'Disney Springs' - Downtown Disney expansion officially announced

dupac

dupac

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JenniferS said:
It's higher than that north of the border.
Works out to $4.75/gallon for the same gas that we send to you.
Much of the price is comprised of various gov't levels of taxes - which is, after all, the Canadian way.
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Holy moly. That's a buck fifty more than here.
 
dupac

dupac

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jt04 said:
He only goes to full serve stations. You wouldn't expect he would touch a gas nozzle would you?
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If Ryan Gosling can pump his own gas, I'm sure the Spirit can...

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the.dreamfinder

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jt04 said:
He only goes to full serve stations. You wouldn't expect he would touch a gas nozzle would you?
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http://www.csmonitor.com/Environmen...-prices-why-the-long-term-forecasts-are-wrong

Here's why: The full cost of producing new oil for the 50 largest publicly traded oil companies in the world is $92 a barrel according to Bernstein Research. While average costs are lower because they include previously discovered conventional oil which is cheaper and easier to produce, the Bernstein report challenges the notion that new technologies will lead to cheaper oil. Those technologies including hydraulic fracturing will make it possible to extract previously uneconomic oil resources--but only at very high and rising costs
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Cosmic Commando

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I'm skeptical about HSR... I think if it became popular, it would be too tempting of a target for terrorism. The air network is very flexible and resilient. 9/11 was absolutely awful, but did it affect the air system? No. Air travel was shut down for three(?) days while we all caught our collective breath and tried to figure out what was going on, but air travel itself was really unaffected. Even if you wiped a major airport like JFK completely off the map, the system would deal. Say there were a HSR line from Boston to Miami that replaced a lot of the air travel that currently takes place up and down the East coast: Boston, NYC, Philly, Baltimore/DC, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa, Miami. You simply cannot protect 1200 miles of track; take out any one piece, and travel will be suspended for weeks or months for expensive repairs.
 
dupac

dupac

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raven24 said:
Heh. Gas is over five bucks a gallon on this one corner in my city. I live in Los Angeles, if you're wondering.
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I've never seen gas over $4. I think it hit $4 once in 2008/2009 and everyone went bat crap crazy and the prices went back down in a week.

Took a road trip last week for spring break and went to Shreveport, LA. We went to some outdoor shopping area called "The Boardwalk." It was okay and I couldn't help but think of DS while we walked through. All I bought was some fudge at Bass Pro. The highlight was eating dinner at an Irish pub, Dan O'Brien's. It was 3/17... It had great atmosphere. I think that's the key to DS being successful. Adult-oriented entertainment. Not shopping.
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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Cosmic Commando said:
I'm skeptical about HSR... I think if it became popular, it would be too tempting of a target for terrorism. The air network is very flexible and resilient. 9/11 was absolutely awful, but did it affect the air system? No. Air travel was shut down for three(?) days while we all caught our collective breath and tried to figure out what was going on, but air travel itself was really unaffected. Even if you wiped a major airport like JFK completely off the map, the system would deal. Say there were a HSR line from Boston to Miami that replaced a lot of the air travel that currently takes place up and down the East coast: Boston, NYC, Philly, Baltimore/DC, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa, Miami. You simply cannot protect 1200 miles of track; take out any one piece, and travel will be suspended for weeks or months for expensive repairs.
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Terrorists strike where people are. Terrorists don't live in an impenetrable bubble, Intelligence agencies closely watch for and handle threats from new and established groups.

EDIT: Acela, while not true HSR, is very popular here in the Northeast Corridor. I've ridden on it multiple times and it's a lot more relaxing than driving on the interstate to get to the big cities like Baltimore, Washington, or Boston.
 
lazyboy97o

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Cosmic Commando said:
I'm skeptical about HSR... I think if it became popular, it would be too tempting of a target for terrorism. The air network is very flexible and resilient. 9/11 was absolutely awful, but did it affect the air system? No. Air travel was shut down for three(?) days while we all caught our collective breath and tried to figure out what was going on, but air travel itself was really unaffected. Even if you wiped a major airport like JFK completely off the map, the system would deal. Say there were a HSR line from Boston to Miami that replaced a lot of the air travel that currently takes place up and down the East coast: Boston, NYC, Philly, Baltimore/DC, Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa, Miami. You simply cannot protect 1200 miles of track; take out any one piece, and travel will be suspended for weeks or months for expensive repairs.
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I think there is this prevailing misconception in this country that [high speed] rail is supposed to be a replacement and that is not the case. It's an additional layer in a layered transit system. If a major line was taken out, then the other rail lines and air system fill the void. I don't think intercity rail is enough of a spectacle to make for a good terrorism target. Rail attacks seem to focus on urban systems like subways. They're nearby and can inflict damage on not just the train, but also the station and maybe some of the surroundings.
 
Cosmic Commando

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lazyboy97o said:
People don't Like Disney tracking them inside Walt Disney World. It'll be a cold day in hell when Google's technology leaves their hands without it serving their insatiable appetite for data.
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I think Google would be more than happy to develop a technology and license it to automakers without worrying about turning every car into a Street View car, for example. Companies like to get paid.
 
Cosmic Commando

Cosmic Commando

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lazyboy97o said:
I think there is this prevailing misconception in this country that [high speed] rail is supposed to be a replacement and that is not the case. It's an additional layer in a layered transit system. If a major line was taken out, then the other rail lines and air system fill the void. I don't think intercity rail is enough of a spectacle to make for a good terrorism target. Rail attacks seem to focus on urban systems like subways. They're nearby and can inflict damage on not just the train, but also the station and maybe some of the surroundings.
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But HSR is so expensive that there isn't going to be a backup line... unless you're talking about winging it over to Chicago from DC to get to Florida. Or running on the normal lines assuming they're compatible... which isn't HSR then.
 
Cosmic Commando

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the.dreamfinder said:
Terrorist strike where people are. Terrorists don't live in an impenetrable bubble, Intelligence agencies closely watch for and handle threats for new and established threats.

EDIT: Acela, while not true HSR, is very popular here in the Northeast Corridor. I've ridden on it multiple times and it's a lot more relaxing than driving on the interstate to get to the big cities like Baltimore, Washington, or Boston.
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A train derailing at 150 MPH because it hits a gap in track would certainly be deadly and attention-grabbing, although I'm sure there would be safety systems monitoring the integrity of the track. Still, just disabling the track would cause economic hardship, and that's enough for some people.
 
dupac

dupac

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raven24 said:
Off topic: I'm curious, what is the meaning behind your username?
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A family nickname of mine growing up was Doo. As a teenager some of my friends found out about it and started calling me that as well. I am also a pretty big ham and do just about anything ridiculous to make people laugh. So one day I was pretending to rap and be a gangster and a friend said "you're so gangster Doo" to which I replied "That's why they call me Dupac." It stuck.
 
the.dreamfinder

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Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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dupac said:
A family nickname of mine growing up was Doo. As a teenager some of my friends found out about it and started calling me that as well. I am also a pretty big ham and do just about anything ridiculous to make people laugh. So one day I was pretending to rap and be a gangster and a friend said "you're so gangster Doo" to which I replied "That's why they call me Dupac." It stuck.
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That's a funny story.:D Funny how names just stick. My dad started calling me "mommy" when I was really small because I look a lot like my grandma. He never calls me by my first name... Just "mom" or "mommy".
 

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