or park."

Under Dream Key which is the persons key they bought it states "Park reservations are subject to availability and are not guaranteed for any specific dates or park" The next screen Order Summary it has a link to Review Important Details and again talks about availability and repeats about limited availabity.

Now I see her argument is if there was Single/Multi Day ticket availability why doesnt her Dream Key have availability. Will see how that one plays out.

The fine print isn’t even that fine…
 

AJFireman

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Her name being as unique as it is I did a google search and leads to me a name in Santa Clara where OCRegister says she is from. Also multiple FB post that she visit Disneyland often so she seems to be a veteran of the parks not just a first time passholder. She also has a Linkedin account. So pretty sure this is the right person

I know some of you will have plenty to say about this one but she is a "Communications Manager" at a Pentecostal Church. With that kind of job you would think she would of asked the questions and got the information before purchasing.
 

Professortango1

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At the very least maybe it’ll cause enough backlash Disney will abandon the Key program and bring back APs... that would be a massive win in my book.
Or hopefully just do away with passes as a concept. That is a best case scenario. I'd even settle for one tier of pass at $2,500 per pass, no payment plan, and no blackout/reservations required. Limit them to like 50,000 and you're good.

Disney has nothing to worry about, they say "subject to availability" very clearly. None of these dates were blacked out, they just had all available Key reservations snatched up.
 

el_super

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Or hopefully just do away with passes as a concept. That is a best case scenario.

I can't believe it's only been a couple months and we're right back to arguing about the validity of the AP program.

I hope it goes away, but I don't think it will.

Disney has nothing to worry about, they say "subject to availability" very clearly. None of these dates were blacked out, they just had all available Key reservations snatched up.

I understand her frustration, and I certainly still think that Disney was misrepresenting the passes, but yeah, I don't know how that will play out in court. If pressed to ask if certain specific dates were available, Disney would be able to say they were. If any Dream Key holder was able to access the park on that date, is it really fair to say the pass was blocked out?

If the court does end up thinking that capacity should be the hard set limit of how many people could be in the park (that would be hilarious if that's actually brought up in discovery), and that the APs have to share the same pool of reservations as everyone else, it will be interesting to see how Disney reacts. Either AP Magic Key prices will have to go up considerably or they will abandon the program all over again.
 

Disstevefan1

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Disneyland passholder lawsuit alleges Magic Key deceptively advertises no blockout dates.

The $5 million suit filed on behalf of all annual passholders alleges Disneyland relegated them to 'second class' ticket holders by artificially limiting Magic Key reservations and the number of passholders that can visit on any given day.

Disneyland deceived its most loyal fans by artificially limiting theme park capacity and blocking passholders with “no blockout” annual passes from making reservations, a lawsuit filed against Walt Disney Parks and Resorts alleges.

The $5 million suit filed on behalf of all annual passholders alleges Disneyland relegated them to “second class” ticket holders by artificially limiting Magic Key reservations and the number of passholders that can visit on any given day.

The case was moved to United States District Court on Wednesday, Dec. 15 because the “matter in controversy exceeds the sum or value of $5 million” and Walt Disney Parks and Resorts is based in Florida while the plaintiff lives in California, according to the court filing.

The complaint was originally filed Nov. 9 in Orange County Superior Court by Magic Key passholder Jenale Nielsen of Santa Clara County. Nielsen’s attorneys are seeking to have the case certified as a class action by the U.S. District Court — a step that has not yet happened.

“We intend to respond as the case proceeds in court,” according to a Disneyland spokesperson.

The new Magic Key annual passes went on sale in late August after Disneyland ended its former four-decade-old annual passholder program in January during the extended coronavirus closures of the Anaheim theme parks.

Disneyland sold out of the top-priced Dream Key in late October amid howls from angry passholders because of the widespread lack of reservations available for the $1,399 pass with no blockout dates. The $949 Believe Key sold out in late November. The $649 Enchant Key and $399 Imagine Key remain available.

