There were Skyliner CMS there around midday when this pic was shot, so I wouldn't read much into that.
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Disney Skyliner shutdown and evacuation - October 6 2019
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Yert3
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Disney has always been a joke when it comes to letting people know what is going on. A few months ago, I was on a monorail that stalled in the TTC for about ten minutes in morning rush. No explanation given. Not even an apology when we eventually did start to get going. Monorails are stalling frequently now for some reason. I found this comment on reddit a few days ago who told a story similar to mine.
Vacationeer
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An then they stayed for the fireworks.
durangojim
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No to sound callous but 10 minutes isn't that long. I can understand the frustration and agree that something should have been said, but I think many who have been to WDW have been stuck on something (ride or transportation) for 10 minutes or more at some point in their trips.
durangojim
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I have heard because of the great response to what happened over the weekend, Disney is now offering the Scrumptious Skyliner Dessert show where they provide some deserts in the cabs and then stall the lines in the air while the fireworks go on at DHS and EPCOT. Apparently this weekend was just a trial that went wrong but because of overwhelming guest response it will be offered soon.
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Minthorne
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50% of the population will always be less alive than the other 50% ?
So in incidents like this, what exactly is the protocol? I assume once a CM mashes the E-Stop button they must remain hands off except to maybe give a safety spiel before calling management, Reedy Creek, etc. So we wait for them to arrive. So who's in charge then? Is there the Disney equivalent of an incident commander? Obviously the priority is disembarking all the guests safely. It seems to me that the Gondola system as laid out presents one of the most difficult and potentially dangerous evac procedures of anything else on property, given the requirement for specialized lifts and rappelling gear combined with the relative inaccessibility and sheer number of vehicles. Clearly it would be preferred to offload in the stations assuming the system can be safely operated. If I understand what happened, it seems in this case Reedy Creek responded to emergency calls which prevented the ride system from being evaluated and restarted which would have led to a much quicker unloading of the whole system. Just wondering who wins out when the mechanics get on the radio to say we can restart only to be told that RC has guys on ropes hanging from one the cabins so we have to wait.
Then again, maybe this falls under some OSHA or NTSB guidelines that you have to preserve the scene to collect evidence, etc before clearing everything out?
Then again, maybe this falls under some OSHA or NTSB guidelines that you have to preserve the scene to collect evidence, etc before clearing everything out?
Vacationeer
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Skyliner Party will roll out with a $49 price tag and a fabulous experience. After the google algorithms have all those details and positive reviews linked on the top 10 pages, the event will become $99, crowded and less offerings included.
Yert3
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You’re right, ten minutes isn’t long. I just find it strange they wouldn’t say a single thing. I’ve been stuck only 2 minutes before and got an explanation.
durangojim
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You're right, that is strange.
trainplane3
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Don't ride it now then. Dwell time for the monorails have gotten hilariously long in the station since my visit in July. It's been mentioned by others in the know that dwell time has been increased for unspecified reasons. I was there last week and they now sit in the station for what feels like at least 10 minutes with nothing else going on.
Yert3
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Yup. When I say they “didn’t say a thing” I mean they said nothing at all. Not the standard “please remain seated” or “we’ll be going in a few minutes.” Nothing. It was really weird.
Disney Analyst
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The hyperbole spewing after this incident is just turning this thread into a toxic wasteland. Every poster that was going on about the Skyliner over the last few years were clearly just waiting for something to happen so they could all start foaming at the mouth in unison.
This incident was clearly not communicated properly during the evac/stop to the guests trapped. Disney can do better, and should do better, and I hope will do better.
BUT,
Gondola's are generally reliable, safe, and an efficient means of travel. The statistical odds of this sort of incident are extremely low, but it happened, and Disney will fix and learn from this.
If you don't like the gondolas, don't ride them.
Kbye.
This incident was clearly not communicated properly during the evac/stop to the guests trapped. Disney can do better, and should do better, and I hope will do better.
BUT,
Gondola's are generally reliable, safe, and an efficient means of travel. The statistical odds of this sort of incident are extremely low, but it happened, and Disney will fix and learn from this.
If you don't like the gondolas, don't ride them.
Kbye.
ImperfectPixie
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Thanks. I always forget about that, lol. It took me a hot minute, but I remembered to try my phone.
ImperfectPixie
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One could argue that it's dangerous for them not to add numbers to the bottoms of the cars. If this weekend's guest had been having a stroke or heart attack, every minute wasted looking for the cabin they were in could have made a huge difference.
Vacationeer
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"Be responsible for yourself! If there's a chance you'll have a negative reaction then don't go on the Skyliner!"
"Stop preparing yourself with information to judge if you'd be OK with certain scenarios and procedures."
Can't win, lol.
"Stop preparing yourself with information to judge if you'd be OK with certain scenarios and procedures."
Can't win, lol.
Vacationeer
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Yeah, I don't think large numbers on the bottoms of gondolas would cause any kind of alarm. There are clear numbers on all mass transit, really pretty much all transit for that matter. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Then why didn't they add them to begin with? Just an oversight? It never occurred to them?
It's Disney world, not the real world.
Vacationeer
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There's many things that never occurred to them, until it became obvious in hindsight. lol
I'd think it was obvious that people would abuse access to emergency packs so I'd plan for that by putting a warning that opening it will trigger an emergency alert.
Kinda of like fire exit doors that warn an alarm will go off but doesn't really, they just don't want people using that back door.
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