Disney Skyliner shutdown and evacuation - October 6 2019

[jrhwdw]

One of my first responder source messaged me saying the system lost electrical power prior to the crash at the Riviera. The loss of power resulted in the cabs impacting.

Why the lost of power if true??
We all agree Safety is top priority but this Can't close forever after only a week can it?!?!?!?!

Can't WDW EVER, EVER get GOOD NEWS?!?!?!?

 

[monothingie]

If it's running tomorrow... I'll still use it tho

Optimistic. Given the nature of the accident it may require a full investigation. Clearly a power failure shouldn’t result in this outcome.

 

[flynnibus]

A few stops here and there isnt a failure, but nice job trying to paint a false narrative. Tonight's fiasco, yes. A huge set back but certainly nothing to cry foul over. Nothing was damaged, nobody was injured (unless there is a sue happy American onboard who will concoct some traumatic survival story), itll all be resolve, and the Skyliner will continue to be a much better system than the garbage monorails.

Hey, welcome back from the future! Got next week's lottery numbers for me?

 

[Mouse Trap]

Yeah, but Disney's PR spin on this has been foul from the start. Can't take anything they say at face value right now.. it's Spin Control.

Regardless of the trigger of the incident... vehicles collided during operation with guests on board. By all common sense measures.. that's an accident.

The systems are designed to handle power failures... that process failed here in a pretty spectacular way. If you were riding in that blue cabin... no way you avoided being dumped into the opposite side of the gondola.

I love how no matter what the situation - so many people conclude with “Disney is lying”. Ahh humanity.

 

[CAV]

I wonder what type of compensation Disney could possibly give these poor guests for going through this. Can you imagine only have a few nights and having your whole night ruined by being stuck in the air and being evacuated.

I hope each and every one of them hit Disney for the max AND add a parking fee.

 

[HoldenC]

Hey, welcome back from the future! Got next week's lottery numbers for me?

Let me ask Marty

 

[Casper Gutman]

A few stops here and there isnt a failure, but nice job trying to paint a false narrative. Tonight's fiasco, yes. A huge set back but certainly nothing to cry foul over. Nothing was damaged, nobody was injured (unless there is a sue happy American onboard who will concoct some traumatic survival story), itll all be resolve, and the Skyliner will continue to be a much better system than the garbage monorails.

You don’t know any of this.

There is no “false narrative.” I was talking only about tonite.

I love that the poster named after Holden Caulfield is a huge fan of the status quo and the big corporation.

 

[Space Mountain]

A few stops here and there isnt a failure, but nice job trying to paint a false narrative. Tonight's fiasco, yes. A huge set back but certainly nothing to cry foul over. Nothing was damaged, nobody was injured (unless there is a sue happy American onboard who will concoct some traumatic survival story), itll all be resolve, and the Skyliner will continue to be a much better system than the garbage monorails.

So in simpler terms and less words, it will be open at 9am tomorrow.

 

[Steph15251]

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The monorail ran for how many decades before the fatal accident?

not fatal but the monorail had an accident in 1974

 

[Ojo4]

Optimistic. Given the nature of the accident it may require a full investigation. Clearly a power failure shouldn’t result in this outcome.

It will probably be a few days just to get the replacement emergency kits overnighted, let alone the investigation

 

[CAV]

So unsurprising to see the haters of this system crawling out of their parent's basement this evening. I'm very sad to see this happen and I hope they're able to figure out the cause. The Skyliner is the greatest thing to arrive at WDW in the last 5 or so years. If the monorail can bounce back after the death of a CM, this will as well.

Well, aren't we the self righteous one tonight?

 

[GusEzra]

The Rivera station is more of a pass through station, IE you only have to get off if you are stopping there that would explain why there is no ECV loop but seems poor design if they have to stop the line for ECVs at that station.

 

[flynnibus]

I love how no matter what the situation - so many people conclude with “Disney is lying”. Ahh humanity.

Try re-reading what I said. The job of PR is to control the message. They can answer truthfully and still be withholding the true extent of things. Their job is to shape the perception of things - That's what they are paid to do.

Disney was telling all the major news outlets it was just a shutdown due to power... meanwhile all those same outlets were posting the photos of the evacs underway and the cabins stacked up in the station.

Disney PR meanwhile...

 

[DisneyJeff]

Yeah, but Disney's PR spin on this has been foul from the start. Can't take anything they say at face value right now.. it's Spin Control.

Regardless of the trigger of the incident... vehicles collided during operation with guests on board. By all common sense measures.. that's an accident.

The systems are designed to handle power failures... that process failed here in a pretty spectacular way. If you were riding in that blue cabin... no way you avoided being dumped into the opposite side of the gondola.

We’re there any reports of anyone being in the cabins that were involved in the collision at the Riviera station? Any injuries? I’m not saying that you are wrong, just looking for clarification.

 

[larryz]

One of my first responder source messaged me saying the system lost electrical power prior to the crash at the Riviera. The loss of power resulted in the cabs impacting.

Where's the safety cut-out that stops the whole line when one station loses power?

 

[flynnibus]

We’re there any reports of anyone being in the cabins that were involved in the collision at the Riviera station? Any injuries? I’m not saying that you are wrong, just looking for clarification.

Nothing concrete either way at this point.

I didn't mean to suggest guests were in those cabins (tho it is highly likely) - only that the skyliner was operating with guests onboard (vs during maintenance, etc)

 

[natatomic]

Won’t be the last time I say this tonight: Cars crash everyday, trains derail, planes fail, monorails crash and so on. No one has stopped using any of the above and it’s not going to stop the gondolas either.

In fact I’m sure some huge % of people who visit WDW in the future will never know this even happened. Countless times I’ve been on a monorail and have heard “someone died on this once” and people in the cabin shamelessly dismiss it as a rumor...

My husband has worked at WDW for over five years, and he just learned about the accident last month when I told him about it. I was shocked!

 

[disney4life2008]

Just to give you an idea of how unbelievably complicated it is to evacuate a single cabin, here's a video. According to Twitter its taken a single fire engine about 20 minutes to get the lift up to a single cabin. Assume they have secure everyone in the cherry picker, slowly lower it back down, disembark, and go back up for the rest of the cabin. Then they have to retract the stabilizers on the truck, reposition the truck for the next cabin and repeat. Fire truck cherry pickers are not fast. This is going to be a long night.

Aww *** nah I'm am straight

 

[VaderTron]

I wonder what type of compensation Disney could possibly give these poor guests for going through this. Can you imagine only have a few nights and having your whole night ruined by being stuck in the air and being evacuated.

Disney will give them the privilege of buying a limited edition "I was rescued from the gondolas" button for $19.99. T-shirts, mugs, and magnets also available for purchase.

 

[Mouse Trap]

Try re-reading what I said. The job of PR is to control the message. They can answer truthfully and still be withholding the true extent of things. Their job is to shape the perception of things - That's what they are paid to do.

Disney was telling all the major news outlets it was just a shutdown due to power... meanwhile all those same outlets were posting the photos of the evacs underway and the cabins stacked up in the station.

Disney PR meanwhile...
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Or they could be telling the truth? Not saying they are/aren’t. I’m just amazed that so many people would rather accuse Disney of lying because that is more or less what you and others are doing (no matter what your long-winded, justification of your previous post said).