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Disneyland Croatia Resort (Open Brainstorming)
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I could rename Critter Country "Animal Kingdom," and I have decided to keep the name "Big Thunder Mountain Railroad," but I rethemed the ride to the Pacific Northwest. I can also include the attractions that both teams in Imagineer created for Project 7. I am currently brainstorming for Mickey's Toontown. I have also decided on adding an overhead train to Main Street USA.
What do you think?
figmntal95
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How does Dinosaur correlate with Splash Mountain?
MANEATINGWREATH
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/\ It doesn't really, they can work in the same park but they need to be separated from each other and put into different lands. Imagine how weird it would be visiting the cartoon world of animals then suddenly be menaced by a life-like prehistoric monster.
This is how "Animal Kingdom/Critter Country" would feel like and look like.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/05/theme_parks/image/splashmountain.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/merwea/SplashMountain.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_h5dtIEczaKk/R-xemZeI6uI/AAAAAAAAAB4/dMM_gk_0uSQ/s320/dinosaur.jpg
http://www.intercot.com/themeparks/animalkingdom/images/photos/countdown.gif
http://www.pbol.com/pechter/disney/disney_ak98/images/large/disani16.jpg
http://land.allears.net/blogs/photoblog/Canada_pavilion_in_Epcot.jpg
http://www.whimsicalworldtravel.com...2009/09/epcot.victoriagardens.susanspidle.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/1659123.jpg
http://adisneyworldsports.disney.go.com/media/dwws_v0220/en_US/pdf/NemoandFriends.jpg
http://davelandweb.com/indianvillage/images/50s/KTPBKYC_9_2_59_N13B.jpg
http://www.jtcent.com/disneyland/critter/images/crioutmsc1.jpg
Now picture all of that stuff overlooking this:
http://ocresort.freedomblogging.com/files/2009/12/islandandriver-300x251.jpg
How does that look to you guys, does that look like an Animal Kingdom?
This is how "Animal Kingdom/Critter Country" would feel like and look like.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/05/theme_parks/image/splashmountain.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/merwea/SplashMountain.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_h5dtIEczaKk/R-xemZeI6uI/AAAAAAAAAB4/dMM_gk_0uSQ/s320/dinosaur.jpg
http://www.intercot.com/themeparks/animalkingdom/images/photos/countdown.gif
http://www.pbol.com/pechter/disney/disney_ak98/images/large/disani16.jpg
http://land.allears.net/blogs/photoblog/Canada_pavilion_in_Epcot.jpg
http://www.whimsicalworldtravel.com...2009/09/epcot.victoriagardens.susanspidle.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/1659123.jpg
http://adisneyworldsports.disney.go.com/media/dwws_v0220/en_US/pdf/NemoandFriends.jpg
http://davelandweb.com/indianvillage/images/50s/KTPBKYC_9_2_59_N13B.jpg
http://www.jtcent.com/disneyland/critter/images/crioutmsc1.jpg
Now picture all of that stuff overlooking this:
http://ocresort.freedomblogging.com/files/2009/12/islandandriver-300x251.jpg
How does that look to you guys, does that look like an Animal Kingdom?
figmntal95
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figmntal95
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Yes, it does look like an Animal Kingdom.
With Splash Mountain, Dinosaur, Canoes, and Nemo? How?
adv.bluedude
Active Member
I think u guys should just give up on trying to tell him what's wrong with the consistency of his park. He obviously isnt getting it
figmntal95
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Crazy Harry
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Just a few friendly point I would like to make :wave:
I really agree with everyone else about your critter country. Yes, critter loosely means animal and all of those attractions are centered around animals. However, you should consider the other elements of those attractions in terms of theming. The current critter country areas have a western/wilderness/cottage feel to theme. It will be impossible to utilize these facade types with attractions about nemo and dinosaurs. Even if you were to change the type of facade you use for buildings in this area, how could you do it in a way that would make sense with the attractions you are including. The buildings should be simular in some way. How would a cottage type building look by a building that looks like a museum (dinosaur). How do Australia and the ocean, Canada, time travel, and the wilderness with talking animals relate to one another? That would be like justifying putting the hall of presidents and dinosaurs in the same area because they are both about the past.
These attractions also have very different tones. Dinosaur is very life like and serious where as nemo and pooh are very imaginary and playful. This would be like having the tower of terror next to it's a small world.
