Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames

SuddenStorm

SuddenStorm

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TP2000 said:
Yes. This is a baffling decision, especially after a closure lasting more than a year.

This is the weakest version of Fantasmic! they've ever had. And it was closed for a year to get that?

This seems to be a glaring problem with the current leadership at the Parks. They just don't care.
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What I find amusing is that all of the positive changes here were just going back to how it was prior to the 2017 version of the show.
 
Starship824

Starship824

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In the Parks
No
This feels like Fantasmic 1.7. A lot less color. It seems they didn't really fix any of the narrative problems of Fantasmic 2.0 and honestly I think this is worse than Fantasmic 2.0 with the exception of having Peter Pan back. The music in the new maleficent fight is just not done well. I don't understand why they brought back Peter Pan and the original exit and didn't bring back the original 92 soundtrack. It also looked like there were less characters on the mark twain than before. I understand the flying carpet and the dragon not being there but they could have plussed the show in other areas like having more characters on the Mark Twain and upgrading the projection effects and things like that and they just didn't. And the final is way worse now. With the exception of Peter Pan and the Mark Twain, I think it's safe to say Hollywood studios has the better Fantasmic right now.
 
gerarar

gerarar

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Also didn’t noticed it at first, but only 24 characters on the Mark Twain?! It should be around 30-33 if we’re going by 2017/2022 standards.

Top deck was missing Mad Hatter, White Rabbit, and Alice.
Lower deck was missing Pluto, Chip and Dale, Pooh.
Rear was missing toy soldiers and Jessie.

Very sad if this is a permanent reduction.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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gerarar said:
Also didn’t noticed it at first, but only 24 characters on the Mark Twain?! It should be around 30-33 if we’re going by 2017/2022 standards.

Top deck was missing Mad Hatter, White Rabbit, and Alice.
Lower deck was missing Pluto, Chip and Dale, Pooh.
Rear was missing toy soldiers and Jessie.

Very sad if this is a permanent reduction.
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They used to have Chimney Sweeps up on the roof of the top deck too. They're now missing in action.
 
TheCoasterNerd

TheCoasterNerd

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In the Parks
No
gerarar

gerarar

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TP2000 said:
They used to have Chimney Sweeps up on the roof of the top deck too. They're now missing in action.
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They were “kicked” off the boat after the 2017 2.0 update sadly. Because of this the Mark Twain has less characters on it than the counterpart at WDW, despite the larger boat with more room to play with.

Made a whole comparison here with numbers/data lol:
gerarar said:
Once upon a time, the Mark Twain would contain more characters on the boat in the finale than WDW. After 2.0 debuted in 2017, the number of characters was cut (mainly the top deck containing the miners from Peter Pan segment).

Now WDW has more characters on their smaller Steamboat Willie Riverboat, which consistently has 35 characters twirling and dancing, while DL hovers somewhere between 30-33 characters (sometimes even less) depending on who's available/calls in.

No excuse that DL with the much larger boat shouldn't have more characters in theirs for the grand finale. It's all very ironic.
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TheCoasterNerd

TheCoasterNerd

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I loved the show. Peter Pan returning is amazing, I liked if not loved the new villains scene, I just wish it returned with the dragon instead of it returning later. Idk man I'm just happy it's back at all, it wouldn't have surprised me if TDA decided to just scrap the show altogether
 
waltography

waltography

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Currently watching now, updating this as I go:
  • Did they cut Mickey's choreo in the intro? Why is he moving without any purpose anymore, are they embarrassed for him to have choreo?
  • The whole Jungle Book section felt messy. Flower should've left after Lion King.
  • So good to have Peter Pan back. That transition into Princesses is rough.
  • I sure hope the magic carpet being gone is just an Opening Day snafu and that's also not a B-mode casualty.
  • I don't remember the Old Hag's silhouette being cast onto the mist screen but I love that effect regardless.
  • The fight scene being cut short is probably for the best, but it does throw the pacing quite a bit. Mickey's direction is as aimless as ever, which is just baffling. Otherwise, I like the B+ mode pyro work (though I'm concerned over the pyro being directed at the Mali actor, that feels like another Murphy waiting to happen).
  • The Mark Twain looking that empty is so embarrassing. At the very least, every single window in the bottom floor should be filled with a character.
  • I'm happy the finale fireworks are back in time with the music.
I guess I'm glad Fantasmic is back, but in this state it's just really sad. It makes me wonder what the timeline was to ramp this show back up, because between the dance competition-level soundtrack mixing and several messy points it feels like the effort of a few weeks rather than the year it was down.
 
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wtyy21

wtyy21

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TheCoasterNerd said:
I loved the show. Peter Pan returning is amazing, I liked if not loved the new villains scene, I just wish it returned with the dragon instead of it returning later. Idk man I'm just happy it's back at all, it wouldn't have surprised me if TDA decided to just scrap the show altogether
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I rather excited to see whether Disney Experiences management will announce the return of the dragon at two big D23 events: in Anaheim this August, and in Brazil this November. These big D23 events i think would be served as opportunity to announce the new dragon replacement of Murphy at either one of two big D23 events.
 
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MoonRakerSCM

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Looks like the Columbia broke down?

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TP2000

TP2000

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Okay, I've watched a couple other videos of tonight's debut now, and made one (1) more French 75, and I now realize...

This isn't good enough. This show does not meet, much less even begin to exceed, longtime Disney standards for major theme park entertainment. It's too sparsely populated. Too much screens, not enough action. Not enough boats and interactivity happening on the river. Not even an attempt to tap into new technology like aerial drones, robotics, laser imaging, etc.

Just because Disney's recent water spectaculars have been mediocre at best, to hilariously awful at worst; KiteTails, Rivers of Light, Harmonious, etc. does NOT mean that they can keep getting away with this crap level of performance and showmanship.

If anything, the recent failures at nighttime entertainment (aside from just abandoning it entirely like MSEP, Paint The Night, etc.) should have guided them to expect more and deliver more for Disneyland's Fantasmic!.

They failed at their jobs here. And it took them over a year to reach that level of failure? This isn't good enough.
 

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