Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Based on what? Seems pretty premature

I agree, things fail, there’s no way to prevent that 100%. They could have put a brand new hydraulic hose on yesterday that had an unseen production defect that caused the whole thing.

Some things are preventable, others aren’t, I doubt we’ll ever know if this could have been prevented because the cause likely burned up in the fire.

 

[Brian]

Anyone know if Cal OSHA would investigate a fire of this magnitude? Since no one was seriously injured it doesn’t seem to meet the basic reporting requirements.

It all depends on how the six people taken to the hospital for smoke inhalation fare. If they are not admitted, or are admitted only for observation or testing purposes, it is not CalOSHA reportable.

 

[flynnibus]

It all depends on how the six people taken to the hospital for smoke inhalation fare. If they are not admitted, or are admitted only for observation or testing purposes, it is not CalOSHA reportable.

I thought i read the six were all offered treatment onsite and none were taken to the hospital

 

[Brian]

I thought i read the six were all offered treatment onsite and none were taken to the hospital

My mistake. I misspoke about them being taken to the hospital.

In that case, CalOSHA should not be involved.

 

[TP2000]

Anyone know if Cal OSHA would investigate a fire of this magnitude? Since no one was seriously injured it doesn’t seem to meet the basic reporting requirements.

I think you'd need a documented injury for Cal OSHA to get involved.

I read a couple CM's were sent to the hospital for routine checkups after smoke inhalation, but I doubt that crosses the threshold of "injury" in this case. It's likely more an issue of HR and Legal departments covering their behinds.

I had plenty of smoke inhalation at parties and restaurants and airplanes and discotheques-au-go-go in the 60's, 70's and 80's, and I'm still healthy as a horse and posting almost daily. Much to the chagrin of several folks here.

Don't forget, Parliament has the filter that's IN!

 

[Macro]

The last flame Maleficent shoots from her mouth to ‘light’ the water on fire was not a full flame and was not at full strength.
It was mostly just spray, with a weakened small fire ball.
Not the norm.

Keep in mind that Murphy's main flame ignites a cloud of non-dairy creamer. Compressed air blows outward filled with the same stuff you put in your coffee. Then an igniter lights it which starts at the mouth and burns downward quickly through the cloud.

At least that's what the original Murphy used and the recent video looks like that's still the technique they use. Not all fire effects are the standard flamethrower stuff you see on World of Color. Some of the cool fireballs use fine powder blown into a cloud and then ignited. It's a pretty common technique.

In this case the igniter may have lit it a little late or maybe the wind was blowing and it didn't burn as well as usual. But looking at the video it looks like they still use the ol' Cremora fireball trick.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

It was contained kinda by default more than their action by the looks of it

By the time any response is out there there’s nothing to save. Just let it burn out.

Some might call that by design rather than by default . . .

 

[shambolicdefending]

Oh, man. I feel foolish for not seeing this coming.

The merchandising folks are going to be able to turn this into a bonanza.

 

[flynnibus]

Some might call that by design rather than by default . . .

Until the wind defeats the ‘design’ - and the anaheim fd coming over by boat is too late.

Besides… we know the stage placement of the dragon predates the fire breathing murphy… so I don’t think someone gets to claim this placement was by design for it’s fire safety plan

 

[lazyboy97o]

Until the wind defeats the ‘design’ - and the anaheim fd coming over by boat is too late.

Besides… we know the stage placement of the dragon predates the fire breathing murphy… so I don’t think someone gets to claim this placement was by design for it’s fire safety plan

Containment is very much part of life safety plans for theaters. And changing out a figure doesn’t mean the situation isn’t reviewed.

 

[flynnibus]

Containment is very much part of life safety plans for theaters. And changing out a figure doesn’t mean the situation isn’t reviewed.

The dragon's placement was for other reasons -- like those BIG PITS

The arrangement of the stage pre-dates the fire safety need.

So 'happy benefit' vs 'built this way because..'

 

[RescueTheDay]

Incorrect. Show will remain dark.

 

[shambolicdefending]

Are TSI and all the other river attractions still closed?

 

[VJ]

Chile, these jokes ain’t hittin.’ At all.

honestly all of the jokes and memes and "haha be there when the night ignites!! that was the slogan in 1992!! i'm so funny!!" people are just... insensitive to me. yes, no one died or was injured, but it was still traumatic for the CMs involved and making a joke out of it feels like the wrong thing to do

 

[Figments Friend]

Best ‘internet meme joke’ I have seen thus far that actually made me laugh in a good hearted way was a photo of the finale scene from ‘Carousel of Progress’.
A Photoshopped image of the post-show smoking dragon was in the open microwave oven.
Yes, someone did that…..

-

 

[Californian Elitist]

honestly all of the jokes and memes and "haha be there when the night ignites!! that was the slogan in 1992!! i'm so funny!!" people are just... insensitive to me. yes, no one died or was injured, but it was still traumatic for the CMs involved and making a joke out of it feels like the wrong thing to do

Exactly. I don’t find the jokes funny at all. This isn’t something to be laughing at, at least not right now.

 

[truecoat]

Keep in mind that Murphy's main flame ignites a cloud of non-dairy creamer. Compressed air blows outward filled with the same stuff you put in your coffee. Then an igniter lights it which starts at the mouth and burns downward quickly through the cloud.

At least that's what the original Murphy used and the recent video looks like that's still the technique they use. Not all fire effects are the standard flamethrower stuff you see on World of Color. Some of the cool fireballs use fine powder blown into a cloud and then ignited. It's a pretty common technique.

In this case the igniter may have lit it a little late or maybe the wind was blowing and it didn't burn as well as usual. But looking at the video it looks like they still use the ol' Cremora fireball trick.

Lol, does that bring back a memory. When I was in high school, I worked at a fast-food taco place. The guy that did the prep in the morning asked me if I want to see something cool. He takes 4 packets of creamer and puts them in a cup, turns on the burner in the back, and throws them over and it makes a huge fireball. I was astounded at how much flame came out of those creamer packs!

 

[truecoat]

Incorrect. Show will remain dark.

It would be an easy way to save money this year.

We can't run Fantasmic, the dragon burned!

 

[lazyboy97o]

The dragon's placement was for other reasons -- like those BIG PITS

The arrangement of the stage pre-dates the fire safety need.

So 'happy benefit' vs 'built this way because..'

Stages and their pits and lifts are required to have additional protections provided. So while not necessarily designed around a specific use case, the base requirements assume a higher hazard.

 

[jrhwdw]

Saw on Twitter that F! Might be back this weekend?????