Disney Springs construction begins

[the.dreamfinder]

Can't publicly ... however the more obvious choice is Sega Sammy who have game centres across Japan and still produce new arcade titles ... that is if Disney wants to ... but I would suspect Disney will close it after Disney Springs opens.

I was aware of Club Sega in Japan and I believe that they recently built something in Dubai that seems similar in scope to the revised Marvel entertainment location. That being said, DisneyQuest is on a large piece of land where you could easily build restaurants. I would imagine being right next to Cirque du Soliel would be a good selling point to potential partners (Dinner & Show).

Speaking of SEGA, do you think the Wii U has entered Dreamcast territory? From a business perspective, not creative.

 

[Sped2424]

I was aware of Club Sega in Japan and I believe that they recently built something in Dubai that seems similar in scope to the revised Marvel entertainment location. That being said, DisneyQuest is on a large piece of land where you could easily build restaurants. I would imagine being right next to Cirque du Soliel would be a good selling point to potential partners (Dinner & Show).

Speaking of SEGA, do you think the Wii U has entered Dreamcast territory? From a business perspective, not creative.

I think they released the Wii u far earlier thanthey should have, without the software to back the hardware up the sales are going to suffer hugely, but if the 3ds is any indication Im sure that once nintendo starts releasing first party games and quality third party the system will then pick up much like the 3ds did which in sales right now is doing extremely well so I don't think its entering dreamcast territory.

 

[SirLink]

I was aware of Club Sega in Japan and I believe that they recently built something in Dubai that seems similar in scope to the revised Marvel entertainment location. That being said, DisneyQuest is on a large piece of land where you could easily build restaurants. I would imagine being right next to Cirque du Soliel would be a good selling point to potential partners (Dinner & Show).

Speaking of SEGA, do you think the Wii U has entered Dreamcast territory? From a business perspective, not creative.

Not quite because internally at that stage SEGA was hurting both from a creativity and financial POV - and didn't have those evergreen IP like Mario Kart, SSB, Mario(3D), NSMB, Animal Crossing, WiiFit, etc. Which SEGA didn't have. It is hard to predict until after this year with a generational refresh happening ... by 5th of January it will be easier to tell if we are talking Dreamcast part deux.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

I think they released the Wii u far earlier thanthey should have, without the software to back the hardware up the sales are going to suffer hugely, but if the 3ds is any indication Im sure that once nintendo starts releasing first party games and quality third party the system will then pick up much like the 3ds did which in sales right now is doing extremely well so I don't think its entering dreamcast territory.

The thing that really killed the Dreamcast was the lack of DVD. However, Sony had no intention of letting SEGA have the first DVD console on the market (Dreamcast came out a year before the PS2 in most markets).

I personally think the GamePad was a bad idea. Kinect, however imperfect its execution, is the future of motion control and in many ways embodies what Nintendo set out to do with the original Wii; have people actively play games together. The GamePad sorta goes against that because you've got one person at this solitary GamePad passively interacting with the group. I do agree with you that they should have waited so they would have more of their big name franchises available at or near launch. Also, as shown by CoD Ghosts and Madden, devs and publishers would've preferred an x86 box that is easy to develop for.

 

[SirLink]

The thing that really killed the Dreamcast was the lack of DVD. However, Sony had no intention of letting SEGA have the first DVD console on the market (Dreamcast came out a year before the PS2 in most markets).

I personally think the GamePad was a bad idea. Kinect, however imperfect its execution, is the future of motion control and in many ways embodies what Nintendo set out to do with the original Wii; have people actively play games together. The GamePad sorta goes against that because you've got one person at this solitary GamePad passively interacting with the group. I do agree with you that they should have waited so they would have more of their big name franchises available at or near launch. Also, as shown by CoD Ghosts and Madden, devs and publishers would've preferred an x86 box that is easy to develop for.

I just gotta point this out DVD playback wasn't the issue.

 

[JEANYLASER]

I would like to see Disney Comics Store in the Disney Springs.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sega also suffered from years of competing interests between Sega of Japan and Sega of America that grew out of the phenomenal success of the Sega Genesis in the United States. The company was tearing itself apart from the inside.

I would like to see Disney Comics Store in the Disney Springs.

Probably can't happen with Disney moving its comics over to Marvel.

 

[JEANYLASER]

agreed! What about GameStop in the Disney Springs.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

agreed! What about GameStop in the Disney Springs.

There is a reason why the Virgin Megastore, which had a nice video game section, isn't there anymore.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

How about an iTunes Store. It would be about the size of a DVC Kiosk. They would put the music on your phone/iPod and burn a disc complete with printing the liner notes book and cover. You walk away with it on your phone AND a Disc in hand for $15.

