I've not audited every single date and I'm not intimately familiar with discounts, but on a random week I picked in March, the grand was running $1,000 per night rack rate including tax, while the Four Seasons was $1,300 per night rack rate pre-tax.
Isn't a driving need to constantly be adding new members to a 'club' one of the hallmarks of a Ponzi scheme?
Yup, it’s going to be interesting when more contracts expire.Isn't a driving need to constantly be adding new members to a 'club' one of the hallmarks of a Ponzi scheme?
You’re picking the wrong rooms, boss..
They go back and forth in my amateur research.
Those were both "standard view."
Isn't a driving need to constantly be adding new members to a 'club' one of the hallmarks of a Ponzi scheme?
That means they’re too close
You say it cannot be, but it is.
Yes.
In this case that's not really why they did that. The whole selling point of Bay Lake Tower was its proximity to the Magic Kingdom. Lakeview though were named such so as emphasize that while you are near the Magic Kingdom you are not looking at the Magic Kingdom.
Is contemporary South under refurbishment?
It is always easier to sell a moderate or value. Often Revenue management will do this on purpose. Intentionally oversell the moderate and the value. This is not really indicative of a problem with selling Deluxe rooms. The short version here is sometimes they do this during a brief period of soft occupany, it's a nice surprise for the guests, at least most of the time, and it avoids having to lower the rate of the deluxe resorts.
100%
Grand Floridian used to be consistently more expensive than the Four Seasons. However more recently I have noticed a Four Seasons increasing its price substantially and it's now fairly uncommon for it to be cheaper than the Grand Floridian. They do occasionally still offer a fantastic Florida resident rate. If you're able to get that a word of warning sometimes they have a Florida resident rate that really isn't that low and other times it's a good (40%?) off the regular rates.
So real "star ratings" from Forbes or popularity star ratings from travel websites? GF has been awarded a four Diamond rating from AAA but has not ever been awarded a four-star rating from Forbes. The WDW Four seasons aimed for 5 star but was awarded Four star.
I assume proximty to MK but overall I agree with you.
Agree. In my case June 2020 was the last time I saw it cheaper than the grand. Hopefully it swings back into the Four Seasons favor because I absolutely love that Resort.
Three view choices.... Standard. Lake. And theme park. I think those are pretty fair descriptors. They're not charging more for Lakeview. Lakeview is rightfully more than standard. Standard, and this is by no means a Disney exclusive, really is substandard. You know when you get a standard room at any hotel anywhere in the United States that what you got is the dirt cheapest hotel room that hotel had to offer. Standard my backside. This is the custodial closet converted into a room
Right...I get that.Three view choices.... Standard. Lake. And theme park. I think those are pretty fair descriptors. They're not charging more for Lakeview. Lakeview is rightfully more than standard. Standard, and this is by no means a Disney exclusive, really is substandard. You know when you get a standard room at any hotel anywhere in the United States that what you got is the dirt cheapest hotel room that hotel had to offer. Standard my backside. This is the custodial closet converted into a room
Slightly off topic. If you've ever seen the Gaylord Palms near Disney you know that its surround by underwhelming scenery. You can pay more to have a room that overviews as massive and expensive atrium but they don't call their exterior less expensive view rooms "standard", instead they're called " Florida view". Well I guess that is very accurate. You are in Florida and that is your view. lol.
I think Theme Park view is fair for buildings 5 and 7 but the view from the Theme Park Rooms in building 9 is the contemporary resort. You can see space mountain if you’re standing at the glass; you have to go outside and either stand to the right or peer around the divider to see the castle. It’s a bit disingenuous IMO.
Sorry. I has side barred the convo and was talking specifically about standard Lakeside Inn theme park views at Bay Lake Tower.
Chapek vomits a little every time he’s reminded there isn’t a Villas at Disney’s Yacht Club Resort.
