Disneyland 1991 - Vol. III

[cdunlap]

So, I have a few ideas:
A surreal, plotless walkthrough with the following rooms: A room with a chess playing computer, a library of EVERY book that has ever existed (Bookshelves+Mirrors=Infinite Library), a Mayan tomb lined with ancient glyphs, a room with Extinct Animals and placards describing them, a Spaceship with the Solar System in view, and a giant vintage postcard depicting a beach.
A ride based on Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Pirate Catacombs in New Orleans Square
The Danse Macabre Library in a Salem themed area near Frontierland

 

[cdunlap]

This may sound really 90s- 00s. But what about a Dreamfinder/Figment DisneyQuest?

Amazing!

 

[MonorailRed]

So, I have a few ideas:
A surreal, plotless walkthrough with the following rooms: A room with a chess playing computer, a library of EVERY book that has ever existed (Bookshelves+Mirrors=Infinite Library), a Mayan tomb lined with ancient glyphs, a room with Extinct Animals and placards describing them, a Spaceship with the Solar System in view, and a giant vintage postcard depicting a beach.
A ride based on Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Pirate Catacombs in New Orleans Square
The Danse Macabre Library in a Salem themed area near Frontierland

The first one sounds like we could do something with it for the Downtown Disney area - are you thinking something like an escape room situation, or something more like museum of the weird?

Pirate catacombs could be interesting!

Would the Indi ride replace the current one we know? It was around the same time period - I didn’t think of DL park making the area part of the resort overhaul - but it all connects honestly. Great catch! Disneyland should be on the table as well!

 

[cdunlap]

Pirate catacombs could be interesting!

That was a real unbuilt concept from the 90s!

 

[MonorailRed]

That was a real unbuilt concept from the 90s!

This may sound a little odd, but we’ve always thought about going over the road.

What if we went under? Catacombs or some something else themed out.

A Secret Tunnel connecting the right side of property to the left?

 

[cdunlap]

The first one sounds like we could do something with it for the Downtown Disney area - are you thinking something like an escape room situation, or something more like museum of the weird?

I don't know, but I have an idea for the facade, a Winchester Mystery House type mansion with a slanting Victorian facade, stairs to nowhere with a central staircase acting as the entrance (Think Haunted Mansion's Endless Stairs but outdoors), doors that lead nowhere, and strangely shaped windows. I also have this idea for a garden themed to Asian cultures, namely China, Tibet, Korea, and Vietnam. China is represented by a statue of the Nian, a monster that fears the color red and lives below the Yellow Sea, and Chinese characters meaning positive things like Good Luck and Happiness made out of red and yellow flowers, Korea by a restaurant where guests can dine on traditional Korean cuisine while playing the equally traditional card game Go-Stop, Tibet is represented by a garden of flowers and juniper trees dotted with Tibetan sculptures, and Vietnam is represented by a statue telling the story of Tet, the Vietnamese New Year, surrounded by White Daffodils, which are said to provide inspiration. I think the garden would go well with WESTCOT if we're doing that. Otherwise, there's always Downtown Disney!

 

[MonorailRed]

I don't know, but I have an idea for the facade, a Winchester Mystery House type mansion with a slanting Victorian facade, stairs to nowhere with a central staircase acting as the entrance (Think Haunted Mansion's Endless Stairs but outdoors), doors that lead nowhere, and strangely shaped windows. I also have this idea for a garden themed to Asian cultures, namely China, Tibet, Korea, and Vietnam. China is represented by a statue of the Nian, a monster that fears the color red and lives below the Yellow Sea, and Chinese characters meaning positive things like Good Luck and Happiness made out of red and yellow flowers, Korea by a restaurant where guests can dine on traditional Korean cuisine while playing the equally traditional card game Go-Stop, Tibet is represented by a garden of flowers and juniper trees dotted with Tibetan sculptures, and Vietnam is represented by a statue telling the story of Tet, the Vietnamese New Year, surrounded by White Daffodils, which are said to provide inspiration. I think the garden would go well with WESTCOT if we're doing that. Otherwise, there's always Downtown Disney!

Honetly if we went with even stand alone structures in a Westcot setting, these would be amazing additions to each pavilion.

 

[ThemeParkPriest]

This may sound a little odd, but we’ve always thought about going over the road.

What if we went under? Catacombs or some something else themed out.

A Secret Tunnel connecting the right side of property to the left?

I think that makes some good sense. It wouldn't work well in Orlando due to the water level. However, when I was in Beijing, every main intersection would have tunnels under the highway.

By the way, I'm not super familiar with Disneyland's layout so I took a look at current parking vs. where we are considering on putting it (on the east part). We would still be close to I-5, so I think it will still be attractive to those driving to the resort (and even a little closer to the former Amtrak/Metrolink and current Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center/ARTIC--opened in 2014).

 

[MonorailRed]

I think that makes some good sense. It wouldn't work well in Orlando due to the water level. However, when I was in Beijing, every main intersection would have tunnels under the highway.

By the way, I'm not super familiar with Disneyland's layout so I took a look at current parking vs. where we are considering on putting it (on the east part). We would still be close to I-5, so I think it will still be attractive to those driving to the resort (and even a little closer to the former Amtrak/Metrolink and current Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center/ARTIC--opened in 2014).

Perfect!

I guess we'd theme the tunnels to whatever theme we have parking?

Should we have a theme for a parking lot?

 

[Disney Warrior]

Perfect!

I guess we'd theme the tunnels to whatever theme we have parking?

Should we have a theme for a parking lot?

