TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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That's your opinion. Anything that you can make money off of is a job. Why are we demonizing people who have managed to make a life off of this?
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News Disneyland cancels Annual Pass program
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That's your opinion. Anything that you can make money off of is a job. Why are we demonizing people who have managed to make a life off of this?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Hard to say that for certain.
We aren’t sure of:
1. Supply
2. Logistics
3. Administration
Ok...off topic...but has anyone discussed the possibility that Kneon IS Fresh Baked? I mean they sound AWFULLY alike..haha.
On topic...I think the cancellation of the AP program is the best thing Disney could have done from a business angle. The diehards will still pay full gate to go but maybe not go as much. As a former CM I am THRILLED because now maybe doing something like moving a churro cart four feet to the left won't result in an "outraged" group of AP's declaring that's "not how Walt would have moved it" and then they go on to storm Guest Relations for a refund for their monthly So Cal Select payment for their "outrage".
Vegas Disney Fan
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Yes, we just went in November and had a fantastic time. We’re already planning a March trip.
I missed the fireworks but other than that we did everything we wanted and enjoyed having extra time at our resort to relax, have drinks by the pool, and just hang out with friends and family.
When the alternative is no parks hours 9-6 is pretty good.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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no. its not. vlogging is not a job. when girl scouts go around selling cookies they are not doing a job. Not to derail the topic of the thread but i want to vent..... vlogging is just taking your personal trip videos of a park you had nothing to do with in its construction, design, or concept and making money off the videos. making videos off someone else's prpoerty and dreams. then you have the nerve to activate "SUPER CHATS" So people can pay you to read their comments. vloggers are a blight upon the world. and a distraction while in the park. and rude.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
Well-Known Member
No freshbaked actually has an account on this site called "masterdavid" i think it is. but he has an account and does come on sometimes. He actually is upfront when announcing he is here or in a discussion.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Ahhh...not exactly normal times...
You may not like it so much when Disney is GREAT again
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For decades Disneyland's leadership kept feeding the monster with an admission system that it knew was in direct conflict with the functionality and purpose of the parks it was operating. In the years leading up to this announcement many posters here argued that the AP program was unsustainable and pointed to evidence speculating that Disney ultimately had intentions to do away with it. Now that we're here I hope Disney takes this moment to innovate, figure out a system that satisfies its most loyal customers, and delivers on the promise that Disneyland is for everyone not just AP holders. I never want to go to Disneyland again and feel like I've dropped in on a 40,000-person family reunion.
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Good.
iLikeMountains
Member
I would consider creating content that people enjoy, subscribe to and pay money for is a job. And I'm sure there is plenty of work involved if you want to be successful. Just because you have some odd visceral hatred towards vloggers doesn't mean what they do is not a job.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I’ve been to WDW a dozen times since 2013 and DL probably a hundred, I’m familiar with normal... doesn’t change the fact we had an amazing time in November. Different doesn’t mean it’s not enjoyable.
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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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They are not creating content. all their "content" comes from Disney. They are making money off Disney.
iLikeMountains
Member
I could record a 30 minute video of my foot and put it on Youtube. That would be considered content. Some may consider it art...
Never the less, creating videos for others to watch is creating content.
Brer Oswald
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Perhaps not an overpriced land. But I expected them to put it all on the table for the attractions. Or at least up to par with the new Star Wars attractions.
They went all out for what is essentially a simulator for a Star Wars spinoff film that bombed hard, and a dark ride for a Star Wars trilogy that is mostly frowned upon by critics and fans alike. To make matters worse, the more popular of the two has terrible capacity, and the chance of your average visitor getting to go on it is luck based?
Then you have the new Spider-Man ride that has you shoot webs at “spider bots”? You have a popular franchise with one of the greatest lists of varied and interesting villains, and you go with a “something goes wrong” premise?
It’s become clear in the last decade that Disney wants to compete with Universal for the reputation of having the most exciting and immersive new experiences. But I don’t understand how they’ll be able to pull that off when they’re messing up at the creative direction stage of development. There’s only so much money can do after a project gets greenlit.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Those rides were under construction before the bombs dropped...
Not sure that would have happened had they known prior.
The marvel canvas was commented - If I recall - as a somewhat “budget friendly” repurpose of underused DCA land. Don’t think the goal was ever “all out”?
Californian Elitist
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EXACTLY. I thought I bet they’re just as “poor” as the rest of us. I’m sure there are plenty of uppity wealthy (and non-wealthy) people who wouldn’t even consider visiting Disneyland because it’s not up to whatever standards they may have.
Not gonna lie, I also find the term a little funny and may have giggled a bit. It’s still ridiculous though lol.
Brer Oswald
Well-Known Member
I’d still consider it content. They are taking the shots, editing the videos, displaying their “personalities”.
Brer Oswald
Well-Known Member
I don’t think it was ever a wise idea to commit so much to one property, especially one they’d already explored at that point.
You’re probably right about how the Marvel idea was conceived. I don’t care that much for Marvel, but it’s clear that it was the big money maker of the two IP acquisitions. Which is why the budgeted decision doesn’t quite add up.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
If they provide a service, in this case content production, and get paid for it that is the very definition of a job.
Just because you don't see value in their content doesn't mean its not a job. Also if people want to pay them, who are you to say its not a job. They provide a service to those people, and they are more than willing to pay. No one is forcing them to hand over their money to the vlogger, they do it on their own.
The same could be said for gamers who stream or make videos their game play. They are making money off of the game developer, but yet in a lot of cases the game developer provides their blessing and in some cases even sponsors those streamers.
In this case Disney has provided their blessing even if unofficially for the benefit of promoting the Parks. So if Disney doesn't mind why do you?
Tamandua
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Disney has been focus group testing and surveying their customers on every tiny thing they do for decades. Anyone who's been an AP knows they send out surveys all the time. What I don't understand is how they're going to rewrite the rules in a way that gives people less for more money and gets people to say that's cool. I guess they're trying to find the sweet spot where they off just the right amount of people? I don't get it.
I've seen a lot of people talk about how entitled APs are. Maybe that's true, but I've never understood why Disney does anything extra for them beyond giving them admission and maybe the sales discount? Why schedule AP only events? Why hand out AP only swag? People talk like APs have been this monkey on their back for years, and yet they were doing all this stuff that was really unnecessary for them. It doesn't add up in my mind.
Everything is moving towards the subscription model. Disney+ is practically carrying Disney right now. It's hard for me to believe that they're going to try to push as many people as possible to daily rates. They sound just cancel all perks outside of admission and let the people who feel entitled to more rage quit.
I've seen a lot of people talk about how entitled APs are. Maybe that's true, but I've never understood why Disney does anything extra for them beyond giving them admission and maybe the sales discount? Why schedule AP only events? Why hand out AP only swag? People talk like APs have been this monkey on their back for years, and yet they were doing all this stuff that was really unnecessary for them. It doesn't add up in my mind.
Everything is moving towards the subscription model. Disney+ is practically carrying Disney right now. It's hard for me to believe that they're going to try to push as many people as possible to daily rates. They sound just cancel all perks outside of admission and let the people who feel entitled to more rage quit.