Disneyland considers new annual passes and tickets for afternoon and evenings - OCR/SCNG

[TP2000]

Works for me! This may be my best bet.

Depending on what the price range is for this new Don't Call It An Annual Pass Annual Pass Program, that may be the best bet for most of us.

It might not be a bad change, either. It's how we did it for the first 40 years, certainly.

 

[CaptinEO]

Depending on what the price range is for this new Don't Call It An Annual Pass Annual Pass Program, that may be the best bet for most of us.

It might not be a bad change, either. It's how we did it for the first 40 years, certainly.

Its an Annual Membership where the person paying 400 dollars for their membership has benefits beyond a 1200 dollar membership. No idea what they were trying with this. I thought theyd simplify their passes, not make it more complex.

 

[TP2000]

Its an Annual Membership where the person paying 400 dollars for their membership has benefits beyond a 1200 dollar membership. No idea what they were trying with this. I thought theyd simplify their passes, not make it more complex.

Just so long as they add the + symbol to the final product, I'll be happy.

It's not authentically Disney if it doesn't have a + symbol at the end.

 

[CaptinEO]

Just so long as they add the + symbol to the final product, I'll be happy.

It's not authentically Disney if it doesn't have a + symbol at the end.

I stopped with the D+ after my free year ran out. I own mostly the entire library of animated features on laserdisc and bluray/dvd and dont want to pay for access to movies I already have. Plus you can't even get the original versions of Star Wars on there.

 

[TP2000]

I stopped with the D+ after my free year ran out. I own mostly the entire library of animated features on laserdisc and bluray/dvd and dont want to pay for access to movies I already have. Plus you can't even get the original versions of Star Wars on there.

Yeah, I don't even have Disney+.

I love my Netflix and my Amazon Prime, but since I have The Apple Dumpling Gang on VHS, I have no need for Disney+.

 

[CaptinEO]

Yeah, I don't even have Disney+.

I love my Netflix and my Amazon Prime, but since I have The Apple Dumpling Gang on VHS, I have no need for Disney+.

You don't feel like paying 8 dollars a month to watch a movie you already own? What's wrong with you!

In all seriousness I feel Disney Plus' future is that it only appeals to those who are super mega fans of Marvel and Star Wars that want to see all the expanded side stories that are too unimportant to be on actual TV or be actual movies.

 

[fctiger]

You don't feel like paying 8 dollars a month to watch a movie you already own? What's wrong with you!

In all seriousness I feel Disney Plus' future is that it only appeals to those who are super mega fans of Marvel and Star Wars that want to see all the expanded side stories that are too unimportant to be on actual TV or be actual movies.

Actually I feel it's the opposite with Marvel and Star Wars as it looks like the shows are going to be very important to the films going forward, especially Marvel. Wandavision already had a big game changer last week that can redefine the MCU going forward. So I think these shows will be pretty must-sees for fans.

 

[fctiger]

I'm curious to see what these new passes will be like. I'm kind of up for whatever they do because the reality is since capacity is going to have to be down for a long time and they have so many locals for this park than any other minus maybe Tokyo, they don't have much of a choice. And frankly while many people will want to go ASAP, I do think most will go less than before, at least at the beginning.

Sort of off topic but the weirdest thing happened yesterday and I got refunded our AP passes, only we were on the monthly program but yet still got refunded a little over $320 for four passes or around $80 apiece. It was certainly nice to get, but odd since as said it was monthly so I didn't expect anything back. Maybe they just calculated the rest of the month we didn't use or something, but not complaining!

 

[fctiger]

I've always been more of nooner park goer and love to be there when the park closes vs when it opens. Unless its something like ROTR or a reason you have to be there at opening to see it, I always prefer going in the mid-afternoon and shutting the park down. It's not great in terms of getting FPs or dinner reservations but the other great thing about going until it closes is that most rides are pretty light after the fireworks/Fantasmic barring crazy busy days. So I would be much more inclined for 8 hour passes from 4-12 or something close to that.

When I lived in Tokyo, they had the twilight pass which you could go after 4 to either TDL or TDS and the parks usually closed at 10 p.m. You can't stay as long but they were also only around $30 at the time so a really great bargain and you could basically hit the top rides even without FPs as long as you stuck through closing. I did tons of twilight tickets there since I never owned an AP. If they did something similar to that here I would be great with that.

 

[Curious Constance]

Yeah, I don't even have Disney+.

I love my Netflix and my Amazon Prime, but since I have The Apple Dumpling Gang on VHS, I have no need for Disney+.

WandaVision alone is worth the $8 a month!

 

[CaptinEO]

Actually I feel it's the opposite with Marvel and Star Wars as it looks like the shows are going to be very important to the films going forward, especially Marvel. Wandavision already had a big game changer last week that can redefine the MCU going forward. So I think these shows will be pretty must-sees for fans.

