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News Disney Riviera Resort announced
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Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
I really don't think thats the final font/styling. The hotel look/concept is another matter.
MrHappy
Well-Known Member
Correct, not the final font/styling indeed. Which is my point, if they were to break this big news with conviction, the entire concept could've been totally built out. The logo, or lack of one, being totally lackluster is a sign that they have simply just introduced an "idea" of a new resort. I believe the theming and creative pieces are next to be tacked on to this idea after they finish up more market research which probably includes social and mainstream media monitoring, including this forum. In the meantime, they'll work on the land and infrastructure.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I don't know. After looking at it closer it seems maybe French to me. I could be completely wrong though, it's hard to say based on that picture. It's not unprecedented to have 2 very unlike resorts directly next to each other on a lake (Poly & GF).
I assume it will still have a path...just like Poly and GF do. I still think if they don't have a counter service location at Riviera they will "direct" people down that path to CBR.
GCTales
Well-Known Member
All shape determinations I have seen have been from the D23 slide and the gondola permit drawing...
The D23 is hard to really blow up large enough to get a real good look at the layout.
Gotcha.
GCTales
Well-Known Member
any particular reason you are asking?
Is there another public source that we have somehow missed (as opposed to insider info that should not have gotten into the wild, so to speak)?
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
Probably wants to know if it would be worth his time to do an accurate mock up for us. He's good like that. He knows things.
GCTales
Well-Known Member
While I would love to see something like that, given Disney's reluctance to release info on DVCs until they can sell them and what little information is publicly available, I wouldn't want him Martin to risk anything.....
I can be patient. (Ok, has Disney released anything new?)
(How about now?)
Ok, I am impatient.... Considering this is tempting me to buy in to DVC if numbers are right and timing is right....
Expect $200/point. Which, IMHO, is far beyond what DVC is worth these days.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
I don't think thats going to be the price point. $20k for minimum buy in? Copper Creek is $176/point and thats MK area. I'd expect Riviera to be that at the top end, not the low end.
Edit: Forgot minimum was now 100 points
GCTales
Well-Known Member
At $200/ point, which is $24 higher than all current selling DVC properties (Aulani, Poly, Copper), it would be a very hard sell. Maintenance fees would obvious also be a factor, but given recent history of offering low maintenance fees and then jacking them up (BLT and Aulani) - I would not trust a fee not in line with all the others.
At that rate, it better be the most amazing DVC ever built- beyond four seasons, beyond GF, beyond anything in the area before I consider buying. At that price point, I go to resale market.
At that rate, it better be the most amazing DVC ever built- beyond four seasons, beyond GF, beyond anything in the area before I consider buying. At that price point, I go to resale market.
All true. But... "Disney Riviera Resort is MAGICALLY!!! connected via Disney Skyliner to the newly-renamed, MAGICAL!!! Disney Star Wars Land (and a few other movie IP) Studios Theme Park!!! It's MAGICAL!!!".
It's all about location in the new resort pricing, DVC included. $176/point at Copper Creek, and per point prices would likely increase to $182/point next year, and $189/point the year after that under the "old" price increase formula. Riviera will likely open in 2020 (which is just a guess on my part, but probably not far off), and given its location, I'd say $200/point is probably in-line with what the DVD bean counters will count on. Gotta think like a Disney exec, not a walking ATM... err... guest.
Edit: You can take this with a grain of salt, but with discounts we bought in at $85/point 12 years ago, and I believe the "raw" price was $92/point at that time. Not hard to imagine prices more than doubling in 14 years, especially when it comes to WDW/DVC, just look at ticket prices over that time.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
All true. But... "Disney Riviera Resort is MAGICALLY!!! connected via Disney Skyliner to the newly-renamed, MAGICAL!!! Disney Star Wars Land (and a few other movie IP) Studios Theme Park!!! It's MAGICAL!!!".
It's all about location in the new resort pricing, DVC included. $176/point at Copper Creek, and per point prices would likely increase to $182/point next year, and $189/point the year after that under the "old" price increase formula. Riviera will likely open in 2020 (which is just a guess on my part, but probably not far off), and given its location, I'd say $200/point is probably in-line with what the DVD bean counters will count on. Gotta think like a Disney exec, not a walking ATM... err... guest.