And how does O' Canada fit with everything else? Again the tone is very different from the other attractions you are proposing. And correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think O Canada is about animals even if it contains them. Now, if you did a brother bear attraction (which takes place in Canadian wilderness) which is about the animal/human connection, that would be much more approprate for this area
I also do not feel that midway mania belongs in fronteirland. If you were to make your own version that focused on woodie and had a purely cowboy theme, that would be more appropriate. As it stand, midways and talking potatoes have nothing to do with the wild west. Again I say, consider ALL of the elements of an attraction and not just one.
More to come...
Please do not blow me up!
adv.bluedude
Active Member
What?
mewhunter67
Member
the previous guy has a switch for an explosive in his avatar, as if he's about to press it...
(he looks like a muppet too) so, kermit here being logical in his reasoning...
Crazy Harry
Active Member
I really didn't too many other pressing issues about this park. I would have liked to see some more original ideas rather than a mostly cut and paste job.
I'm wondering if something should be done with Maelstrom. Norway technically would fit if you are going with a European village type land, but don't forget that Maelstrom in its current form is slightly more of a cultural attraction (includes such things as an oil rig). I'm wondering if you picked a specific story from Norwegian foklore about trolls that this might fit better
OR
I do not know what kind of mythology Croatian might have, but you could do a ride about Croatian mythology instead, and include it in a Croatian mini land with meet the world (maybe a new name to be more original) and that seas attraction and locate this land between fantasyland and tomorrowland.
I'm wondering if something should be done with Maelstrom. Norway technically would fit if you are going with a European village type land, but don't forget that Maelstrom in its current form is slightly more of a cultural attraction (includes such things as an oil rig). I'm wondering if you picked a specific story from Norwegian foklore about trolls that this might fit better
OR
I do not know what kind of mythology Croatian might have, but you could do a ride about Croatian mythology instead, and include it in a Croatian mini land with meet the world (maybe a new name to be more original) and that seas attraction and locate this land between fantasyland and tomorrowland.
Crazy Harry
Active Member
Yes, it does look like an Animal Kingdom.
But the reason Animal Kingdom works is because it is a large park where the different attractions are separated and not all lumped together.
MANEATINGWREATH
Well-Known Member
What if you eliminated the land, moved Splash Mountain and the Indian War Canoes to Wild Westernland, put Countdown to Extinction in Tomorrowland, and moved the other attractions to the second park or something?
It seems that you just throw stuff together, and HOPE it might go together. (Sorry to say) I think yu have good ideas, butyou cloud them too much with an over poplation of attractions (most of which dont fit)
Why not try and think of your own ideas? Just saying.
As said before, it seems that sme ideas, like the Seas with Nemo and Friends, O Canada and CTX fit in. Yes they are "animals"but they arent "critters", Dinosaurs are scaled reptiles, Fish are well fish, and O Canada just kinda fits in... Sorry to say.
Im just tellling you what i think
Are you saying that critters have to be small and furry?
Crazy Harry
Active Member
I think the points I made earlier express quite well why these rides do not go together, but you chose not to respond to those points. If you think we are wrong, feel free to continue to debate us, but give good reasons why we are wrong. I've noticed you have been a little defensive, which I don't blame you for, but don't be so defensive that you push away legitimate ideas. After all, you said this was an open brainstorming thread, so brainstorm with us. I like a lot of your ideas, but you do need some help which I suspect is why you opened an open brainstorming thread. So no offense, we are just trying to help.
CTX may also fit in fronteir land, and I can explain what my idea is for this if you want...
MANEATINGWREATH
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Yes Kermit, please defend your ideas in more detail. We all want to help you, and we all want to know what you're thinking so we CAN help you. Obviously not many of us agree with your ideas, we just want to hear what makes you agree with them. Like Crazy Harry said, please debate your beliefs about this resort with us with some good reasons.
