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lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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ImperfectPixie said:
I'm also wondering if maybe things in the room got moved prior to being installed, but after the drywall was up. I used to do site visits for large apartment and housing complexes during construction to create a punch-list for signage, and seeing that happen wasn't uncommon. Neither was seeing the location of specific rooms completely changed from the plans, or doors hung in opposite directions, etc.
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Large pieces of furniture cannot just be moved around on a whim. Their location is part of the room’s design not just in terms of comfort but also life safety and accessibility. Blocking most definitely should be in the wall and large enough that you can’t really miss.
 
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Calmdownnow

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ABQ said:
Without any sort of images or further details, speculating on exactly what went wrong is not going to get anywhere.
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It would be nice to know (for the peace of mind of other guests) that the resort management had taken urgent steps to check every other pull-down bed in all of the rooms to make sure they have been securely fixed. After all, the worker/s who installed this piece of furniture are unlikely to have only worked on one room.
 
ImperfectPixie

ImperfectPixie

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lazyboy97o said:
Large pieces of furniture cannot just be moved around on a whim. Their location is part of the room’s design not just in terms of comfort but also life safety and accessibility. Blocking most definitely should be in the wall and large enough that you can’t really miss.
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You would think...yet here we are and someone might have gotten hurt because of it. One would also think that 2"x4"s would be used to frame out a doorway, yet my neighbor's house clearly has NONE around any of the upstairs doorways (you can literally squeeze the moulding around the door to illustrate that there's nothing behind it using your bare hand).

I didn't say they were moved on a whim...the instances I was referring to were when construction was still underway and changes were made that weren't necessarily reflected on the plans (or at least the copies we had access to).
 
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mmascari

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BoarderPhreak said:
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That picture is disturbing in the lack of damage to the wall surface. You can see what looks like 2 plastic drywall anchors on the left, a matching attachment point on the right, and the 4 corresponding holes on the wall. They look way to small to hold a bed.

Disnutz311 said:
Should have been secured to the wall, absolutely, and that's the construction punch list fail. But this was not the large Murphy bed but the pull down kids bed under the TV. If you read the tweet it seems like a person bigger than a kid was sleeping on it...
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Shouldn't matter. Are they plastered with signs about a weight limit? When I read it as a kids bed, it makes me think of the size and a kid fitting not the weight. If an adult were to simply sit on it, it shouldn't be able to fail.

ImperfectPixie said:
I mean, you can install heavy things using certain kinds of drywall anchors and not mounting to studs or blocks, but I wouldn't do it that way for something that 1) gets moved a lot, and 2) has a human on it in any fashion.
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ImperfectPixie said:
Not really. It was either anchored correctly (in which case this would never have happened), or incorrectly. At any rate, it's fun trying to think of how/why it was incorrectly installed.
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Has anyone seen one of these in person? I'm wondering how they actually work. Are they cantilever type fold down beds? Something where a portion of the bed and weight sticks into the room with no support. Where it's dependent on the wall anchor providing meaningful support. Or, is there some type of leg or support that folds down with the bed that provides support closer to the edge, minimizing any overhang?

The different designs have a meaningful impact on how it's secured to the wall. A cantilever design would need a strong support on the wall, since that's preventing tipping around a main support that's closer to the wall than the outer edge. Something we would expect to the structure. However, if there's an outer leg, it could be more like a stand alone unit where the wall supports are more to prevent minor tipping and moving the unit. In that scenario, dry wall anchors may be enough. It would depend how minor that tipping force is and how much it really is a stand alone piece of furniture.
 
ABQ

ABQ

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mmascari said:
Has anyone seen one of these in person? I'm wondering how they actually work. Are they cantilever type fold down beds? Something where a portion of the bed and weight sticks into the room with no support. Where it's dependent on the wall anchor providing meaningful support. Or, is there some type of leg or support that folds down with the bed that provides support closer to the edge, minimizing any overhang?
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At the 5:08 mark you can see that it's dependent upon the completely weak sauce lacking wall "anchor" they used. Knuckleheaded construction at its best.
 
ImperfectPixie

ImperfectPixie

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mmascari said:
That picture is disturbing in the lack of damage to the wall surface. You can see what looks like 2 plastic drywall anchors on the left, a matching attachment point on the right, and the 4 corresponding holes on the wall. They look way to small to hold a bed.


Shouldn't matter. Are they plastered with signs about a weight limit? When I read it as a kids bed, it makes me think of the size and a kid fitting not the weight. If an adult were to simply sit on it, it shouldn't be able to fail.




Has anyone seen one of these in person? I'm wondering how they actually work. Are they cantilever type fold down beds? Something where a portion of the bed and weight sticks into the room with no support. Where it's dependent on the wall anchor providing meaningful support. Or, is there some type of leg or support that folds down with the bed that provides support closer to the edge, minimizing any overhang?

The different designs have a meaningful impact on how it's secured to the wall. A cantilever design would need a strong support on the wall, since that's preventing tipping around a main support that's closer to the wall than the outer edge. Something we would expect to the structure. However, if there's an outer leg, it could be more like a stand alone unit where the wall supports are more to prevent minor tipping and moving the unit. In that scenario, dry wall anchors may be enough. It would depend how minor that tipping force is and how much it really is a stand alone piece of furniture.
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Holy hell, I went to the group to get a better look at the pic, and you can even see the type of anchors they used - definitely not the right type for this kind of installation, and to me it looks like they were relying on the drywall to keep this standing up.

Plastic anchors in drywall...REALLY?!?
 
xdan0920

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
mmascari said:
Shouldn't matter. Are they plastered with signs about a weight limit? When I read it as a kids bed, it makes me think of the size and a kid fitting not the weight. If an adult were to simply sit on it, it shouldn't be able to fail.
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It’s important to blame the guest in these situations. If it’s Disney’s fault then how do I defend spending 40k on a fake ownership stake?
 
monothingie

monothingie

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop
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castlecake2.0

castlecake2.0

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Calmdownnow said:
It would be nice to know (for the peace of mind of other guests) that the resort management had taken urgent steps to check every other pull-down bed in all of the rooms to make sure they have been securely fixed. After all, the worker/s who installed this piece of furniture are unlikely to have only worked on one room.
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When I lived in Disney housing something similar happened to this. The person wasn’t hurt but we all received a phone call and a notice delivered to our apartments not to use the item item until they had been inspected and cleared, which happened later that day (and no I’m not talking about the hot tubs ;) )
 

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