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Disney Skyliner shutdown and evacuation - October 6 2019
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subject appears to be poorly engaging in overt counter-intelligence
disney4life2008
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I was just at Hollywood studios and the gondolas were working perfectly. Ironically I was going to stand in line after fantasmic but something told me to just come home. Glad I did. While they look fun something just seems risky about them.
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Indeed. I remember during construction and testing the line was something like.. "Multiple back-ups for power, including generators." Obviously a power failure of any kind should not, by design, cause a collision. I also had a distinct impression that any sort of aerial evac was planned to be a 'last resort' contingency. Something you train for, but hopefully never have to do. Considering the time, money and attention this system received from both Disney and Doppelmayer, this is not good for either company.
Indeed. I remember during construction and testing the line was something like.. "Multiple back-ups for power, including generators." Obviously a power failure of any kind should not, by design, cause a collision. I also had a distinct impression that any sort of aerial evac was planned to be a 'last resort' contingency. Something you train for, but hopefully never have to do. Considering the time, money and attention this system received from both Disney and Doppelmayer, this is not good for either company.
HoldenC
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Of course I do. It doesn't take rocket science to realize in a few months this will be forgotten news; something only the people who are anti-Skyliner will relentlessly remind us about.
Rich Brownn
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Except when you get a 600v off (which happened a few times when I worked there). In fact we had one time when people were stuck on the monorails for almost 2 hours, in July. And guess what? When there's 600V off there's no air. You can't tow because the trains are in the way. All you can do is... wait. And yeah, it was bad. (I was thankful I was at CC and not in the train!)
That’s just insulting to intelligence, counter or otherwise....
flynnibus
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My long-winded justification was explaining that you can be technically correct while still not addressing the elephant in the room. You probably need to study that idea a bit more... because clearly you're under their spell.
In what universe is ride vehicles stacked up on top of each other and derailing during normal operations NOT an incident to you?
Kram Sacul
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- In the Parks
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Stuck in the air for 3 hours. How could anyone recover from that?
Casper Gutman
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Think of it less as lying and more as framing reality in the best possible light through careful choice of words and tone and the selective omission or shading of facts. Every corporation, government, and politician does it. Disney does it a lot.
Also, sometimes they just lie.
Animaniac93-98
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Out of curiosity, how would they know from the ground what passengers are in what cabins to make that kind of decision?
Not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand how the system operates in an emergency. Is there a way for people inside the cabins to call or alert someone?
KYmickey
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I find that hard to believe. I've spent many years in the fire service and any truck company worth their salt would have the bucket up to the cabin in less than 5 minutes after their arrival. Subsequent trips for additional people would be even faster!
I was at EPCOT this evening. We passed by IG around 8:30 and the line wasn’t moving. Couldn’t see the station but there was one car on the line right in front of the station. About 20 minutes later, we were headed back towards Tomorrowland and passed by IG and I noticed that car was no longer there, so I have a vibe they rolled that car manually into the station to unload it. We were actually thinking of riding it this evening and the only reason we didn’t was because it looked down from the distance.
Animaniac93-98
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Spoken like someone not stuck in a suspended cabin for 3 hours.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Generator cut-over is not instantaneous. Normally it's a manual process to switch over too because of that dead-zone inbetween. Systems that need no-break use battery and/or kinetic systems to store energy to use until the generators are online and up to power levels to run the system. From what we saw from construction... Skyliner just has generators.
Rich Brownn
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Fatal, many. Major accidents... 3 years. (Red and blue collided spectacularly in the Magic Kingdom station. The driver was impaled by the annunciator panel and lost his lower intestine in surgery. Half of each train was destroyed -- fortunately it was just ramping up and the trains had few people in them.
WDW Monorail Accident Page
A list of accidents, crashes, fire, and mishaps during the years of operation of the Walt Disney World
www.bigfloridacountry.com
Rider
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We're just lucky the Skyliner isn't Chernobyl...
flynnibus
Premium Member
There are call boxes in each cabin. If someone gets on the radio and tells the operator they are having a heart attack, etc... Disney can't risk ignoring people. So maybe those people relayed something that made them priority... we don't know..