Also critters are defined as "creatures," yes...but when you think of the word "critter" you don't think of dinosaurs, fish, or the Canadian wilderness. You usually think of the animals that one would find on such attractions as Splash Mountain or the Country Bear Jamboree, not Countdown to Extinction or the Seas with Nemo and Friends. The other part that we're disagreeing with you about on Critter Country/Animal Kingdom is that thematically it wouldn't work. Sure if it's themed to animals it would be one bizarre land. First of all it's located on the side of the Rivers of America which doesn't make any sense at all as two of the attractions don't even take place in America. Splash Mountain takes place in the post-war American South, so that makes sense. Countdown to Extinction takes place in the far-off future and is really undetermined in exact location. I guess it is in America though because in a way it's home of origin was "Dinoland, U.S.A." The Seas with Nemo and Friends obviously takes place in Australia, and last time I checked that is nowhere near the American frontier. O, Canada is technically in North America but not the United States of America. The Indian War Canoes I can understand so I'll leave those alone.
But basically picture yourself riding on top of the old riverboat. You look at all the Frontierland beauty then turn and see the beginnings of Critter Country. You see Splash Mountain and really think, "Wow this really is the frontier." But then suddenly the plant-life becomes all tropical and turns into a mesh between Future World and a State Museum. A dinosaur statue and a bunch of animatronic seagulls screeching "MINE" appear out of nowhere. Then the North American wilderness comes back but rather than being the wilderness of the American frontier, it's the wilderness of the Canadian frontier! And then London suddenly appears with Winnie the Pooh and Tigger too! As your boat leaves you turn around and think...huh?
Really it kind of just seems like you wanted those attractions in the park and just wanted to put them in somewhere, so you chose Critter Country. But the only ones that really fit in Critter Country are Splash Mountain and the Canoes. And I think you had Pooh's Hunny Hunt in there too, so I'll give you that one as well, as Disneyland made the unfortunate move of replacing the Country Bears with the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
But the rest of them don't fit in at all...O, Canada is just wilderness-esque which would fit in with Critter Country if it was themed to something revolving around critters. So why don't you take the concept of O, Canada and turn it into something that's not about Canada. Something that fits in with the cartoonish-wilderness theme of Critter Country and turn it into something entirely different! You could do a lot with this, I know you can. As for the Seas with Nemo and Friends. Why don't you move that to a possible future second park? Or you can get rid of that particular attraction and create an entire new land beyond the berm of the park that is themed to underwater creatures. It could be a land that appears to be underwater but isn't, and it can have attractions from Finding Nemo, the Little Mermaid, and pretty much any other ocean-themed Disney movie out there. That may seem like a mesh-up of ideas, but really they work together because they're all in a land that would be able to make them work together. For Countdown to Extinction, if you really want that move it to Tomorrowland or just get rid of it all together. If you have an Indiana Jones ride already in the park, then it may clash with a very similar attraction. Not saying Indy has ever discovered dinosaurs before, it's just they have the same attraction vehicles (With different paint jobs) and they follow the EXACT SAME TRACK. I'm not even joking you, many people don't know that Countdown to Extinction (DINOSAUR) follows the same track layout as Indiana Jones Adventure in Disneyland in California and Tokyo DisneySea. After the failure remodeling of Tomorrowland back in 1998 or so, Disney found that it wasn't successful as they would have liked it to be (It was supposed to be the fabled "Tomorrowland 2055") so they started looking for ways to fix it up a bit. The first thing they wanted to do was bring some new life into the Primeval World diorama and get rid of Honey, I Shrunk the Audience which had just opened with the recent changes. They then came up with the idea of gutting the theater and turning it into the Dino Institute of California, being the extensive queue for a brand new version of Countdown to Extinction. The show building would have been beneath Space Mountain, called for the gutting of a storage building, stretched out a bit into the parade garage behind Main Street, and into the Primeval World Diorama. Passing trains would be able to see the time rovers filled with happy (And not-so-happy) guests rolling around the dinosaur-inhabited landscape as they attempt to make it home in time before an oncoming asteroid hits. The painted backdrop would be removed and an entire three dimensional jungle would be added, making the Primeval World darker (It would be dark, so think riding a train inside the Knott's Berry Farm Log Ride with dinosaurs in it), bigger, more realistic, and more exciting! The trains presence would be justified by a bunch of time traveling gear left carelessly along the edge of the Grand Canyon. The train would set off the machinery and cause them to go temporarily back in time to the age of dinosaurs. So Countdown to Extinction could work in Tomorrowland, but not in Critter Country.
Now I like you Kermit, you're a nice guy and a friend, and don't think of me or anyone else as a horrible bully, I'm just giving you my input and trying to help you out here.
