Disney workers robbed leaving work at the cast member parking lot at MK

[TP2000]

It's a unfortunate situation but can happen anywhere. I would hope disney would increase security now

True, but it's statistically far more likely to happen in metro Orlando than most other American cities.

Disney has an opportunity here to educate their employees in Orlando on how to behave when they leave property, to lessen their chances of being another Orlando crime victim. This should be something TDO should be focusing on in order to prepare their employees for a higher quality of life and thus a happier career (and thus better service for us paying customers who stay safely on property).

Here's the latest crime statistics comparing Anaheim, a city of 350,000 where Disney employs 26,000 in the middle of a 3.6 Million population of Orange County, California.... Compared to Orlando as a smaller city of 250,000 in the middle of a 2.1 Million population of Central Florida where Disney employs 60,000. The CM's walking to their apartment in Anaheim enjoy a 64% less dangerous environment than the CM's walking to their apartment in metro Orlando. http://www.areavibes.com/crime-comparison/orlando, fl-vs-anaheim, ca/

The comparison of nearby Kissimmee isn't much better, even though Kissimmee is a small city of just 60,000 compared to 350,000 in Anaheim. There's actually more murders in Kissimmee, double the violent crimes, four times the burglaries, etc. than there are in all of Anaheim. http://www.areavibes.com/crime-comparison/kissimmee, fl-vs-anaheim, ca/

Those statistics tell the story here quite clearly. To be clear, I don't think a company should be held responsible for their employees getting mugged once they walk off company property. But I do think it's clear that Disney should be doing a better job in training and helping their CM's live safer lives in metro Orlando once they punch out for the day.

 

[Becky]

Bingo. Not sure how this can be Disney's fault, or how an increase in Disney Security in the employee parking lots could have stopped these muggings.



If there's any responsibility Disney has in this, about the only thing I can think of is it would be nice if Disney could provide training and communication to their CM's on behaviors to use to avoid being the victim of a crime. Walking along a road at 1:00 AM in a statistically very high crime area with an expensive cell phone in your pocket is not a good behavior, unfortunately. Thankfully no one was injured or killed!

One robbery DID take place ON Disney property. A CM parking lot. The other was off property.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

I wuz robbed at Disney at the ticket booth!

Too soon?

 

[rob0519]

Get in line. I've been getting robbed for years.
Bing- The claims department is now serving number 12,023,952,587.

You weren't robbed. You voluntarily handed over your money. Disney didn't ask your for it nor hold a gun to you. A crime was committed. The victims could have been hurt or worse and there are always people who attempt to be funny and make it about themselves. Grow up folks.

 

[unkadug]

You weren't robbed. You voluntarily handed over your money. Disney didn't ask your for it nor hold a gun to you. A crime was committed. The victims could have been hurt or worse and there are always people who attempt to be funny and make it about themselves. Grow up folks.

I don't think he was trying to make it about himself...just adding a little levity to the situation.

I'm pretty sure he has seen his share of crime as I'm pretty sure he is a LEO.

 

[RWilliams]

Bingo. Not sure how this can be Disney's fault, or how an increase in Disney Security in the employee parking lots could have stopped these muggings.

Metro Orlando has one of the highest per capita crime rates in the nation, and made the 25 Most Dangerous Cities in America list again, etc., etc. It's been that way for years and years. The adjoining city of Kissimmee also has a very high per capita crime rate. These are not safe cities to wander around in, and the CM's who were mugged on their walk back to the apartments at 1:00 AM need to be aware of that.

If there's any responsibility Disney has in this, about the only thing I can think of is it would be nice if Disney could provide training and communication to their CM's on behaviors to use to avoid being the victim of a crime. Walking along a road at 1:00 AM in a statistically very high crime area with an expensive cell phone in your pocket is not a good behavior, unfortunately. Thankfully no one was injured or killed!

One of the robberies did take place on property. It was in the west clock parking lot. I don't expect nor anticipate that the company will do anything for either of these victims. But it would be nice if there was brighter lighting and some security presence in the lot. I'm actually surprised that this doesn't happen more often.

The second robbery location is adjacent to the cast lot and could be measured from it in feet not miles. It's a brand new apartment complex and is connected to the Disney property by a sidewalk.

As far as the metro Orlando crime statistics are concerned, those really don't apply in this case as the area we're discussing is nowhere near metro Orlando. The crime statistics for the city of Windermere would be more appropriate as this is where the parking lot is located.