Edit: You can take this with a grain of salt, but with discounts we bought in at $85/point 12 years ago, and I believe the "raw" price was $92/point at that time. Not hard to imagine prices more than doubling in 14 years, especially when it comes to WDW/DVC, just look at ticket prices over that time.
This opens in 2019. There is no way they won't have Skyliner ready for SW:GE. And that means major construction at Riviera has to be done.
Price increases also depend on how well the properties are selling. If the current inventory isn't moving, they aren't going to add more inventory at a higher price.
GCTales
Well-Known Member
I agree it is all about location and MK area is still king and, even with the upgrades to HS and IPcot, I think it will remain that way (with the announced improvements to MK).All true. But... "Disney Riviera Resort is MAGICALLY!!! connected via Disney Skyliner to the newly-renamed, MAGICAL!!! Disney Star Wars Land (and a few other movie IP) Studios Theme Park!!! It's MAGICAL!!!".
It's all about location in the new resort pricing, DVC included. $176/point at Copper Creek, and per point prices would likely increase to $182/point next year, and $189/point the year after that under the "old" price increase formula. Riviera will likely open in 2020 (which is just a guess on my part, but probably not far off), and given its location, I'd say $200/point is probably in-line with what the DVD bean counters will count on. Gotta think like a Disney exec, not a walking ATM... err... guest.
Edit: You can take this with a grain of salt, but with discounts we bought in at $85/point 12 years ago, and I believe the "raw" price was $92/point at that time. Not hard to imagine prices more than doubling in 14 years, especially when it comes to WDW/DVC, just look at ticket prices over that time.
We will have to wait and see, but I think they will be very hard pressed to move the contracts at that rate.... Unless it is the most incredible resort they have yet built. Given what I have seen at the other DVC properties, I don't see this happening.
However, if they go that rate, it pushes me from serious potential buyer for new... To someone who is looking at resale only.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Same. For some reason that $200/point just makes it seem much more expensive. I love the location of Riviera, but I also figured due to location it would be cheaper than what they've been building. Maybe not per point, but definitely on the points per night side.
Crud. Did some checking, we bought in at $86/point, my apologies for the inaccurate information.
Fall 2019 is the projected opening date, so I was close but you were closer. In my haste, I forgot the fact that this is going in at an existing formerly-known-as-a-moderate resort. So they may not hit $200/point, but $190-$192/point, and riding the wave of buzz they are creating with SWL? I'd almost be willing to wager a large sum of virtual money that is the price point it debuts at in 2 years. It will be a 5 minute gondola ride from 2 theme parks that Disney is spending a lot of money on. They're going to market the hell out of that.
Personally, at the point in my life I'm at, I'd go resale if I were looking to add points. I have my purchased-thru-Disney points, so I don't need to be concerned about missing out on any "Membership Extras" that they try to convince us are so special (They aren't, more often than not). If I want points at BWV, I'll just buy points at BWV at a significant discount to Disney's going rate (currently $165/point, according to DVCInfo.com) and not worry about not being able to use them outside of DVC properties.
Fall 2019 is the projected opening date, so I was close but you were closer.
In my haste, I forgot the fact that this is going in at an existing formerly-known-as-a-moderate resort. So they may not hit $200/point, but $190-$192/point, and riding the wave of buzz they are creating with SWL? I'd almost be willing to wager a large sum of virtual money that is the price point it debuts at in 2 years. It will be a 5 minute gondola ride from 2 theme parks that Disney is spending a lot of money on. They're going to market the hell out of that.Personally, at the point in my life I'm at, I'd go resale if I were looking to add points. I have my purchased-thru-Disney points, so I don't need to be concerned about missing out on any "Membership Extras" that they try to convince us are so special (They aren't, more often than not). If I want points at BWV, I'll just buy points at BWV at a significant discount to Disney's going rate (currently $165/point, according to DVCInfo.com) and not worry about not being able to use them outside of DVC properties.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
As a DVC owner no its not, But it's exactly what TDO is demanding of DVD cheap generic buildings that are cheap to maintain. (But not to buy into)
DVC how you have fallen, from the amazing OKW, AKL and WL to THIS awful piece of crap.