None of your ideas are bad, they are good, we're just trying to help you out over here. When I created one of the very first open brainstorming threads back in 2008 over on Visions Fantastic (Disneyland Australia), I made it with the intention of bringing a bunch of Imagineers together to create one killer theme park/resort. I wanted to share a few of my ideas then have them come in and give me their input and share some of their own ideas. Then I would give them my input and they would give me their input, and so on so forth. By sometime last year (2009) we had an almost complete resort which had gone through what seemed to be multiple-changes. We started out with something pretty awesome, then turned it into something REALLY awesome by moving attractions to other parks, deleting things we didn't think that fit in too well with their surroundings, and even starting from scratch on some lands. And that is why there are have been so many open brainstorming threads to follow. The point of an open brainstorming thread is so that you and many others can come together and make one amazing project. Everyone on WDWMagic is a brilliant Imagineer and if we ALL got together to make one resort, I can only imagine what would come out of it. :animwink:
So please Kermit we're just trying to brainstorm with you, please share with us all of your thoughts on our questions. :animwink:
Also critters are defined as "creatures," yes...but when you think of the word "critter" you don't think of dinosaurs, fish, or the Canadian wilderness. You usually think of the animals that one would find on such attractions as Splash Mountain or the Country Bear Jamboree, not Countdown to Extinction or the Seas with Nemo and Friends. The other part that we're disagreeing with you about on Critter Country/Animal Kingdom is that thematically it wouldn't work. Sure if it's themed to animals it would be one bizarre land. First of all it's located on the side of the Rivers of America which doesn't make any sense at all as two of the attractions don't even take place in America. Splash Mountain takes place in the post-war American South, so that makes sense. Countdown to Extinction takes place in the far-off future and is really undetermined in exact location. I guess it is in America though because in a way it's home of origin was "Dinoland, U.S.A." The Seas with Nemo and Friends obviously takes place in Australia, and last time I checked that is nowhere near the American frontier. O, Canada is technically in North America but not the United States of America. The Indian War Canoes I can understand so I'll leave those alone.
But basically picture yourself riding on top of the old riverboat. You look at all the Frontierland beauty then turn and see the beginnings of Critter Country. You see Splash Mountain and really think, "Wow this really is the frontier." But then suddenly the plant-life becomes all tropical and turns into a mesh between Future World and a State Museum. A dinosaur statue and a bunch of animatronic seagulls screeching "MINE" appear out of nowhere. Then the North American wilderness comes back but rather than being the wilderness of the American frontier, it's the wilderness of the Canadian frontier! And then London suddenly appears with Winnie the Pooh and Tigger too! As your boat leaves you turn around and think...huh?
Really it kind of just seems like you wanted those attractions in the park and just wanted to put them in somewhere, so you chose Critter Country. But the only ones that really fit in Critter Country are Splash Mountain and the Canoes. And I think you had Pooh's Hunny Hunt in there too, so I'll give you that one as well, as Disneyland made the unfortunate move of replacing the Country Bears with the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
But the rest of them don't fit in at all...O, Canada is just wilderness-esque which would fit in with Critter Country if it was themed to something revolving around critters. So why don't you take the concept of O, Canada and turn it into something that's not about Canada. Something that fits in with the cartoonish-wilderness theme of Critter Country and turn it into something entirely different! You could do a lot with this, I know you can. As for the Seas with Nemo and Friends. Why don't you move that to a possible future second park? Or you can get rid of that particular attraction and create an entire new land beyond the berm of the park that is themed to underwater creatures. It could be a land that appears to be underwater but isn't, and it can have attractions from Finding Nemo, the Little Mermaid, and pretty much any other ocean-themed Disney movie out there. That may seem like a mesh-up of ideas, but really they work together because they're all in a land that would be able to make them work together. For Countdown to Extinction, if you really want that move it to Tomorrowland or just get rid of it all together. If you have an Indiana Jones ride already in the park, then it may clash with a very similar attraction. Not saying Indy has ever discovered dinosaurs before, it's just they have the same attraction vehicles (With different paint jobs) and they follow the EXACT SAME TRACK. I'm not even joking you, many people don't know that Countdown to Extinction (DINOSAUR) follows the same track layout as Indiana Jones Adventure in Disneyland in California and Tokyo DisneySea. After the failure remodeling of Tomorrowland back in 1998 or so, Disney found that it wasn't successful as they would have liked it to be (It was supposed to be the fabled "Tomorrowland 2055") so they started looking for ways to fix it up a bit. The first thing they wanted to do was bring some new life into the Primeval World diorama and get rid of Honey, I Shrunk the Audience which had just opened with the recent changes. They then came up with the idea of gutting the theater and turning it into the Dino Institute of California, being the extensive queue for a brand new version of Countdown to Extinction. The show building would have been beneath Space Mountain, called for the gutting of a storage building, stretched out a bit into the parade garage behind Main Street, and into the Primeval World Diorama. Passing trains would be able to see the time rovers filled with happy (And not-so-happy) guests rolling around the dinosaur-inhabited landscape as they attempt to make it home in time before an oncoming asteroid hits. The painted backdrop would be removed and an entire three dimensional jungle would be added, making the Primeval World darker (It would be dark, so think riding a train inside the Knott's Berry Farm Log Ride with dinosaurs in it), bigger, more realistic, and more exciting! The trains presence would be justified by a bunch of time traveling gear left carelessly along the edge of the Grand Canyon. The train would set off the machinery and cause them to go temporarily back in time to the age of dinosaurs. So Countdown to Extinction could work in Tomorrowland, but not in Critter Country.
