Disney Springs Mask Enforcement

[robhedin]

Why isn’t the LEGO store like this when I’m there?
There‘s always all those darn kids in the way!

Yeah. Sadly this was around the days that SpaceX did their manned launch. We were at the Space Center on and I explicitly didn't buy LEGO there knowing we were going to the big LEGO store at Disney Springs, only to find out that they had sold out of all of their NASA sets the day before.

 

[robhedin]

So I guess I like a bit of common sense in these scenarios. What's the purpose of the mask?? To slow the spread of covid 19. Social distancing is another way to do that. The guy you took a picture on the bench By himself has zero chance of infecting anyone. There is no one to infect.
I absolutely do the same thing, I always have a mask with me but if I am walking down the street and there is no one in sight I pull it down.
I guess I just see a manager going up to him demanding he put his mask on as being a you know what.
Just my opinion,

Just to clarify, it wasn't my pic originally, I just gave anecdotal thoughts on what I saw.

And, honestly, I couldn't care less if they enforce or not.

I tend to think it's up to each of us to manage our own risk and take action accordingly. eg: If I was worried about someone walking around without a mask, I can always take a few steps to the side; if I were in a high risk cohort, I might not go to places with large numbers of people with or without a mask.

 

[KTK]

You might want to look at that study, it's the June 1 article and if you look at it doesn't apply to the masks worn at Disney by guests that made them at home, the study was based on data from past experience by health care worker dealing with SARS and MERS not with Covid-19 which they specifically state was not tested. In short the study is conjecture based on other viruses which may or may not be more or less infectious than Covid-19. It was also further slanted because some of the study data was based on people wearing respirators not masks. They basically generalized the results to simply state masks help when the masks in the studies were a whole lot better than the ones you'll ever see at Disney. So don't think people running around wearing sock masks is going to give you much protection they aren't.

The study does include Covid-19, look again. N95 and surgical masks were part of the study and yes I see plenty of people wearing surgical masks. You cannot conclude "sock masks" aren't effective

You might want to look at that study, it's the June 1 article and if you look at it doesn't apply to the masks worn at Disney by guests that made them at home, the study was based on data from past experience by health care worker dealing with SARS and MERS not with Covid-19 which they specifically state was not tested. In short the study is conjecture based on other viruses which may or may not be more or less infectious than Covid-19. It was also further slanted because some of the study data was based on people wearing respirators not masks. They basically generalized the results to simply state masks help when the masks in the studies were a whole lot better than the ones you'll ever see at Disney. So don't think people running around wearing sock masks is going to give you much protection they aren't.

Covid-19 was included in the study, look again. Yes they looked at N95 and surgical masks. I see plenty of people walking around with these type of masks. Your last sentence about "sock masks," last time I checked the medical experts recommend them as a type of face mask that can help.

 

[Chi84]

The study does include Covid-19, look again. N95 and surgical masks were part of the study and yes I see plenty of people wearing surgical masks. You cannot conclude "sock masks" aren't effective
Covid-19 was included in the study, look again. Yes they looked at N95 and surgical masks. I see plenty of people walking around with these type of masks. Your last sentence about "sock masks," last time I checked the medical experts recommend them as a type of face mask that can help.

I think they were disputing your use of the percentages. Experts have recommended any type of face covering, but there’s no indication of how much they help - as another poster said the hope is that they stop liquid droplets from getting through.

 

[Chi84]

Just to clarify, it wasn't my pic originally, I just gave anecdotal thoughts on what I saw.

And, honestly, I couldn't care less if they enforce or not.

I tend to think it's up to each of us to manage our own risk and take action accordingly. eg: If I was worried about someone walking around without a mask, I can always take a few steps to the side; if I were in a high risk cohort, I might not go to places with large numbers of people with or without a mask.

Thanks for saying “couldn’t” care less. As Weird Al says, if you could care less it means you do care - at least a little.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

'Fully safe'? I don't thnk there is a place on earth where you are 'fully safe'.

The bathroom.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Just remember alcohol in the US kills almost 90,000 every year and you don't see the government or anyone else acting even remotely as concerned about alcohol. In the end when people get used to the deaths for the virus the world will go on as normal and it will just be another cause of death no greater or worse than cancer from smoking or being hit by a drunk driver.

Just remember alcohol in the US kills almost 90,000 every year and you don't see the government or anyone else acting even remotely as concerned about alcohol. In the end when people get used to the deaths for the virus the world will go on as normal and it will just be another cause of death no greater or worse than cancer from smoking or being hit by a drunk driver.

This is dangerously arrogant and not even the same thing. WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC. There is a killer virus out there killing people. A person can chose to drink or not drink and sometimes they kill themselves and others but no one makes a decision to get COVID-19. So we all have to do our part. Get off your high horse about booze and use some damn common sense.

 

[Kram Sacul]

 

[thomas998]

And it's just like the flu lol!! Oh brother!!

Pretty much... remember the latest research is showing it has mortality rate of 0.25% which is equivalent to a bad strain of the flu, like the 1968 Hong Kong strain.

 

[thomas998]

This is dangerously arrogant and not even the same thing. WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC. There is a killer virus out there killing people. A person can chose to drink or not drink and sometimes they kill themselves and others but no one makes a decision to get COVID-19. So we all have to do our part. Get off your high horse about booze and use some damn common sense.

When X kills the same as Y it makes sense to compare the two because the bottom line is just the number the die how they die doesn't really matter since in both instances it isn't from old age.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

I think its obvious what we have to do here. If we go out and protest the virus won't get us because only if we go out to protest does all major cities agree the virus can't get you so its ok to go out in thousands and protest. Hell, the mayor will join us!