Magic Key reservations have been frequently unavailable on weekends and near-term dates stretching for weeks have been completely “sold out” to annual passholders still looking for a reservation. In contrast, the daily admission ticket calendar often shows availability on virtually all weekdays, weekends and holidays — with a few near-term dates “sold out.”

The lawsuit alleges that Nielsen purchased a $1,399 Disneyland Dream Key annual pass with no blockout dates in September, but was unable to make theme park reservations for certain dates in November.

When Nielsen tried to make reservations in October, she was disappointed to learn Disneyland had already blocked out Dream Key passholders on many days and all weekends in November, the suit alleges.

“Given that Disney advertised and promised that there would be no ‘blockouts’ for Dream Keyholders, Ms. Nielsen was surprised,” according to the suit.

As a frequent Disneyland visitor, Nielsen thought it was unlikely so many dates would be sold out in November. She checked the reservation availability calendar for single-day visitors and found out that neither Disneyland or Disney California Adventure were sold out on any days in November.

“The problem was not that Disney had reached its capacity and therefore could not provide reservations to its Dream Key passholders,” according to the suit. “The problem was that Disney had decided to block out reservations so that they were only available to new purchases and were not available to Dream Key passholders.”

Nielsen believed when she bought the Dream Key annual pass that passholders would be allowed to make reservations if Disneyland and DCA had capacity, according to the suit.

“Disney appears to be limiting the number of reservations available to Dream Key passholders on any given day in order to maximize the number of single day and other passes that Disney can sell,” according to the suit.

Nielsen reasonably believed “no blockouts” meant she could use her Dream Key as long as the parks were not at capacity, according to the suit.

“This is a far cry from what Disney advertised to consumers and from what Disney sold to its customers,” the suit said.

Nielsen would not have bought the Dream Key annual pass if she had known so many dates would be unavailable, according to the suit.

“Ms. Nielsen did not know — and had no way of knowing — that the Dream Key was, essentially, a ‘second class’ ticket with limited availability because Disney had reserved an unknown majority of the available reservations for single day or other full price ticket purchases,” the suit said.

Nielsen ultimately had to purchase a single day ticket to go to Disneyland in November even though she was a Dream Key passholder, the suit said.

Disney is engaging in unfair, unlawful and deceptive business practices, the suit contends.

The complaint accuses Disneyland of breach of contract, negligent misrepresentation and false advertising and seeks civil penalties to prevent Disney from engaging in similar unlawful trade practices, restitution based on the harm consumers experienced and repayment of all revenue gained by the practice.

Walt Disney Parks and Resorts has not filed an answer, according to the suit.

Nielsen and her attorneys could not be reached for comment.
Ms. Nielsen will never win, but I love to see her doing it!!!!!! This is exactly how everyone feels about the top tier “no blackouts“ tickets!
 

SoCalDisneyLover

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Or hopefully just do away with passes as a concept. That is a best case scenario. I'd even settle for one tier of pass at $2,500 per pass, no payment plan, and no blackout/reservations required. Limit them to like 50,000 and you're good.

Disney has nothing to worry about, they say "subject to availability" very clearly. None of these dates were blacked out, they just had all available Key reservations snatched up.
This will Never happen, unless Disney were to substantially lower their daily ticket prices. There are a limited amount of people who would be willing to pay $150+/day to visit the parks, and they would be half empty in all but the busy times of year such as July, August, October & December. That might have worked coming out of a 1 year closure, but it won't work on a regular basis going forward, where people have choices on how to spend their money for social activities. And fewer people visiting the parks means not only less ticket revenue, but also lower revenue from parking, food & merch.
 

CaptinEO

Well-Known Member
Based on the wording it does not mention park availability is capped differently for AP Holders vs Ticket Holders.

There very well could be a case here. I'm no legal expert but it is misleading to say the park has no availability, but people with tickets or different tiers of pass can still get it. This was never explicitly stated.
 

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