Now I like you Kermit, you're a nice guy and a friend, and don't think of me or anyone else as a horrible bully, I'm just giving you my input and trying to help you out here.
None of your ideas are bad, they are good, we're just trying to help you out over here. When I created one of the very first open brainstorming threads back in 2008 over on Visions Fantastic (Disneyland Australia), I made it with the intention of bringing a bunch of Imagineers together to create one killer theme park/resort. I wanted to share a few of my ideas then have them come in and give me their input and share some of their own ideas. Then I would give them my input and they would give me their input, and so on so forth. By sometime last year (2009) we had an almost complete resort which had gone through what seemed to be multiple-changes. We started out with something pretty awesome, then turned it into something REALLY awesome by moving attractions to other parks, deleting things we didn't think that fit in too well with their surroundings, and even starting from scratch on some lands. And that is why there are have been so many open brainstorming threads to follow. The point of an open brainstorming thread is so that you and many others can come together and make one amazing project. Everyone on WDWMagic is a brilliant Imagineer and if we ALL got together to make one resort, I can only imagine what would come out of it. :animwink:
So please Kermit we're just trying to brainstorm with you, please share with us all of your thoughts on our questions. :animwink:
Yes Kermit, please defend your ideas in more detail. We all want to help you, and we all want to know what you're thinking so we CAN help you. Obviously not many of us agree with your ideas, we just want to hear what makes you agree with them. Like Crazy Harry said, please debate your beliefs about this resort with us with some good reasons.
Also critters are defined as "creatures," yes...but when you think of the word "critter" you don't think of dinosaurs, fish, or the Canadian wilderness. You usually think of the animals that one would find on such attractions as Splash Mountain or the Country Bear Jamboree, not Countdown to Extinction or the Seas with Nemo and Friends. The other part that we're disagreeing with you about on Critter Country/Animal Kingdom is that thematically it wouldn't work. Sure if it's themed to animals it would be one bizarre land. First of all it's located on the side of the Rivers of America which doesn't make any sense at all as two of the attractions don't even take place in America. Splash Mountain takes place in the post-war American South, so that makes sense. Countdown to Extinction takes place in the far-off future and is really undetermined in exact location. I guess it is in America though because in a way it's home of origin was "Dinoland, U.S.A." The Seas with Nemo and Friends obviously takes place in Australia, and last time I checked that is nowhere near the American frontier. O, Canada is technically in North America but not the United States of America. The Indian War Canoes I can understand so I'll leave those alone.
But basically picture yourself riding on top of the old riverboat. You look at all the Frontierland beauty then turn and see the beginnings of Critter Country. You see Splash Mountain and really think, "Wow this really is the frontier." But then suddenly the plant-life becomes all tropical and turns into a mesh between Future World and a State Museum. A dinosaur statue and a bunch of animatronic seagulls screeching "MINE" appear out of nowhere. Then the North American wilderness comes back but rather than being the wilderness of the American frontier, it's the wilderness of the Canadian frontier! And then London suddenly appears with Winnie the Pooh and Tigger too! As your boat leaves you turn around and think...huh?
