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Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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WDW has very few high-end restaurants. You can count them on one hand. They have restaurants that pretend they are, but really - no, there is very little of that at WDW. With House of Blues ticketed events, I think you'd find the largest percentage of people buying them are locals.
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Yes, but house of Blues does VERY, VERY well. Shows are consistently packed (it's the #1 attended club in America according to Live Nation and Billboard.com) and it's rated as one of the best concert venues in Orlando by far. Anyone who's been there can verify that.

Disney would just need to create something that is small enough in seating capacity, but high in show quality. It could be done.
 
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indyumd

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A couple years ago I bought my wife orchestra seats for touring Broadway production of The Lion King at the Kennedy Center in DC. The tickets were $115+ fees each.

I'm sure if Disney spent millions and millions to build a Broadway-quality theater, they could keep draw an audience for a show like that for a limited period. But I don't think its sustainable. Is a family of 4 gonna drop an extra $500 and 3 hours to see a Broadway version of Lion King when they could spend that time at Animal Kingdom and see the Lion King show there? I just don't see it.
 
Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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indyumd said:
A couple years ago I bought my wife orchestra seats for touring Broadway production of The Lion King at the Kennedy Center in DC. The tickets were $115+ fees each.

I'm sure if Disney spent millions and millions to build a Broadway-quality theater, they could keep draw an audience for a show like that for a limited period. But I don't think its sustainable. Is a family of 4 gonna drop an extra $500 and 3 hours to see a Broadway version of Lion King when they could spend that time at Animal Kingdom and see the Lion King show there? I just don't see it.
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Somehow Cirque and Blue Man Group have remained sustainable... i'm sure Disney could figure out a schedule (have off days on slower periods) and the right show (one that isn't touring or on broadway) that will attract a crowd to see it if they really wanted to.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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Next Big Thing said:
Yes, but house of Blues does VERY, VERY well. Shows are consistently packed (it's the #1 attended club in America according to Live Nation and Billboard.com) and it's rated as one of the best concert venues in Orlando by far. Anyone who's been there can verify that.

Disney would just need to create something that is small enough in seating capacity, but high in show quality. It could be done.
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Ive been to several HOB and it is by far the best of the chain.
 
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indyumd

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Next Big Thing said:
Somehow Cirque and Blue Man Group have remained sustainable... i'm sure Disney could figure out a schedule (have off days on slower periods) and the right show (one that isn't touring or on broadway) that will attract a crowd to see it if they really wanted to.
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My understanding is that Cirque is floundering, at best. There are tons of coupons/groupons available and the show is rarely sold anywhere near capacity.
 
Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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indyumd said:
My understanding is that Cirque is floundering, at best. There are tons of coupons/groupons available and the show is rarely sold anywhere near capacity.
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I'm not going to necessarily argue with that and a Disney show would certainly not help that. As a matter of fact, it would probably drive Cirque out completely, which is even more reason for Disney not to do something like this.

If they create competition, it will anger Cirque and hurt their sales even more and they are a paying tenant. Disney would be operating on their own property, so they have more of an interest in keeping Cirque around than creating competition.
 
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indyumd

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Next Big Thing said:
There are a lot of people who love seeing Cirque shows. A 100% new, unique to Orlando show would likely help among tourists, yes. Most tourists that enjoy Cirque have seen it by this point.
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It would help, yes. But I don't think it would be nearly as successful as La Nouba, and the bump would not sustain. When La Nouba premiered in 1998, a 4-day park hopper was like $150 and hotel prices were dramatically different. I just think an expensive show like that is going to have a much harder time today.
 
Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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indyumd said:
It would help, yes. But I don't think it would be nearly as successful as La Nouba, and the bump would not sustain. When La Nouba premiered in 1998, a 4-day park hopper was like $150 and hotel prices were dramatically different. I just think an expensive show like that is going to have a much harder time today.
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They could find ways around the pricing. Possibly offer cheaper tickets and try to add more seating (if possible?). That way they are still making the money would've been making (or more), but it's more affordable.
 