But that's what I mean, these are all supplements to the actual main story, not the main story. I'm happy for the people that enjoy these things, but I'm just not into them.

To me the billion Star Wars shows being announced was just proof that Disney wants to milk the franchise. Even Bob Chapek yesterday talked about "cranking out" Star Wars and Marvel content as fast as they can onto the service.

 

[el_super]

But that's what I mean, these are all supplements to the actual main story, not the main story. I'm happy for the people that enjoy these things, but I'm just not into them.

I've seen a lot being said about the conference call yesterday and what direction Disney needs to take, and I think the important thing to take away and keep in the back of your head is: the perception that the "main story" has to take place in film, and side stories thru TV may drastically change in the next year or so.

Disney is posturing itself as a streaming company first and foremost, and a film studio and TV broadcaster second.

To me the billion Star Wars shows being announced was just proof that Disney wants to milk the franchise. Even Bob Chapek yesterday talked about "cranking out" Star Wars and Marvel content as fast as they can onto the service.

Well... yeah. Saying that Disney wants to milk their IP isn't all that shocking or weird really. If you're a potato farmer, you are gonna want to sell your potatoes. Circumstance just allow them to produce a lot more quality content that they can now deliver through Disney+, where maybe 40 years ago all that Star Wars content came in the form of hundreds, if not thousands of EU novels and Marvel was pushing thousands of comic books. The concept is the same, the mode of transport is different.

The production quality of WandaVision has been beyond excellent. It easily could have been packaged as a film. I quickly got over the Mandalorian, but you know, your mileage may vary. It seems important for Disney to make sure there is something for everyone to watch, and maybe if you don't like the Mandalorian, you will still like Marvel.

 

[DrAlice]

If they really want to control numbers in the park (for COVID capacity restrictions and/or for operations), the only way I see this logistically working well is if they control it at the front gate. In other words, an all day pass, a pass to enter at noon, a pass to enter at 4pm. This eliminates the need for wristbands or trying to kick people out. The only other easy alternative is that NOBODY gets a full-day pass and they clear the park between sessions (You know, like a roller rink. Yeah, I still go to those. ). I don't think anyone wants that last option to happen.

 

[Darkbeer1]

Disneyland’s annual passholders accounted for half of attendance, analysts say

With an estimated 1 million passholders, there would have been an impossibly long virtual queue of die-hard fans waiting anxiously to snag an online advance reservation for Disneyland’s reopening d…

www.ocregister.com

 

[Tamandua]

I guess I spent too much time getting used to the old way. These new proposals sound pretty terrible. Maybe Knotts and universal would be a good alternative for us until Disney goes back to wanting more people to come.

 

[cmwade77]

Wow, good point.

I imagine the cost savings there are a nice little bonus on the PowerPoint show used to sell this idea in TDA and Burbank.

But with today's technology, you really could gain a lot of efficiency there with scheduling, staffing, training, employee benefits, etc.

Honestly, I think they were already in the process of getting to reservations for all before COVID, it just accelerated the timeline.

 

[RollerCoaster]

In theory put a ticket / ap scanner and a CM at the entrance to every ride. If you have a morning ticket and it is not morning time, deny entry.

Seems like an expensive solution.

How is that any different than how it is today? They already have staffing in place at the entry of nearly every attraction.

 

[CaptinEO]

In theory put a ticket / ap scanner and a CM at the entrance to every ride. If you have a morning ticket and it is not morning time, deny entry.

Seems like an expensive solution.

Other option would be to clear the park between daytime and nighttime.

If they really do it this way they need to add magic bands already. The showing of tickets/APs backed up fastpass so much when it changed from showing them the fast past papers.

They already have the infrastructure for Magic Bands at the fastpass entrances and payment systems around the resort.

 

[RollerCoaster]

If they really do it this way they need to add magic bands already. The showing of tickets/APs backed up fastpass so much when it changed from showing them the fast past papers.

They already have the infrastructure for Magic Bands at the fastpass entrances and payment systems around the resort.

It backs up when things outside of their control happen, like the attraction downtime. This happens with Magic Bands too.

Part of the idea behind these changes is to reduce the number of people physically present in the parks. Many of the problems happen because of the sheer number of guests in the park. On slower days these pinch points aren't a problem, even when there are circumstances like downtime.

 

[CaptinEO]

It backs up when things outside of their control happen, like the attraction downtime. This happens with Magic Bands too.

Part of the idea behind these changes is to reduce the number of people physically present in the parks. Many of the problems happen because of the sheer number of guests in the park. On slower days these pinch points aren't a problem, even when there are circumstances like downtime.

I don't think you understand what I mean. I'm talking about during normal operations the ticket thing causes huge backups, I've seen it many times.