Seven Dwarves? Disney heroes? (Those can be for the parking lot)

 

[cdunlap]

Ok, this may sound a little outrageous, but what if we had a ghost ship in the pirate catacombs that guests can explore? I see a brig (Ship Prison) with a cell guarded by a dog, ghost pirates wandering hallways (Pepper's ghost), a 3 shelf display case holding 6 swords, 3 scimitars and 3 cutlasses, and a treasure room.

 

[MonorailRed]

Ok, this may sound a little outrageous, but what if we had a ghost ship in the pirate catacombs that guests can explore? I see a brig (Ship Prison) with a cell guarded by a dog, ghost pirates wandering hallways (Pepper's ghost), a 3 shelf display case holding 6 swords, 3 scimitars and 3 cutlasses, and a treasure room.

You know - a Ghost Ship escape room would be amazing. It'd work well in a Pleasure island enviornment. Maybe this could be an experience?

 

[Disney Warrior]

I just had this idea: if we are also adding on to Disneyland park, why not reuse a concept from what if? Is this fair game?

 

[cdunlap]

You know - a Ghost Ship escape room would be amazing. It'd work well in a Pleasure island enviornment. Maybe this could be an experience?

I see it looking like the ghost ship in that HM painting! The escape room could definitely work, but I was thinking that it would suit the Mystery House Walkthrough better

 

[MonorailRed]

On a side note... @ThemeParkPriest @Disney Warrior My Kodak pictures of ya'll from the park came back from CVS. More film is getting developed though, so we'll see.

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

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So green could be a Waterpark/Hotel Area

Yellow Garage/TTC Situation

Blue 2nd gate.

Downtown Disney style concepts anyone?

This layout isn't game changing for the 2nd park, but makes too much sense to put it there for the connectivity with DL. All of the green on your map south of Katella (white line) should be plenty of land for a waterpark (80+- acres) and as you noted, the hotel could have a designated entrance over Katella into the park. There's probably even enough room in that area north of Katella to fit 2 hotels (purple/orange) at 20 acres each. Give them a designated entry into the 2nd park somehow in that area that is Freedman.

Maybe a secondary, new monorail line that hugs the southern portion of the South Parking lot and back of park to provide additional transportation options.

However the larger layout shakes out, important to have that bubble factor between DL/2nd Park/Future DD from a security perspective so it's all outside the perimter.

A bit random, but a Dino themed land would be interesting for the park. Animal Kingdom would have been in the works in 91, and might be interesting add if it fits the park's theme. Plus maybe it would encourage them to go further with AK. lol

 

[cdunlap]

I have this idea for a Greek Mythology themed walkthrough attraction. It begins in the Parthenon, Athena’s temple, as it was in the ancient times. Guests then descend into a cave below where they see Arachne the Spider before reaching Hades and Cerberus. From there, guests ascend into Apollo’s chamber with sheet music painted on the walls, the palace of Aphrodite, the spartan house of Ares with pictures of warriors throughout the ages, the gardens of Hera where flowers of all sorts are in bloom, Poseidon’s lighthouse where the times of tides are shown, and a room with flashing lightning bolts belonging to Zeus.

 

[MonorailRed]

Seven Dwarves? Disney heroes? (Those can be for the parking lot)

Sure!

I just had this idea: if we are also adding on to Disneyland park, why not reuse a concept from what if? Is this fair game?

I don't see why we couldn't

Since we have more time, you might as well develop it more though (more art, music, etc.)

I see it looking like the ghost ship in that HM painting! The escape room could definitely work, but I was thinking that it would suit the Mystery House Walkthrough betterView attachment 733035

May even be good for a hotel or water park experience Let's get the main areas of the resort down and see where it belongs.

This layout isn't game changing for the 2nd park, but makes too much sense to put it there for the connectivity with DL. All of the green on your map south of Katella (white line) should be plenty of land for a waterpark (80+- acres) and as you noted, the hotel could have a designated entrance over Katella into the park. There's probably even enough room in that area north of Katella to fit 2 hotels (purple/orange) at 20 acres each. Give them a designated entry into the 2nd park somehow in that area that is Freedman.

Maybe a secondary, new monorail line that hugs the southern portion of the South Parking lot and back of park to provide additional transportation options.

However the larger layout shakes out, important to have that bubble factor between DL/2nd Park/Future DD from a security perspective so it's all outside the perimter.

A bit random, but a Dino themed land would be interesting for the park. Animal Kingdom would have been in the works in 91, and might be interesting add if it fits the park's theme. Plus maybe it would encourage them to go further with AK. lol

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Brilliant! I agree with security. I think I'm leaning toward the concept of surrounding the waterpark with a volcano... Then the rockwork barriers the parameter. It'll give the security clearance.

Dinos would be fun.... actually... it may be a fun take on a waterpark attraction! Imagine Dinosaur AAs in a raft attraction!

 

[MonorailRed]

I have this idea for a Greek Mythology themed walkthrough attraction. It begins in the Parthenon, Athena’s temple, as it was in the ancient times. Guests then descend into a cave below where they see Arachne the Spider before reaching Hades and Cerberus. From there, guests ascend into Apollo’s chamber with sheet music painted on the walls, the palace of Aphrodite, the spartan house of Ares with pictures of warriors throughout the ages, the gardens of Hera where flowers of all sorts are in bloom, Poseidon’s lighthouse where the times of tides are shown, and a room with flashing lightning bolts belonging to Zeus.

Nice! Let's see where we can put this.

I know we were talking about making the waterpark hotel area Italian. Maybe something over there?

 

[MonorailRed]

Well... The photos aren't done... But Eisner called and wanted me to handout your nametags.

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