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Disney Parks to Ban Straws

Disney Irish

Well-Known Member
Maybe someday, but it hasn’t happened yet. I understand it’s not just about the straws, but it still strikes me as a bit of a hollow gesture. The new Starbucks lids have more plastic in them than the straws, for goodness sakes. In today’s society I’m skeptical of anything that looks like virtue signaling.
Global change is slow, its the unfortunate nature of a planet built around nations. But change has to start somewhere, so why not here. Because as I said, if you wait for the other guy to start the change it'll never happen.

To quote some famous dude ;):

 

Phrubruh

Well-Known Member
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ANAKIN
We need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problems, agree what's in the best interests of all the people, and then do it.

PADME
That is exactly what we do. The trouble is that people don't wlways agree. In fact, they hardly ever do.

ANAKIN
Then they should be made to.

PADME
By whom? Who's going to make them?

ANAKIN
I don't know. Someone.

ANAKIN
Someone wise.

PADME
That sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me.

ANAKIN
Well, if it works...
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Meanwhile, in Orange County, California, we have several landfills. All of them are heavily regulated by state and federal government, have been engineered to allow no contaminated water leeching into the water table, and are now providing energy back to the community via methane gas filtering as the garbage biodegrades over the years.

This is the massive Bowerman Landfill in Irvine which provides electricity back to Anaheim.


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But if you want to, just live like a Guatemalan and do it this way! So much easier!

 
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Disney Irish

Well-Known Member
ANAKIN
We need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problems, agree what's in the best interests of all the people, and then do it.


PADME
That is exactly what we do. The trouble is that people don't wlways agree. In fact, they hardly ever do.


ANAKIN
Then they should be made to.


PADME
By whom? Who's going to make them?


ANAKIN
I don't know. Someone.


ANAKIN
Someone wise.


PADME
That sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me.


ANAKIN
Well, if it works...
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
China dumps 2.4 million tons (4,800,000,000 pounds) into the ocean. The United States dumps 750,000 pounds. I'm not going to say 750,000 isn't a lot on its own, but considering the size of our nation and how much the rest of the world produces, it's nothing. Further more, banning straws and plastic bags isn't going to make a serious dent even in that number. The majority of trash Americans produce comes from packaging, whether for food, toys, electronics, etc. If you believe we need to deposit less trash in the ocean, start campaigning to get companies to use biodegradable packaging on their products. If it is profitable to do so, then businesses should have no problem switching to make the change. But straws? That doesn't solve anything.
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
China dumps 2.4 million tons (4,800,000,000 pounds) into the ocean. The United States dumps 750,000 pounds. I'm not going to say 750,000 isn't a lot on its own, but considering the size of our nation and how much the rest of the world produces, it's nothing. Further more, banning straws and plastic bags isn't going to make a serious dent even in that number. The majority of trash Americans produce comes from packaging, whether for food, toys, electronics, etc. If you believe we need to deposit less trash in the ocean, start campaigning to get companies to use biodegradable packaging on their products. If it is profitable to do so, then businesses should have no problem switching to make the change. But straws? That doesn't solve anything.
<takes used straw and throws it on TROR's lawn... so little... doesn't make a dent...>
 

Disney Irish

Well-Known Member
China dumps 2.4 million tons (4,800,000,000 pounds) into the ocean. The United States dumps 750,000 pounds. I'm not going to say 750,000 isn't a lot on its own, but considering the size of our nation and how much the rest of the world produces, it's nothing. Further more, banning straws and plastic bags isn't going to make a serious dent even in that number. The majority of trash Americans produce comes from packaging, whether for food, toys, electronics, etc. If you believe we need to deposit less trash in the ocean, start campaigning to get companies to use biodegradable packaging on their products. If it is profitable to do so, then businesses should have no problem switching to make the change. But straws? That doesn't solve anything.
Every piece of plastic (even that straw you think is nothing) and trash that gets removed from the oceans and landfills is one less that gets into the food chain.

Remember that straw the next time you eat some tuna or a hamburger. As animals don't care where it came from when they confuse the little pieces of plastics and trash for food. So one day you could be eating parts of that straw you think doesn't matter.
 

Kram Sacul

Well-Known Member
Every piece of plastic (even that straw you think is nothing) and trash that gets removed from the oceans and landfills is one less that gets into the food chain.

Remember that straw the next time you eat some tuna or a hamburger. As animals don't care where it came from when they confuse the little pieces of plastics and trash for food. So one day you could be eating parts of that straw you think doesn't matter.
You can almost hear the sad violin music. Straws, because it might end up in your burger someday.
 
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