EPCOTCenterLover
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I thought it was a great Episode! But then, I love Disneyland Paris and am a big Tony Baxter fan.
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SuddenStorm
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The mid to late '90s- Frank's death, Michael's surgery- drastically changed the direction of the Disney company and, in my opinion, set in place a series of events that unfairly tarnished Michael's legacy. Just to think how differently we'd look at Eisner now if he had handled Katzenberg better, hadn't hired Pressler, and hadn't hired Ovitz...
SuddenStorm
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Episode 3 is phenomenal- easily my favorite. Many stories and anecdotes are also told in the far more in depth Season Pass Podcast Tony Baxter series- only this time we have footage.
Seeing many of these lesser known Imagineers get represented is spectacular.
Seeing many of these lesser known Imagineers get represented is spectacular.
Sharon&Susan
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I’m surprised that the “Star Rides” for Star Tours name made it so far into development that they recorded Anthony Daniels using it. I always thought that was just the incredibly early name on the initial proposal or something.
lazyboy97o
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Pressler was hired in the late 80s well before Frank’s death and liked by both of them. Frank also shared Michael’s view that executives are executives and should be moved around, even into areas where they had no prior experience.
MK-fan
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I wish there was some archival interviews with Claude Coats included if their are any. He’s one of the most underrated imagineers IMO, His designs span almost 40 years of imagineering. Just look at this resume:
From Claudecoats.com
Disneyland
Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride – show designer and scenic artist, with Ken Anderson 1955
Fantasyland dark ride load area murals – with Ken Anderson 1955
Space Station X-1 – scenic artist, with Peter Ellenshaw 1955
Project Show Designer
Rainbow Caverns 1957
Alice in Wonderland 1958
Grand Canyon Diorama 1958
Submarine Voyage 1959
Primeval World 1966
Pirates of the Caribbean 1967
Adventure Thru Inner Space 1967
The Haunted Mansion 1969
1964-65 New York World’s Fair
Ford Pavilion’s Magic Skyway – project show designer
General Electric’s Carousel of Progress – concept and design collaboration
Pepsi Cola’s It’s a Small World – concept and design collaboration
Walt Disney World’s Magic Kingdom 1971
Exterior architectural design of Dutch Gothic Haunted Mansion
Mickey Mouse Revue – concept and design collaboration
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Submarine Voyage – project show designer
Snow White’s Scary Adventures – project show designer
If You Had Wings – project show designer -- 1972
EPCOT Center 1982
Future World
Universe of Energy – project show designer
World of Motion, Spaceship Earth, The Land – initial concepts and designs
Horizons – 1983 – initial concepts and designs
World Showcase
Themed architecture and show designs for several nations
Tokyo Disneyland – 1983
Meet the World – project show designer
It’s a Small World – show design supervision based on previous versions
Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour – project show designer – 1986
Disneyland Paris – 1992
Main Entrance Plaza – initial design concepts
From Claudecoats.com
Disneyland
Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride – show designer and scenic artist, with Ken Anderson 1955
Fantasyland dark ride load area murals – with Ken Anderson 1955
Space Station X-1 – scenic artist, with Peter Ellenshaw 1955
Project Show Designer
Rainbow Caverns 1957
Alice in Wonderland 1958
Grand Canyon Diorama 1958
Submarine Voyage 1959
Primeval World 1966
Pirates of the Caribbean 1967
Adventure Thru Inner Space 1967
The Haunted Mansion 1969
1964-65 New York World’s Fair
Ford Pavilion’s Magic Skyway – project show designer
General Electric’s Carousel of Progress – concept and design collaboration
Pepsi Cola’s It’s a Small World – concept and design collaboration
Walt Disney World’s Magic Kingdom 1971
Exterior architectural design of Dutch Gothic Haunted Mansion
Mickey Mouse Revue – concept and design collaboration
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Submarine Voyage – project show designer
Snow White’s Scary Adventures – project show designer
If You Had Wings – project show designer -- 1972
EPCOT Center 1982
Future World
Universe of Energy – project show designer
World of Motion, Spaceship Earth, The Land – initial concepts and designs
Horizons – 1983 – initial concepts and designs
World Showcase
Themed architecture and show designs for several nations
Tokyo Disneyland – 1983
Meet the World – project show designer
It’s a Small World – show design supervision based on previous versions
Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour – project show designer – 1986
Disneyland Paris – 1992
Main Entrance Plaza – initial design concepts
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TrainsOfDisney
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And what does your portfolio consist of?
