mergatroid
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By all accounts there's a similar problem at City Walk with people not wearing face masks (according to Tim Trackers vlog).
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Disney Springs Mask Enforcement
- Thread starter jl3283
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They hysteria is dying down and things are going back to normal whether the chicken littles of the world like it or not. A month ago they had people at Wal-mart counting customers to make sure only a limited number were in at a time, the isles were marked for one way traffic... this past weekend no one was counting customers, people were ignoring the one way traffic and most people had no masks on. I don't think the governments are going to be the ending the shut down, I think the people are already ending it. The fact that we've had protests for more than 2 weeks but haven't seen hospitals being overrun in those cities where the protests are happening is giving pretty good evidence that their is no reason to continue the shutdown. I mean I didn't see many of those looters practicing social distancing while ransacking stores.
jaklgreen
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Everybody should have this mentality of personal responsibility. The amount of people who are expecting others to "keep them safe" as they wander around a shopping area or theme park is crazy. I am not responsible for your health and safety in a situation like this. I will drive safe, watch out for other's, keep my distance, etc but I am not going to wear a mask, outside, when I am 15 feet away from the next person. It is mask OR social distancing.
G00fyDad
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Just going to leave this right here.....
Jon81uk
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The mask is to protect the other person, not you.
homerdance
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Masks aren't force fields, they aren't 100% going to keep you safe...
the only way to stay safe is to stay home.
If you go out, the next best thing is to stay 6 feet (at least) away from people and wear a mask
If you are closer then that, wearing a mask will reduce the transmission rate.
Even with a mask you can get it.
If you are alone, with no one within 20 feet of you, taking your mask off will not cause the spread to increase unless you sneeze/cough without covering your mouth.
Don't lick handrails.
the only way to stay safe is to stay home.
If you go out, the next best thing is to stay 6 feet (at least) away from people and wear a mask
If you are closer then that, wearing a mask will reduce the transmission rate.
Even with a mask you can get it.
If you are alone, with no one within 20 feet of you, taking your mask off will not cause the spread to increase unless you sneeze/cough without covering your mouth.
Don't lick handrails.
G00fyDad
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As others have repeatedly stated, the mask is to protect OTHERS and not yourself.
And anyone wearing a mask while alone is just being intentionally stupid. You even made my point by this....
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Nope, that was misinformation from the media trying to shame people into using masks. If a mask were intended to protect others and not the wearer then you wouldn't have release valves on n95 masks and healthcare workers wouldn't need them, only the patients.
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Jon81uk
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It depends on the type of mask and the context.
Within a healthcare Covid-19 ward a properly fitted tightly sealed mask is used to protect the wearer and training is needed to fit it properly as well as it needing to be the right type of mask to filter out the particulates.
In a low risk environment (such as a shopping precinct) then the mask is to reduce the amount of droplets leaving your mouth and nose and therefore protect others.
Masks with valves should not be worn https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzann...-counties-are-banning-face-masks-with-valves/
Also in other healthcare wards it is the patients who are being asked to wear the mask. I went in for a routine ultrasound last week and was asked questions to ascertain if I had Covid symptons (which I did not) and was then asked to wear a simple surgical mask once allowed to enter.
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homerdance
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Exactly. I am in the wear a mask group, it's temporary, and it's required, just freaking do it. But don't kid yourself in thinking if everyone is wearing a mask there is a 0.0% transmission rate. So if you are worried about it, don't go out.As others have repeatedly stated, the mask is to protect OTHERS and not yourself.
mergatroid
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Though Florida recorded the highest number of cases in a single day since the pandemic began yesterday.
As I'm not there I have no idea whether the above report is true or not or whether there is a bias? That's just what I've read?
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As long as the entire cast is empowered to step back 6+ feet from any guest who is not wearing a mask (including not scanning their ticket, not serving their food and not ringing their purchases) then I guess Disney can do as they like in terms of enforcement. 
Guests will probably be able to step away from other guests who aren't wearing masks, but the cast must be empowered to step away as well.
Guests will probably be able to step away from other guests who aren't wearing masks, but the cast must be empowered to step away as well.
Prince-1
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Oh you're one of those fake media people. Lol!!
I guess all the medical experts who disagree with you must be buying into that misinformation that the media is spreading.
Prince-1
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Shhhhh. Pesty facts just get in the way of his argument. Remember, it's just like the flu.
disneygeek90
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Florida has broken it's own daily record of confirmed cases *checks notes* 3 times this week.
Now is not the time to be complacent. Sure, resume daily life if you feel comfortable to go out, but don't pretend the virus isn't still swarming through the country. Now more than ever is when people need to be aware of themselves and their surroundings.
jaklgreen
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So, what I am wondering is, if the "active" cases that they are showing includes those that are asymptomatic. Also, are they doing more testing to contribute to these spikes in cases? How accurate are these tests? I am really struggling to believe anything that we are seeing. There are just too many discrepancies and "facts" that are bent to show what they want to show. I would like to see actual reports from hospitals on how many people they have BECAUSE of covid, not adding those who are in for other reasons but have "tested positive". It is clear that there is media manipulation going on in places.
mergatroid
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The problem is if 'they' provided those facts would you accept them or just say "I am really struggling to believe anything that we are seeing" again.
I'm more playing devils advocate here but very often when people say they don't believe something, they say the same if presented the same facts through another source?
Just to add fuel to the fire, this is an example of everyone pushing global mask use is up against:
www.latimes.com
The Health Office for Orange County, California ended up resigning after getting attacked and a death threat after putting in place mandatory mask wearing. Her replacement quickly rescinded the order after pressure from the County Supervisors.
A revolt against wearing masks creates a new coronavirus danger as California reopens
Some residents are revolting against rules forcing them to wear masks in public, creating new coronavirus dangers
www.latimes.com
The Health Office for Orange County, California ended up resigning after getting attacked and a death threat after putting in place mandatory mask wearing. Her replacement quickly rescinded the order after pressure from the County Supervisors.
Model3 McQueen
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People are so tired of this thing.. if you wanna wear a mask, wear it (should probably wear gloves too). If you wanna require a mask in your business, make it a requirement. Otherwise, leave everyone else to do what they're comfortable with.
I'm on and off. I'll wear a mask in a crowded place, but won't if I can stay 6 feet away from people a majority of the time.
I'm on and off. I'll wear a mask in a crowded place, but won't if I can stay 6 feet away from people a majority of the time.
monykalyn
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And if Sneezer is INFECTIOUS! Why is this part always left out? If 10-25% of population infectious per positivity rate then the risk drops lower as 100% of population isn’t 100% highly infectious 100% of time never ending!