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Has anyone ever seen the inside of the animal enclosures, safari route, or savannah littered with paper straws even?
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News Disney removing plastic straws and more by mid-2019
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Has anyone ever seen the inside of the animal enclosures, safari route, or savannah littered with paper straws even?
No but people are dumb enough to flick their hairbands on Everest. It's only a matter of time.
GoofGoof
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I’m skeptical that a whole lot of people will bring their own straws and I hope if they do that CMs at AK are quick to reprimand them. If there are really people who are so desperate to use a plastic straws then there’s a good chance they were already bringing plastic straws from a hotel or one of the other parks to DAK. This could actually cut down on that unless they actually bring straws from home.
MrPromey
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Wow! I hadn't even considered that!
21stamps
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That’s a roller coaster tradition for as long as I can remember.
A stupid one, and I don’t know why anyone would throw away a hair tie... but it has been around forever at all amusement parks.
jaklgreen
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I would be all for refilling my water bottle, but not with the swamp water they have now. I can not stomach that stuff. How hard is it to clean up the water?
flynnibus
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They go in the shredder like everything else...
Lensman
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http://biomassmagazine.com/articles...oys-honeywellundefineds-green-jet-fuel-at-lax
The jet fuel is a blend that contains 30% renewable jet fuel.
United isn't the only airline getting in on the action. Southwest and Fedex are in on it too.
https://www.biofuelsdigest.com/bdig...-output-of-red-rock-biorefinery-through-2024/
In addition research continues to find better "feedstock" from which to make bio jet fuel and bio-diesel. I just read about the bio-engineered sugar cane called lipidcane that could produce 4x-15x more jet fuel per acre than soybean crop could.
s8film40
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Well the paper straws don't really hold up well so I would assume people don't walk around with them that much. But, yeah it would be a pretty rare thing though even if plastic straws were readily available everywhere.
I learned after having a child to come to the parks more prepared. We actually regularly carry a variety of things like napkins, straws, dipping cups and other things that make it easier when eating out with a toddler. Personally I don't use straws myself. I prefer to have my drinks without ice and drink straight from the cup. Honestly if people could manage to get over not making their drinks into sno-cones by filling them with ice they would easily be able to drink like an adult and not have a need for a straw or sippy cup in the first place.
Lensman
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Have you looked at the water bottles that have an included filter? Do they work well? I don't have one but I could see getting one for WDW or usage outside the office/home.
Lets Respect
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Maybe they should donate carbon offsets for every person who flies to WDW.
I think virgin Atlantic already offer that.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
When my kids were younger we always brought their drink cups with them to the parks. They had built in rubber straws and were insulated so even if we bought a drink from a quick serve (or one came with a kids meal) we would just poor it into those cups and it stayed cold and clean longer. Now they just drink from regular cups which they have to hold themselves, but even at 8 and 11 we still hoard napkins. They can still make a pretty good mess.
Lensman
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A big problem is that there's currently no pipeline for straws in most recycling programs. This could change but currently straws are considered a contaminant in most programs.
They *could* be recycled but they currently *aren't*.
As the straw tumbles...
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Some airlines already offer them directly when buying the ticket. There are other places you can go to buy them too. It’s a lot cheaper than most people realize, but still an added cost. I’m not sure why Disney would be buying them for guests unless you think they should charge them for them on their Hotel bill. I think most people would be furious if Disney switched from plastic to paper straws and then charged guests for the straws. This change is not costing guests anything unless you choose to not use the provided paper straws and instead buy your own and bring them. It’s a free country.
Lensman
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Maybe Disney could donate a percentage of their evil parking fee revenue to buy carbon offsets for drivers?
I've seen those carbon offsets that you can buy on the airline websites. I've always wondered who buys them, because even I don't and I'm moderately committed to sustainability - we're currently saving up to install PV on our roof before the federal tax credits expire and while FPL is still offering their net metering program. I'd be more inclined to support sustainability by investing in energy efficiency rather than just donating my money to the airline to help them with their sustainability rating.
Wait! Crazy idea: Disney could have an exception to their hated parking fee for EVs. In this sustainable dream-world, they'd have recharging stations available in the resort lots like they do at the parks and at Disney Springs. This would actually be an interesting way for them to differentiate between people who are driving from home (more likely to be an EV) vs a rental (unlikely to be an EV). OTOH, most people who have road-tripped down the WDW would have taken their long-distance gas vehicle rather than their EV.
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More likely WDW will offer to sell fliers carbon offsets, $199.95 per person, includes a special WDW "I helped save the environment!" pin picturing Goofy and Donald bashing some corporate polluter over the head with croquet mallets.
Oh, and a green cupcake.
Lets Respect
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I think if they are going to act like they are these big environmentalists by taking away straws and individual toiletry bottles, they should put their money where their mouth is. It's the same as movie stars who preach to people about the environment and then take off in their private jets
GoofGoof
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I don’t see Disney doing a whole lot that costs them significantly more money. If the paper straws were 10x the price we wouldn’t be getting them. Remember this is also combined with eliminating individual shampoos in the hotel rooms (a money saver for sure) and the sale of reusable bags for souvenirs (profit center). I assume this program is very close to break even for Disney or maybe even a small financial gain.Maybe Disney could donate a percentage of their evil parking fee revenue to buy carbon offsets for drivers?
I've seen those carbon offsets that you can buy on the airline websites. I've always wondered who buys them, because even I don't and I'm moderately committed to sustainability - we're currently saving up to install PV on our roof before the federal tax credits expire and while FPL is still offering their net metering program. I'd be more inclined to support sustainability by investing in energy efficiency rather than just donating my money to the airline to help them with their sustainability rating.
Wait! Crazy idea: Disney could have an exception to their hated parking fee for EVs. In this sustainable dream-world, they'd have recharging stations available in the resort lots like they do at the parks and at Disney Springs. This would actually be an interesting way for them to differentiate between people who are driving from home (more likely to be an EV) vs a rental (unlikely to be an EV). OTOH, most people who have road-tripped down the WDW would have taken their long-distance gas vehicle rather than their EV.
On the offsets I don’t know how the airline programs work, but if you buy carbon offsets from a reputable place like Green Mountain Energy you are directly investing in carbon reducing projects. It’s just an aggregator like a mutual fund. Many people buy in for small amounts of money and the combined proceeds are used to buy “carbon offsets” from various larger projects. A company that has a facility that emits carbon can agree to reduce the carbon emissions and be paid for those offsets. This helps pay for the cost of reducing the emissions and makes the economics work for the company. The way to look at it is your flight is still emitting CO2, but somewhere in the world a facility is emitting less to offset your use and the offsets you bought paid for that. Without the offsets the company would not have reduced their carbon.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Nowhere is Disney claiming they are spending large amounts of money on this. They are basically saying we have an easy and seamless way to be more environmentally friendly without charging our guests any more money or materially changing the overall experience. 95% of guests wouldn’t care what the straw was made of (just like DAK today). Once people hear it’s to be more environmentally friendly another 25 to 30% will be probably be opposed...just on principle.