Disney to announce overhaul of DL Tomorrowland at D23?

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GimpYancIent

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el_super said:
Meh.



Something you have to remember: all announcements are made strategically. Disney didn't make many announcements at D23 because... they didn't have to. There was no strategic value in doing so. The parks are doing well, the demand is still sky high, and making announcements now probably didn't make sense.

On the other hand, bluesky concept work is always going on at WDI. They create ideas every single day. Some get a little further than others, but the vast majority of them die off before becoming reality. To be honest, "New Tomorrowland for Disneyland" is one idea that seems omnipresent.

Looking at history: it was nearly 15 years before the initial ideations and the opening of Tomorrowland 98. Some of those ideas got so far that concept art was published (Montana Tomorrowland), and other ideas started having actual job orders for work (Tomorrowland 2055). So even if something gets announced, it isn't a guarantee that the whole project gets completed.


The one thing working toward the eventual announcement of a Tomorrowland redo is that the Subs and Monorail still need to be replaced.
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Replace the subs? Replace the monorails? Hell just get a wrecking ball and bring down the castle.
 
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J4546

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Id rather they create a new version of treasure cove, with a new pirates ride/boats/town on one side, and a hook/PP ride/boats/town on the other.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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Phroobar said:
It's amazing how these forums and the people "in the know" were 100% WRONG!
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Agreed. 🤣

But in their slight defense, plans can change. Especially when the plans are based on a movie that suddenly face-planted at the box office (and even on Disney+ for free!).

Which is why I'm glad that Lightyear flopped as big as it did. With Tokyo completely gutting and re-doing their Space Mountain (a 1982 version of the ride that is an identical copy of Anaheim's 1977 version), there is obviously work within WDI to rebuild and upgrade Space Mountain. And the failed Lightyear movie had an obvious Space Mountain reference in it.

Now that Lightyear not only flopped, but seems to have done serious damage to the Toy Story and Buzz Lightyear brands as a whole, whatever plans they had for Anaheim's Tomorrowland got sent back to the drawing board. I did not want this aesthetic, or this type of IP and character, in Disneyland's Tomorrowland. Or any Tomorrowland around the world, for that matter...

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Phroobar

Phroobar

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Plans don't 100% change to something no one even imagined or mentioned. We have no proof there was ever a Lightyear Mountain. It is this way every year. If someone mentions People Mover, he is a complete fraud. I think Disney is pretty tight lipped that even the tram driver doesn't even know what is coming.
 
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GimpYancIent

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In Bob's own words: "The Disney CEO says that "Our ticket prices and constraints we put on how often people can come and when they come is a direct reflection of demand. When is it too much? Demand will tell us when it's too much." Soooooo this is how he sees it, soooo if the fans would take a hiatus from frequenting the parks allowing the much vaunted / advertised / teased improvements to be built / come online then visit (prudently spending of course) B.C.'s tune may just change. In short the fan's control the money tap! Turn the spigot and reduce the flow of $$$$$$ and see the amazing change's in behavior.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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GimpYancIent said:
In Bob's own words: "The Disney CEO says that "Our ticket prices and constraints we put on how often people can come and when they come is a direct reflection of demand. When is it too much? Demand will tell us when it's too much." Soooooo this is how he sees it, soooo if the fans would take a hiatus from frequenting the parks allowing the much vaunted / advertised / teased improvements to be built / come online then visit (prudently spending of course) B.C.'s tune may just change. In short the fan's control the money tap! Turn the spigot and reduce the flow of $$$$$$ and see the amazing change's in behavior.
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Except Disney fans aren't that smart. They don't think. They just consume.
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
Tomorrowland is next barring a massive shakeup.
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I'm still stunned we've heard as much as we have about some sort of Fantasyland redo. I get that there are a good handful of post-1983 properties that should be due to take up some residence there, but the idea that anyone felt that was anywhere near as urgent as a Tomorrowland reclaimation was shocking to me.
 
CaptinEO

CaptinEO

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
I'm still stunned we've heard as much as we have about some sort of Fantasyland redo. I get that there are a good handful of post-1983 properties that should be due to take up some residence there, but the idea that anyone felt that was anywhere near as urgent as a Tomorrowland reclaimation was shocking to me.
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I think Fantasyland does get a bit of a pass since Pan, Matterhorn, Snow White, and Alice have all had complete redos over the last 7 years.

Tommorowland has not had a redo of any attraction since 2011 with Star Tours. Buzz and the new Space Mountain came out in 2005. I guess Star Tours gets new scenes and Space Mountain has had overlays. However, I'd say it's overdue for redos or replacements at this point.
 
waltography

waltography

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CaptinEO said:
I think Fantasyland does get a bit of a pass since Pan, Matterhorn, Snow White, and Alice have all had complete redos over the last 7 years.
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This, plus FL doesn't feel like the hodgepodge mess TL does. FL '83 has aged gracefully in a way that TL '98 has not (which is a damn shame in timing, considering how close TL's aesthetic before the Verne reskin was so close to becoming chic again).

If anything, Tomorrowland stresses me out in so many ways because of how much of a pain it is to get around. If we're not getting the Peoplemover back, rip out the track once and for all and free up the airspace again.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
I'm still stunned we've heard as much as we have about some sort of Fantasyland redo. I get that there are a good handful of post-1983 properties that should be due to take up some residence there, but the idea that anyone felt that was anywhere near as urgent as a Tomorrowland reclaimation was shocking to me.
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I wouldn’t call getting a ride in the motorboat cruise area and maybe part of Autopia a Fantasyland Redo
 
DLR92

DLR92

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I personally don’t want to see Tommorowland boundaries expand. Keep the footprint size as is. Fantasyland deserve more expansion.
 
PiratesMansion

PiratesMansion

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DLR92 said:
I personally don’t want to see Tommorowland boundaries expand. Keep the footprint size as is. Fantasyland deserve more expansion.
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I'm of two minds on this. They have no idea what to do with Tomorrowland, and so I don't feel like expansion of TL won't serve the park well.

That said, do we really need more Fantasyland when that's how the whole park is leaning now?
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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PiratesMansion said:
I'm of two minds on this. They have no idea what to do with Tomorrowland, and so I don't feel like expansion of TL won't serve the park well.

That said, do we really need more Fantasyland when that's how the whole park is leaning now?
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I mean for all intents and purposes the Subs and Autopia aren’t really Tomorrowland in way, shape or form. Since Disney is so bad at TL, I’d be ok with a Fantasyland expansion (as long as the lagoon and monorail stick around) or an original land but don’t really want to see them touch that land for anything until less incompetent leadership comes around.
 

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