Really it kind of just seems like you wanted those attractions in the park and just wanted to put them in somewhere, so you chose Critter Country. But the only ones that really fit in Critter Country are Splash Mountain and the Canoes. And I think you had Pooh's Hunny Hunt in there too, so I'll give you that one as well, as Disneyland made the unfortunate move of replacing the Country Bears with the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
But the rest of them don't fit in at all...O, Canada is just wilderness-esque which would fit in with Critter Country if it was themed to something revolving around critters. So why don't you take the concept of O, Canada and turn it into something that's not about Canada. Something that fits in with the cartoonish-wilderness theme of Critter Country and turn it into something entirely different! You could do a lot with this, I know you can. As for the Seas with Nemo and Friends. Why don't you move that to a possible future second park? Or you can get rid of that particular attraction and create an entire new land beyond the berm of the park that is themed to underwater creatures. It could be a land that appears to be underwater but isn't, and it can have attractions from Finding Nemo, the Little Mermaid, and pretty much any other ocean-themed Disney movie out there. That may seem like a mesh-up of ideas, but really they work together because they're all in a land that would be able to make them work together. For Countdown to Extinction, if you really want that move it to Tomorrowland or just get rid of it all together. If you have an Indiana Jones ride already in the park, then it may clash with a very similar attraction. Not saying Indy has ever discovered dinosaurs before, it's just they have the same attraction vehicles (With different paint jobs) and they follow the EXACT SAME TRACK. I'm not even joking you, many people don't know that Countdown to Extinction (DINOSAUR) follows the same track layout as Indiana Jones Adventure in Disneyland in California and Tokyo DisneySea. After the failure remodeling of Tomorrowland back in 1998 or so, Disney found that it wasn't successful as they would have liked it to be (It was supposed to be the fabled "Tomorrowland 2055") so they started looking for ways to fix it up a bit. The first thing they wanted to do was bring some new life into the Primeval World diorama and get rid of Honey, I Shrunk the Audience which had just opened with the recent changes. They then came up with the idea of gutting the theater and turning it into the Dino Institute of California, being the extensive queue for a brand new version of Countdown to Extinction. The show building would have been beneath Space Mountain, called for the gutting of a storage building, stretched out a bit into the parade garage behind Main Street, and into the Primeval World Diorama. Passing trains would be able to see the time rovers filled with happy (And not-so-happy) guests rolling around the dinosaur-inhabited landscape as they attempt to make it home in time before an oncoming asteroid hits. The painted backdrop would be removed and an entire three dimensional jungle would be added, making the Primeval World darker (It would be dark, so think riding a train inside the Knott's Berry Farm Log Ride with dinosaurs in it), bigger, more realistic, and more exciting! The trains presence would be justified by a bunch of time traveling gear left carelessly along the edge of the Grand Canyon. The train would set off the machinery and cause them to go temporarily back in time to the age of dinosaurs. So Countdown to Extinction could work in Tomorrowland, but not in Critter Country.
Now I like you Kermit, you're a nice guy and a friend, and don't think of me or anyone else as a horrible bully, I'm just giving you my input and trying to help you out here.
None of your ideas are bad, they are good, we're just trying to help you out over here. When I created one of the very first open brainstorming threads back in 2008 over on Visions Fantastic (Disneyland Australia), I made it with the intention of bringing a bunch of Imagineers together to create one killer theme park/resort. I wanted to share a few of my ideas then have them come in and give me their input and share some of their own ideas. Then I would give them my input and they would give me their input, and so on so forth. By sometime last year (2009) we had an almost complete resort which had gone through what seemed to be multiple-changes. We started out with something pretty awesome, then turned it into something REALLY awesome by moving attractions to other parks, deleting things we didn't think that fit in too well with their surroundings, and even starting from scratch on some lands. And that is why there are have been so many open brainstorming threads to follow. The point of an open brainstorming thread is so that you and many others can come together and make one amazing project. Everyone on WDWMagic is a brilliant Imagineer and if we ALL got together to make one resort, I can only imagine what would come out of it. :animwink:
So please Kermit we're just trying to brainstorm with you, please share with us all of your thoughts on our questions. :animwink:
There are many things wrong with this. First, the guest in the riverboat scenario later found out that what he saw was only a dream. Second, there are a few minor differences betwen CTX's layout and IJA's layout. Last, but not least, I have never been to Knott's Berry Farm. So, I do not know what their log flume looks like.