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

When X kills the same as Y it makes sense to compare the two because the bottom line is just the number the die how they die doesn't really matter since in both instances it isn't from old age.

No you are very much wrong. Stop talking. Maybe sit the next couple of plays out there champ.

 

[Giss Neric]

People you don't need to over exaggerate. If there are little to no people near you or within your vicinity then I think it's okay to take it off for a minute or for a while. That picture you posted shows a couple walking with no one near them and a dude sitting on a bench with no one sitting beside him.

 

[thomas998]

The study does include Covid-19, look again. N95 and surgical masks were part of the study and yes I see plenty of people wearing surgical masks. You cannot conclude "sock masks" aren't effective
Covid-19 was included in the study, look again. Yes they looked at N95 and surgical masks. I see plenty of people walking around with these type of masks. Your last sentence about "sock masks," last time I checked the medical experts recommend them as a type of face mask that can help.

Covid-19 was include but it wasn't data from a randomized study it was more anecdotally based data which means pretty pointless. The valid data only existed from the other viruses.

And there is big difference between a n95 mask and a surgical mask. A lot of masks you see handed out in doctors' offices are low end surgical mask that provide only 63% protection but people think because they look like a surgical mask that they are n95's they aren't. And if you read the article carefully you would also have noted that they said you needed to use respirators for real protections as healthcare workers that were not using respirators were getting infected at a rate of about 20%... Now no one is going to go to Disney wearing a respirator because that would be nuts. If you decide to go just accept that you are going to get infected and move on. The bottom line is you don't instantly die just because you get the virus. I felt like crap for about a 1 and half weeks, and still can't smell much of anything but I didn't drop dead even though I'm old and have high blood pressure... If I believed the scaremongers on the news I would have been writing my last will, but I choose to look at reality not the hysteria driven folks on TV. Remember for every person that has died hundreds more didn't.

 

[Jon81uk]

I look at simple masks like using a tissue or handkerchief to cough into, except the tissue is covering your face permanently.

 

[thomas998]

No you are very much wrong. Stop talking. Maybe sit the next couple of plays out there champ.

Because you don't agree? Sorry but dead is dead whether from a drunk driver, cancer, lightning strike or the virus... if the same number die each year from any one of those things then the comparison is valid. You've just been brainwashed by the hysteria that the world is ending. There is simply no reason to shut down the world for a virus that only has a high mortality rate for the people that are very old or are already very sick. What the media always fails to tell the public is how many deaths were of the old, in NYC which is the worst hit, 73.6% of the deaths were people 64 years of age or older and 2/3rd of those were 75 years old or older. This is simply not nearly as bad as the people think. If they would be even more honest with the information you would probably find that most of those that died were in nursing homes but again they don't tell you the details all they do if throw out the total number dead and then run as many stories of young healthy people that have died as they can, knowing full well that most people will link the two stories together and their agenda for creating hysteria is complete. Well young healthy people can drop dead from a heart attack or aneurysm with no warning but it doesn't mean it is a common occurrence.

 

[Chi84]

I look at simple masks like using a tissue or handkerchief to cough into, except the tissue is covering your face permanently.

Right. And instead of throwing the tissue away and washing your hands, you pull it down to eat and then put it back over your face.

 

[robhedin]

And there is big difference between a n95 mask and a surgical mask. A lot of masks you see handed out in doctors' offices are low end surgical mask that provide only 63% protection but people think because they look like a surgical mask that they are n95's they aren't. And if you read the article carefully you would also have noted that they said you needed to use respirators for real protections as healthcare workers that were not using respirators were getting infected at a rate of about 20%... Now no one is going to go to Disney wearing a respirator because that would be nuts. If you decide to go just accept that you are going to get infected and move on. The bottom line is you don't instantly die just because you get the virus. I felt like crap for about a 1 and half weeks, and still can't smell much of anything but I didn't drop dead even though I'm old and have high blood pressure... If I believed the scaremongers on the news I would have been writing my last will, but I choose to look at reality not the hysteria driven folks on TV. Remember for every person that has died hundreds more didn't.

I'd put this a little differently, but the sentiment is the same-- I'd say: It's up to you to manage your own risk, by mingling with other people, there is a chance you will get infected. Luckily, unless you are in an at-risk cohort, the likelihood of requiring critical care or dying are low.

I too had it, I probably had it worse that you did (I'm always getting bronchitis, so...), I had difficulty breathing for a between 1 and 2 weeks, and was noticeably "sick" for a total of 5 weeks, but while I did go to the doctor, was not hospitalized and sent home to take routine care of myself.

 

[thomas998]

Why don't you go get a horse and go live in the mountains some place and don't bother anybody. You have the personality of a dead moth.

I'll take it from your childish reply that you finally realized you were wrong. Once the sting from being called out for being wrong goes away maybe you'll accept that wisdom and live a better life.

 

[thomas998]

People you don't need to over exaggerate. If there are little to no people near you or within your vicinity then I think it's okay to take it off for a minute or for a while. That picture you posted shows a couple walking with no one near then and a dude sitting on a bench with no one sitting beside him.

Except that if the masks were really necessary you would never want to take it off because you would never know when someone was going to pop up out of a storefront or from around a corner and then in the seconds it would take you to get the nasty little mask back on you'ld have already been infected. If you aren't going to wear it all the time then don't bother at all, not to mention everytime you start putting one one you're opening yourself up to infection from your hands brushing against your face.