ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
I should add that I fear these lengthy evacuations (just because of the nature of the Skyliner) will become a regular thing because of people over-estimating their ability to keep their phobias in check.
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Disney Skyliner shutdown and evacuation - October 6 2019
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No, that would be a massive liability. It's been catalogued what happened. They also had to rely on some sharing of services with the neighboring counties. However, this does stress why it's so important RCID gets the increase in firefighters. Had there been another issue at WDW at the same time, it would have been a disaster.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Why? This one incident doesn’t negate all of the success these systems have had including in other tourist destinations.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Stoppage was between 7:45 and 8pm approx
EMS were seen behind EPCOT a little after 9.. reports of active evacs were seen around 9:30
They got the line moving around 10:50-11pm
Reports of 'all clear' were right after midnight
All of these are pulls from tweets that seemed to jive with other direct sources. Times are approximate.
Your grasp of basic science is woefully... bad.
That chart is from NOAA for situations of *prolonged exposure* or strenuous activity. NOAA issues heat warnings if there's going to be more than 2 days of elevated heat.
You're claim of 1 degree makes a huge difference is completely absurd and ridiculous.
Here are the parts you're (intentionally?) leaving out...
Obviously, this isn't a chart for what happens in just a few hours with a one degree increase being the difference between life and death.
Do I have to sing Skyway to the Danger Zone again?
DryerLintFan
Premium Member
They aren't saying for every rider. They were being specific to the riders that may suffer from claustrophobia or anxiety or panic attacks that think they could "suck it up" for seven minutes, when the reality is that they could be stuck in one for hours if there is another issue. It may not be worth the risk, if they were told this flat out.
RustySpork
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carolina_yankee
Well-Known Member
Twitter is not behaving... but it looks like it stopped sometime between 7:45 and 8pm by most lay accounts I saw. By 10:50ish they were moving the line so cabins could unload if I recall. It's 'right about' 3hrs by my estimates... but don't let facts get in the way of emotional toil
Thanks. I do think it's helpful to know for certain what the actual delay was and From Lift Blog's post, it looked liked it could have been about 2:30. 3:00 is definitely a different category.
I don't discount emotional toil. People have anxieties, physical issues, etc., all of which are exacerbated under stress. It's one thing to experience something for three hours that you expect to be three hours, and another to have no knowledge of or input about what's going on and it stretched out the three hours.
I think phrases like "hanging by a thread" and "cheapens out" probably have more to with anxiety or alternate agendas than facts. For me, my issues would be related to not knowing what's going on. A simple announcement like "we are undergoing a medical evacuation and will work to address the stoppage as soon as the evacuation is completed" could have gone a long way. And then "We have identified the cause for the stoppage and plan to resume service in x minutes (shortly, after the next update, whatever). "
Dirk
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
Oh, I don't think it does. I'm looking forward to riding them myself. I made that statement in regards to people who have fear of heights, claustrophobia, etc. that may cause them to have issues while riding...which could lead to the need for evacuations by Reedy Creek.
itsy bitsy spider
Well-Known Member
I definitely want the Gondolas to succeed. We need as many transportation options as possible. I don't care if they hire Godzilla (Universal has King Kong) to carry people around.
flynnibus
Premium Member
agree - unfortunately Disney never does this, so it's not gonna change now. Dunno what the train of thought is... but that's long been the procedure. Heck, look at what they were telling people NOT on the ride... that this was just a "power failure" and "unexpected downtime". Transparency is not high on the list for Disney
flynnibus
Premium Member
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
And shame on those who ignore the warnings or call for evacuations for the fun of it. It needs to become public knowledge how costly it is to answer a call for emergency services.Like I said earlier...
It will happen...
flynnibus
Premium Member
That kind of self-responsibility as community baselines was tossed out long ago in this country... replaced with 'me me me'. That ship has sailed...
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
Don't remind me. Perhaps a fee schedule for calling for emergency services under false pretenses while on Disney property is in order.
Minthorne
Well-Known Member
I'm really interested to hear what Doppelmayr has to say about the incident. The latest article from the Orlando Sentinel says they have yet to respond to requests for comment. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/bus...0191007-hkjv7v2ainfmne2hyb66luxqfy-story.html
This is a newer design from them - could there be some design flaw that allows this fault to occur?
This is a newer design from them - could there be some design flaw that allows this fault to occur?
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