Disney Skyliner shutdown and evacuation - October 6 2019

[larryz]

Fascinating incident occurred with our merch bag we were carrying on this trip. One of our bags dropped, and the only piece of merch that broke was the Skyliner coffee mug. Everything else escaped unscathed.

#Blame_flyerjab

 

[TP2000]

The Pop line has been moving for the past hour at half speed. No staff or guests in the station.

Interesting. Are they pulling cabins off the cable and into the storage yards at Caribbean Beach, or keeping all the cabins on the line and just slowly cycling it 'round and 'round?

I imagine there's a lot of testing to be done once they figure out what happened.

 

[Incomudro]

But I don't pay thousands of dollars to leave my house. sure there are extremes on both sides of the situation. I have a family member who will now never set foot on this. It might be overreacting to you. But for someone with anxiety issues, being trapped in a high spot with no way out, for 3hrs is a bad situation. This whole incident is amplified because it's Disney. People expect things might not go as planned. But no one really would expect that stepping onto the skyliner, they could be stuck for 3hrs.

And they don't expect new things to fail.
Saying "Things happen, things break." in reference here is like telling a person who's new car just left them stranded; "Things happen, things break."
Had this situation happened a couple of years in, the story would be a bit different.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Interesting. Are they pulling cabins off the cable and into the storage yards at Caribbean Beach, or keeping all the cabins on the line and just slowly cycling it 'round and 'round?

I imagine there's a lot of testing to be done once they figure out what happened.

Just going around.

 

[larryz]

Convection - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Homes were designed to welcome breezes, induce airflows and avoid the highest sun exposures

Just like... ventilation in a gondola is designed to allow cooler air to enter at the bottom, and leave at the top... and how energy blocking glass is used to block the sun exposure

So, if the outside air at the bottom of the gondola is 92.3 degrees, and the thermal load produced by 7 angry, tired, frustrated guests is 2,972 BTUh, how much will the internal temperature rise given zero cross breeze, full sun, and malfunctioning communications boxes?

 

[MisterPenguin]

People are claiming Disney "cheaped out" on the gondola system.

So... proof? How are any of you backing up that claim?

Our Trusted Insiders have said WDW was spending way more than needed for this system, so, burden of proof is on the accusers.

 

[MisterPenguin]

So, if the outside air at the bottom of the gondola is 92.3 degrees, and the thermal load produced by 7 angry, tired, frustrated guests is 2,972 BTUh, how much will the internal temperature rise given zero cross breeze, full sun, and malfunctioning communications boxes?

One degree. It's been measured.

 

[flynnibus]

So, if the outside air at the bottom of the gondola is 92.3 degrees, and the thermal load produced by 7 angry, tired, frustrated guests is 2,972 BTUh, how much will the internal temperature rise given zero cross breeze, full sun, and malfunctioning communications boxes?

I already answered that earlier in the thread... no one is paying me to do the model and I doubt you could afford me

And as I said before multiple times... the biggest concern is the people in the cabin... not the sun. But everyone wants to keep bringing up babies dying in locked cars in the sun.. so that's what the response was about. Retorting the solar energy problem.

Heat generation inside the cabin is a separate discussion.. addressed only by the breathability of the cabins and their vent design.

 

[larryz]

Assuming they did specific cab evacuations based on priority of emergency for the evacuation (those needing immediate assistance) the process of finding the affected cab would be a nightmare, even on the short lines.

Similar to if you experienced an emergency on the highway. Where are you? IDK I’m on the Route 80, Direction? Where? Not sure. Mile Marker? What’s that...

Of course, it's not rocket science to put a strobe light on the bottom of each gondola that activates when someone inside hits the panic button...

 

[larryz]

One degree. It's been measured.

Yeah, but that was with FUNCTIONING communications boxes.


Anyone know if they're going to offer the gondola evacuation vehicles as part of the Skyliner play set?

 

[homerdance]

I hope you are talking about the person I responded to and not me.

Absolutely. You're full of facts, and use your facts to promote what is actually happening.

 

[danlb_2000]

Of course, it's not rocket science to put a strobe light on the bottom of each gondola that activates when someone inside hits the panic button...

But how many people are going to hit the button unnecessarily?

 

[carolina_yankee]

Do we know the actual timeline? @Lift Blog said on his blog that the first tweet went out at 8:45 pm. From posts here and elsewhere, it sounds like everyone was fully offloaded around 11 pm.

Dirk

 

[flynnibus]

Of course, it's not rocket science to put a strobe light on the bottom of each gondola that activates when someone inside hits the panic button...

Until everyone has pressed it.. then what?

 

[larryz]

But how many people are going to hit the button unnecessarily?

You don't TELL them about the light... And who's to say which gondola has the priority for evac? I'm just saying that if you need to know where a gondola is when they hit the call box, that's one way to do it.

Until everyone has pressed it.. then what?

Then you charge all the people on the ground $24.95 for viewing Disney's Twinkling Skyliner Experience.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

How about just putting the cabs on the line in numerical order.
1..2..3..4..5..6..8..9..10

or having each support column even more conspicuously labeled so that emergency dispatchers can get the nearest support column to direct first responders.

Why the hate for cabin 7 ?

#gondolacabin7matters

 

[flynnibus]

Do we know the actual timeline? @Lift Blog said on his blog that the first tweet went out at 8:45 pm. From posts here and elsewhere, it sounds like everyone was fully offloaded around 11 pm.

Dirk

Twitter is not behaving... but it looks like it stopped sometime between 7:45 and 8pm by most lay accounts I saw. By 10:50ish they were moving the line so cabins could unload if I recall. It's 'right about' 3hrs by my estimates... but don't let facts get in the way of emotional toil

 

[RustySpork]

One degree. It's been measured.

Well, measured is pretty meaningless without documenting the test conditions and the test has been repeated and proven by peers using the same method and instrumentation.

 

[EdnaMode]

- When my husband expressed concern about guests spending 3 hours in the gondolas, the CM specifically stated “it wasn’t 3 hours,

Was too!
Was not!
Was too!
Was not!
Was too!
Was not.

I really think it's ill-advised to get into this kind of thing with a customer. There's really no reason.

 

[danlb_2000]

You don't TELL them about the light... And who's to say which gondola has the priority for evac? I'm just saying that if you need to know where a gondola is when they hit the call box, that's one way to do it.

Even if they don't know about the light, it is still a problem. Let's say you have three cars in a row. People in two of them hit the call button because their child needs to go to the bathroom (an emergency for them), and the third hits it because a guest is having a heart attack. You now have three cars in a row with a flashing light, which one do they evac first?