SuddenStorm
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I'm definitely not an artist, or a creative- and my 'portfolio' I created for my high school photography class years ago is certainly nothing compared to Kim's career.
I'm a fan, and tend to care more about the stuff Tom Morris and Tony Baxter have done then the stuff Kim's been a lead on. I'm not saying she's worthless... Just that the decades long Imagineering career should have far more to show for it then it does, and I tend to not like the way she talks about Disneyland fans in interviews. And the fact every article opens with her lineage, instead of her resume is a bit embarrassing after years of professional experience in the company.
Of course, it shouldn't take a designer to see how bad the Castle's plastic roofs look alongside the real roofs found in the rest of Fantasyland, or how Club 33's new entrance doesn't blend in at all with the rest of New Orleans... Or how losing the Court De Angels is purely a loss for the guest.
TrainsOfDisney
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Well yeah I’d pick Tony or Joe to work on a project over Kim any day. But I still feel she’s quite accomplished and has a neat eye for design all her own.
I can’t blame her for the Court, I don’t know if that was her idea or something she was told to design around.
trainplane3
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Welp...this show is going to be taking a turn I was worried about from the beginning:
RobWDW1971
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Good lord! I assume that is a joke. Will they do an up close and personal on the Imaginnering team behind Jack Jack on a Stick and how they were channeling Walt and his desire to wow audiences?
Magic Feather
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I hate to be “that guy,” but that is not inaccurate. Comparing first few years of Iger with last few years of Eisner really does paint Iger in a favorable manner. Even though most of us, myself included, aren’t the biggest fan of how things are getting done (ex. IP inclusion overload), it is undeniable that we are/were in a nearly unprecedented time for CapEx at the parks.
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trainplane3
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I won't deny that at all.
I'm really curious how they interview Iger and his thoughts. It's only a description so I'm not going to get worked up over. Just a slight concern that they'll paint him as the perfect CEO ever.
Animaniac93-98
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We knew the closer we got to today, the more spin would be put on the current product and its leaders.
Thankfully the history of the parks post 2000 is well documented and within recent memory so there are plenty of people who can fact check and give a more accurate perspective.
Kram Sacul
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The documentary series so far has been excellent and fairly honest but I’m fully expecting them to say how great Pixar Pier and Mission: Garbage Chute is. That will be the time to turn it off.
PiratesMansion
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They WILL want to promote Marvel in the parks, and MB is the best venue to do that in the US, unless they want to talk about the upcoming Epcot coaster instead. As for PP, there's been so much genuinely great work from the Imagineers over the last decade (albeit mostly not in the US and in other parts of the world) and so much coming that I think Pixar Pier won't need be mentioned.
Between Carsland, Pandora, Shanghai Disneyland, Mystic Manor, the upcoming Beauty and the Beast attraction in Tokyo, the upcoming DisneySea, HKDL, and Zootopia Land projects, I think they have more than enough to talk about.
Mac Tonight
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Did any of us really expect them to not have good things to say about current parks and "the future"?
Finally caught up over the weekend and really enjoying it. It's got the right blend of anecdote and history balanced out with great archival footage (ep 1 especially).
I forget where I saw this (probably twitter), but I have to agree with the idea that while Walt's death was certainly the most tragic, I think Frank Wells' death was the more influential in the company's change of course.
Can't wait for ep4!
Finally caught up over the weekend and really enjoying it. It's got the right blend of anecdote and history balanced out with great archival footage (ep 1 especially).
I forget where I saw this (probably twitter), but I have to agree with the idea that while Walt's death was certainly the most tragic, I think Frank Wells' death was the more influential in the company's change of course.
Can't wait for ep4!
Mac Tonight
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Agree. I'm glad they're not completely shying away from the company's missteps.
Though, we all know they won't actually refer to certain things as problematic (ahem Pixar Pier, etc).
Kram Sacul
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You're probably right. They have enough exciting stuff going on to not talk about the missteps. In the grand scheme of things Pixar Pier is a cheap redressing not worth mentioning. Same with M: BO but that is a part of the Marvel land thing I’m sure they’re going to push in the last few minutes.
I’m very curious if they’ll mention the current state of the Yeti in EE.