 

[Tim_4]

How about an iTunes Store. It would be about the size of a DVC Kiosk. They would put the music on your phone/iPod and burn a disc complete with printing the liner notes book and cover. You walk away with it on your phone AND a Disc in hand for $15.

You're in the right direction. Think bigger.

 

[djlaosc]

There is a reason why the Virgin Megastore, which had a nice video game section, isn't there anymore.

Didn't the Virgin Megastore in Downtown Disney close because every Virgin Megastore closed in the US (and Canada, UK, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Ireland, Turkey, Australia, Japan)?

HMV would have been a good replacement for it (but that closed in the US before Virgin did), I would guess the nearest thing left is f.y.e.? (although according to Wikipedia, they've closed over 150 stores since 2009.)

 

[djlaosc]

You're in the right direction. Think bigger.

There's going to be an Apple store, isn't there?

 

[Tim_4]

Merchandise is already sold at Walt Disney World. Just can't be a big, grand, dedicated Marvel store.

I think it can be, in Downtown Disney. I'm no legal scholar but wouldn't DTD be an area where 70% of revenues are from food and beverage? These areas are specifically carved out of the definition of a themed area as outlined in the clause that @unkadug shared. I think.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I think it can be, in Downtown Disney. I'm no legal scholar but wouldn't DTD be an area where 70% of revenues are from food and beverage? These areas are specifically carved out of the definition of a themed area as outlined in the clause that @unkadug shared. I think.

I am not a lawyer either, but there is the specific prohibition on the store concept (Marvel Action Universe) anywhere within 60 miles of Islands of Adventure.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

You're in the right direction. Think bigger.

Yeah, I have heard that there was going to be an Apple Store. But I don't think even at an Apple store you can buy music OR get a Disc in hand.

 

[djlaosc]

Yeah, I have heard that there was going to be an Apple Store. But I don't think even at an Apple store you can buy music OR get a Disc in hand.

It'll work as a free version of DisneyQuest though...

 

[WDWDad13]

There's going to be an Apple store, isn't there?

I hope not to be honest... Apple is running out of the wow factor juice

 

[wdwfan4ver]

The thing that really killed the Dreamcast was the lack of DVD. However, Sony had no intention of letting SEGA have the first DVD console on the market (Dreamcast came out a year before the PS2 in most markets).

I disagree with you saying the thing that really killed the Dreamcast was the lack of DVD. Sega had money problems because of the mistakes they made.

Sega had a very bad reputation of abandoning their game system a short time after get releases. That meant consumers didn't have a lot of trust with Sega besides not having some 3rd party companies.

I went to a shopko in 2000 and I heard a store employee telling a consumer not to buy a Dreamcast because Sega would be abandoning it 2 years after it gets released matter of fact.

Here is the proof:
Sega CD was released in Nov. 1992 in North America and was discontinued in late 1995.
32x was released in November 1994 in North America, but was discontinued in late 1995 with the final game being in early 1996.
Sega Saturn was released in North America in May of 1995, but Sega of America announced the Saturn was being discontinued at 1997 E3 for the Dreamcast.
Sega Nomad was released Nov. 1995 and discontinued in 1997.

Those things shaken consumers confidence in Sega as a game console maker. While the Sega Genesis was a very good seller, what Sega did starting with the Sega CD caused people to lose faith in Sega. Sega made a series of bad decisions including releasing the Sega Saturn in May 1995 in North American instead of September 1995. Sega releasing the Saturn Early was something retailers in North American didn't expect at the time and 3rd party developers wasn't happy with Sega doing that either.

When the Sega Dreamcast was released in 1999 for North American I didn't buy one. I didn't because I didn't trust as a game console company due to their history of discontinuing systems for 2 or 3 years after they were release on the market. Game systems are supposed to stay on the market for 4 to 5 years at least.

 

[Beholder]

It's really too bad about DTD not being able to build a Marvel themed store, but I do hope they take this opportunity to create a one of a kind, Star Wars Universe type store. Perhaps even a Star Wars themed restaurant combined with a store. Movies, toys, models, art work, posters, and all the other billion things that Lucas licensed out, could fill the shelves along with (in a perfect world) unique merchandise available only at DTD. I mean Disney Springs. Forgive me if this has been discussed, I've been on and off lately, and I know it's been talked about at DHS, but I think in a public area like DS, it'd be a sure fire winner. They could do the same thing with Pixar, but I think Star Wars would be such an obvious success, I really hope this happens.

I can dream, right?