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indyumd

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Next Big Thing said:
They could find ways around the pricing. Possibly offer cheaper tickets and try to add more seating (if possible?). That way they are still making the money would've been making (or more), but it's more affordable.
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Right, but you can't do that with a Broadway-level show. The math doesn't work. Which is why I don't think that plan is feasible. With a show like La Nouba, you've long since paid off the sunk costs of the show and theater, so you can keep it on autopilot and still make it profitable. That's my whole point. You want the Broadway Lion King show, you can't discount tickets or put it on groupon.
 
Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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indyumd said:
Right, but you can't do that with a Broadway-level show. The math doesn't work. Which is why I don't think that plan is feasible. With a show like La Nouba, you've long since paid off the sunk costs of the show and theater, so you can keep it on autopilot and still make it profitable. That's my whole point. You want the Broadway Lion King show, you can't discount tickets or put it on groupon.
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I don't want the Broadway Lion King fwiw... I want something that isn't on Broadway or isn't Touring at all. Something Unique to Disney. I don't envision this location being like Cirque where it stays the same show essentially for 17 years with minor changes. I want this to be a theatre that can rotate shows, only showing shows for months at a time potentially - a year at most.
 
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indyumd

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Next Big Thing said:
I don't want the Broadway Lion King fwiw... I want something that isn't on Broadway or isn't Touring at all. Something Unique to Disney. I don't envision this location being like Cirque where it stays the same show essentially for 17 years with minor changes. I want this to be a theatre that can rotate shows, only showing shows for months at a time potentially - a year at most.
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Well, then you are never gonna get anything better than stuff like Beauty and the Beast at the Studios. You can't have yearly changes of shows (or even more frequently) and keep any amount of quality without using touring shows. You need months of rehearsals, even for Theme Park shows.
 
*Q*

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How about the MegaAdventurers Club, serving MegaKungalooshes, starring MegaColonel Suchbench and MegaHathaway Browne, with shows such as the MegaHoopla?

Regarding Cirque du Soleil, now that they have ventured into branded shows featuring things like The Beatles and Avatar, why not a new Cirque show based around Disney music and icongraphy? That would be sure to draw regular crowds, and bring back plenty of people who have seen La Nouba before.
 
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indyumd

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How about the MegaAdventurers Club, serving MegaKungalooshes, starring MegaColonel Suchbench and MegaHathaway Browne, with shows such as the MegaHoopla?

Regarding Cirque du Soleil, now that they have ventured into branded shows featuring things like The Beatles and Avatar, why not a new Cirque show based around Disney music and icongraphy? That would be sure to draw regular crowds, and bring back plenty of people who have seen La Nouba before.
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I like that idea. In fact, it makes me wonder if Disney might consider working with Cirque on a traveling version. It could be almost an adult version of Disney on Ice.
 
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indyumd

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The other thing I'd be interested in having Disney explore (and I know this would not fit with this site's demographic at all) would be some sort of physical-activity focused center with sections for different ages to be physically active. You could scale from baby gymnastic type stuff to bounce house stuff to wall climbing or other things for older kids. I think that gets a bit at the type of demographic that DisneyQuest was trying to serve, but I think if it was well-executed, a high-end play zone of some sort could be great. Especially for rainy or cold nights when the playgrounds and pools aren't a good option. Now, my fear is they'd just drop in a crappy playground setup and call it a day.
 
Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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AJH219 said:
I love musicals as much as the next guy, but I agree with this so much! I've never been interested in seeing a permanent production of The Lion King or any other Disney Broadway production at Disney Springs or somewhere else on property. Plus they kind of already have their "own" theatre at the Dr. Philips' Center in downtown.
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I figured there must have been a local theater somewhere in the area. Still wouldn't completely rule it out. Think of the tourist crowd.
 

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