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mickEblu

mickEblu

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The best they can do is just not touch any of the Pixar Pier / MB stuff or just go over it quickly and as neutrally as possible. Otherwise, in 10 years when they come out with the next series of imagineering documentaries and can be honest again they ll have some seriously contradicting statements. Not that it that’s important to them. Pixar Pier and GOTG: MB contradict almost everything that’s been said in every Imagineering / Disney book.
 
Mac Tonight

Mac Tonight

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mickEblu said:
The best they can do is just not touch any of the Pixar Pier / MB stuff or just go over it quickly and as neutrally as possible. Otherwise, in 10 years when they come out with the next series of imagineering documentaries and can be honest again they ll have some seriously contradicting statements. Not that it that’s important to them. Pixar Pier and GOTG: MB contradict almost everything that’s been said in every Imagineering / Disney book.
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Considering they kind of just basically did a fly-over of the entirety of EPCOT and didn't really give any kind of in-depth look at the attractions there, I don't expect any breath to be spent going over the complexities of Pixar Pier or M:BO, unless the latter is part of a larger Marvel brief.
 
Phroobar

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I expect to see a full episode dedicated to the rides and overlays they did for DCA. We might think Pixar Pier and GOTG:MB are garbage but they don't know that. It's not like either set of attractions are ghost towns so someone must like it.
 
VJ

VJ

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I don't think Joe Rohde understands Walt Disney Imagineering.

Imagineering is about "making the fantastical real, and making the real fantastic". Disney's Animal Kingdom is just making the real, real, and that's basically the gist of what Joe Rohde was saying.

He understands how to copy another place and go on "research trips" (read: paid vacations), sure, but does he know how to make that place Disney?
 
SuddenStorm

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VJ said:
I don't think Joe Rohde understands Walt Disney Imagineering.

Imagineering is about "making the fantastical real, and making the real fantastic". Disney's Animal Kingdom is just making the real, real, and that's basically the gist of what Joe Rohde was saying.

He understands how to copy another place and go on "research trips" (read: paid vacations), sure, but does he know how to make that place Disney?
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This is a huge part of why Rohde works best when he has a blank canvas to work with. He can create amazing themed environments, and as long as they're in their own park it doesn't matter how 'un Disney' they are. And that's a very valuable person to have inside WDI.

But he should never be allowed to work on a project inside Disneyland Park.
 
RobWDW1971

RobWDW1971

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SuddenStorm said:
This is a huge part of why Rohde works best when he has a blank canvas to work with. He can create amazing themed environments, and as long as they're in their own park it doesn't matter how 'un Disney' they are. And that's a very valuable person to have inside WDI..
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Agreed, but Kali River ride is an embarrassment - but such a detailed queue! Look at all the crap they brought back from their “research trips”!
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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VJ said:
I don't think Joe Rohde understands Walt Disney Imagineering.

Imagineering is about "making the fantastical real, and making the real fantastic". Disney's Animal Kingdom is just making the real, real, and that's basically the gist of what Joe Rohde was saying.

He understands how to copy another place and go on "research trips" (read: paid vacations), sure, but does he know how to make that place Disney?
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Disney’s Animal Kingdom is very much about how nature is fantastic.
 
lazyboy97o

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RobWDW1971 said:
And asphalt parking lot carnivals - or something.
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A sub-land now defines a park? Of Disney’s Animal Kingdom, Disney’s California Adventure and Walt Disney Studios Park, one worked and continues to work. Chester and Hester’s Dino-Rama was proudly designed to be ripped out and shows a better use of the same sort of extremely tight budgets that mired the other two parks.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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Franklin47disneyguy said:
Don't wanna spoil Ep 4 but they (imagineers) are very honest about DCA 1.0, WDS and HKDL. Not the corporate marketing I would expect.
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Now it would be really refreshing if they were honest about present day and compared Chapek to Pressler. Obviously won’t happen and doesn’t make any business sense though.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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I rolled my eyes to the back of my head When Eisner said that he thinks putting someone in a financial box will make them more creative. And I’m an Eisner fan for all of the great stuff he helped bring to DL in the 80s and 90s.

On another note, they keep talking about the company being in a period of fiscal discipline when DCA was being built. Why was that though? The slow start with Euro Disneyland?
 
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Franklin47disneyguy

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mickEblu said:
I rolled my eyes to the back of my head When Eisner said that he thinks putting someone in a financial box will make them more creative. And I’m an Eisner fan for all of the great stuff he helped bring to DL in the 80s and 90s.

On another note, they keep talking about the company being in a period of fiscal discipline when DCA was being built. Why as that though? The slow start with Euro Disneyland?
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The death of Frank Wells was very difficult for Eisner, in ep 3 Tony Baxter reverse to Eisner as a guy with 3 types of ideas (good, meh, worse). Wells was good in filtering out the good ones, Euro Disney was losing a lot of money so Eisner was afraid to spend to mush money. But really nice that they are so open about what happend in that dark period.
 

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