 

[RWilliams]

Those statistics tell the story here quite clearly. To be clear, I don't think a company should be held responsible for their employees getting mugged once they walk off company property. But I do think it's clear that Disney should be doing a better job in training and helping their CM's live safer lives in metro Orlando once they punch out for the day.

Again, WDW is not in or even near metro Orlando. Have you ever even been to Walt Disney World?

I agree that we need to take responsibility for our own safety but there are some small changes the company could make to help us- better lighting and even the slightest security presence would be a big help.

 

[Mr Bill]

If there's any responsibility Disney has in this, about the only thing I can think of is it would be nice if Disney could provide training and communication to their CM's on behaviors to use to avoid being the victim of a crime. Walking along a road at 1:00 AM in a statistically very high crime area with an expensive cell phone in your pocket is not a good behavior, unfortunately. Thankfully no one was injured or killed!

And the alternative when they're leaving their near-minimum wage job at the end of their shift is?

 

[BigTxEars]

And the alternative when they're leaving their near-minimum wage job at the end of their shift is?

Don't buy the expensive cell phone, then have to pay the monthly contract. Use that money to pay for a beater used car?

 

[Mr Bill]

Don't buy the expensive cell phone, then have to pay the monthly contract. Use that money to pay for a beater used car?

How do you know phones were expensive? I didn't see anything in the article about what type of phones the victims had. Why spend money you don't really have on a car you don't really need?

 

[unkadug]

Don't buy the expensive cell phone, then have to pay the monthly contract. Use that money to pay for a beater used car?

They wouldn't be caught dead without their cellphones glued to their hands.

 

[unkadug]

How do you know phones were expensive? I didn't see anything in the article about what type of phones the victims had. Why spend money you don't really have on a car you don't really need?

I think the problem lies more in the practice of keeping your nose buried in your phone and not being aware of your surroundings than a money issue.

 

[PhotoDave219]

You weren't robbed. You voluntarily handed over your money. Disney didn't ask your for it nor hold a gun to you. A crime was committed. The victims could have been hurt or worse and there are always people who attempt to be funny and make it about themselves. Grow up folks.

You know you just said that to a cop, right?

 

[BigTxEars]

How do you know phones were expensive? I didn't see anything in the article about what type of phones the victims had. Why spend money you don't really have on a car you don't really need?

When someone implies that the victims had no choice but to walk because of their "poor" pay then I thinks its fair to bring up they can afford a luxury item like a cell phone on their "poor" pay.

 

[BigTxEars]

They wouldn't be caught dead without their cellphones glued to their hands.

If their like my daughter then you are right

 

[RWilliams]

When someone implies that the victims had no choice but to walk because of their "poor" pay then I thinks its fair to bring up they can afford a luxury item like a cell phone on their "poor" pay.

It would seem a bit silly for someone living in those apartments to drive to the west clock lot. I could stand in the parking lot and practically spit to the apartments. They are incredibly close. It's the roughly the equivalent distance of T-Rex to the world of Disney maybe even a bit closer.

 

[BigTxEars]

It would seem a bit silly for someone living in those apartments to drive to the west clock lot. I could stand in the parking lot and practically spit to the apartments. They are incredibly close. It's the roughly the equivalent distance of T-Rex to the world of Disney maybe even a bit closer.

"And the alternative when they're leaving their near-minimum wage job at the end of their shift is?"

This is the post I was replying to, what does their pay level has to do with anything is the question I have? I read it as a their pay must have limited their choice to walking thus opening them up to the crime, my point was that is not true.

 

[Walt is angry]

Maybe they should have robbed some of those greedy WDW execs instead huh?

That would be a step in the right direction.

 

[RWilliams]

"And the alternative when they're leaving their near-minimum wage job at the end of their shift is?"

This is the post I was replying to, what does their pay level has to do with anything is the question I have? I read it as a their pay must have limited their choice to walking thus opening them up to the crime, my point was that is not true.

Sorry, I realize now I quoted you but my comment was really more of a general one. I'm just trying to help people understand the proximity of the two locations. I guess my point is really the same as yours- their pay or lack there of had nothing to do with this. These locations are so close I think anyone of us would walk.

 

[EpcoTim]

Grow up folks.

Right back at ya.