Disney Playing catch up with Universal... Potter Disney's biggest mistake in 20 years...

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raven24 said:
You don't think this is a good thing, do you?
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Disney may not worry about their lack of investment, but what about MY investment? UNI is giving us new stuff for our money spent. Dis, I've been getting the same thing for a long time now. It's not a good thing to maintain the status quo just because you can. This industry was built on innovation and driven by imagination. When those things no longer play a role in your decision making process, then what's the point?
 
TubaGeek

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Fast_Eddie said:
IUni studios seemingly has to spend billions to get the little bit they get to come and won't be able to keep this up.
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Why do you say that? Potter 1 paid for itself in a matter of months, and I'm certain Springfield has already turned a profit. Not to mention the sharp increases in attendance after Transformers and Despicable Me were built. And don't even get me STARTED on the merchandise that those four franchises sell individually.
 
wm49rs

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Fast_Eddie said:
I didn't read all the points , so not sure this was made. If you research numbers of attendance, u'd see disney figured years ago that they didn't have to do anything, and people came to the parks. They didn't gain much nor did they lose much, so would you spend 100s of millions for new attraction when the same amount of people came to the parks yearly, with small growth. Uni studios seemingly has to spend billions to get the little bit they get to come and won't be able to keep this up. Eisner started this when animal kingdom was built when he gutted the budget and didn't finish the park.
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Well, there's a flying endorsement....
 
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twebber55

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GLaDOS said:
Terminator has 100% and Terminator 2 has a 92% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes, Avatar has 83%.
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yep you re right like the other two people who were right I was speaking in terms of awards and really never should ve said better but left it as bigger...T2 was great there was a bigger point I was trying to make
 
danlb_2000

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Fast_Eddie said:
I didn't read all the points , so not sure this was made. If you research numbers of attendance, u'd see disney figured years ago that they didn't have to do anything, and people came to the parks. They didn't gain much nor did they lose much, so would you spend 100s of millions for new attraction when the same amount of people came to the parks yearly, with small growth. Uni studios seemingly has to spend billions to get the little bit they get to come and won't be able to keep this up. Eisner started this when animal kingdom was built when he gutted the budget and didn't finish the park.
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Uni seems to be able to stretch a dollar much further then Disney, I don't believe they have even crossed the $1billion mark yet with everything they have build since, and including, Harry Potter Phase 1. Comcast is a huge company, they have the financial resources to continue this rate of expansion for some time to come if they really want to.
 
Mouse Trap

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TP2000 said:
Adds dimension? How so? The seat rows seem to have a more limited range of motion than the Soarin' vehicles.

It's a nifty trick to see how the theater transitions from horizontal to vertical, but the mechanics of it don't seem to provide anything new from a ridership experience. If anything, it seems more limiting than Soarin' both dimensionally and creatively.
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Horizontal to vertical is traveling on two different axis, thus adding a "dimension". The use of these transitions will live and die by the screens, and how much more capability the actual vehicle has.

Heck this is all speculation anyways, but then again what would be left of this topic if everyone here didn't bicker about every tiny detail.
 
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twebber55

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danlb_2000 said:
Uni seems to be able to stretch a dollar much further then Disney, I don't believe they have even crossed the $1billion mark yet with everything they have build since, and including, Harry Potter Phase 1. Comcast is a huge company, they have the financial resources to continue this rate of expansion for some time to come if they really want to.
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they are a huge company who loves the theme park business... you always do something better when you love what you are doing... theres something about being motivated
 
Mouse Trap

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I'm hoping for a KUKA arm implementation somewhere other than poor simulation at EPCOT. If we really want to go on a Banshee ride, the KUKA would be awesome.
 
SJN1279

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marni1971 said:
That wouldn't cut it.

A 3-4 or even 5 minute Soarin' style ride as the anchor? It'd be a good support act to the main attraction if there was one.

This land needs a true E ticket. 10-15 minutes of proper WDI storytelling. Ride system to die for. Physical space to move through. Pirates of the Caribbean in Pandoraland. Worth queuing an hour for. RSR or Mystic scale. Re ridability. Not Soarin 2.0.

It is in danger of being another FLE. Beautiful to look at but mediocre substance.

The park needs and deserves more.
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10-15 minutes? There is a reason Epcot had to redo all of its rides. People in today's society for the most part want instant gratification, not 10-15 minute rides. BTW Mystic Manor is 5 minutes in length and RSR is 4 minutes. It is a different era.
 
SJN1279

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People who complain that the Seven Dwarves Mine Train was originally a longer attraction seem to forget that the animatronics were very low tech in that version. I found the Seven Dwarves Train to be the perfect ride length for a coaster. The ride starts off strong, has a great mid point in the mine with the amazing dwarf animatronics that leads to a hill with very good airtime, and ends with a nice closing scene at their cottage. It is one of Disney's best attractions.
 
ABQ

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SJN1279 said:
10-15 minutes? There is a reason Epcot had to redo all of its rides. People in today's society for the most part want instant gratification, not 10-15 minute rides. BTW Mystic Manor is 5 minutes in length and RSR is 4 minutes. It is a different era.
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Bah to the attention deficit people. At least Spaceship Earth still takes 15 minutes. In all the poor and ok changes over the years, the omnimover still takes the same amount of time to get through the attraction.
 
TubaGeek

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Mouse Trap said:
I'm hoping for a KUKA arm implementation somewhere other than poor simulation at EPCOT. If we really want to go on a Banshee ride, the KUKA would be awesome.
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There are already a few other instances of KUKA in the parks, but only as show elements.
The complication is that Uni has exclusive rights to use KUKA arms on a moving track, so there aren't May options left. I'm pretty sure the contract expires in five years, though.
SJN1279 said:
King Kong and a Jurassic Park carousel. Can't wait. :p
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You are being sarcastic, right?
 
wm49rs

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SJN1279 said:
People who complain that the Seven Dwarves Mine Train was originally a longer attraction seem to forget that the animatronics were very low tech in that version. I found the Seven Dwarves Train to be the perfect ride length for a coaster. The ride starts off strong, has a great mid point in the mine with the amazing dwarf animatronics that leads to a hill with very good airtime, and ends with a nice closing scene at their cottage. It is one of Disney's best attractions.
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But of course....
 
Disneyhead'71

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SJN1279 said:
People who complain that the Seven Dwarves Mine Train was originally a longer attraction seem to forget that the animatronics were very low tech in that version. I found the Seven Dwarves Train to be the perfect ride length for a coaster. The ride starts off strong, has a great mid point in the mine with the amazing dwarf animatronics that leads to a hill with very good airtime, and ends with a nice closing scene at their cottage. It is one of Disney's best attractions.
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Of course you did. I'm shocked.
 
CinematicFusion

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Look, come to the realization that Disney isn't going to build the type of rides you are expecting. It isn't going to happen. You will never fully appreciate anything Disney builds from here on out. You have finally reached the age of non believing.

Luckily universal is building etickets for the teens and tweens. That won't last forever...enjoy the moment while it lasts.

Disney has and will continue to make huge amounts of cash with the parks as they are. Until something changes and Disney all of the sudden, out of the blue desides for the fun of it to spend 1 billion dollars on top attractions at wdw, what you have is what you get. No amount of crying will change that.
No one can change the outcome...you can decide if you want to go. It's the only choice you have.
Hope if you will...but since I've been on this board, hoping hasn't changed anything.

Enjoy avatar, New fantasyland for what they are.

If you can't to that, your just wasting energy screaming into the dead silence of space. No one important is listening.
 

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