ToTBellHop
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They always want to promote resort stays.I don't think they want to promote resort stays too much lately given their lack of headcount.
They always want to promote resort stays.I don't think they want to promote resort stays too much lately given their lack of headcount.
With 10 day hoppers+ maxing out at $814 during holidays, it would take much more than 15 days if someone isn't local. With younger age adults, it also becomes an issue of having the time off of work available to take an amount that would justify an AP.
It's not that. It's more that they are caught between a rock and a hard place and are unwilling/unable to make the technological changes to address this.I don't think they want to promote resort stays too much lately given their lack of headcount.
Nothing surprises me anymore with Disney. They were once the industry leader. Since Covid it feels like they focused on D+ and recouping all the losses as quickly as possible.It's not that. It's more that they are caught between a rock and a hard place and are unwilling/unable to make the technological changes to address this.
Disney Parks is not a tech company like Disney Streaming. Some historical context here: Disney Parks software historically fell under the marketing umbrella. Until recently, it is very much an ad hoc development environment consisting of mostly patches and bug fixes. Much of the major stuff is outsourced to other companies and then maintained by Disney Parks.
My point is, historically, a tech company like Disney Streaming or Meta would iterate quickly and efficiently as needed. Companies like this consist of smaller teams, focused on one thing and only one thing making sure it is perfect. That is not Disney Parks, yet. They are working towards it and Gail Evans is making the right changes in that area. I cannot stress enough how subpar the software development at Disney Parks is. A lot of that is because Disney is unwilling to pay software engineers the 300-600k many make at other companies nor are they willing to hire outside of Florida, which is where MDX is developed.
If they had, we'd have a unified Park Pass scheduler in the app that worked for groups of any size, any affiliation with clear details on eligibility. Heck, Park Pass isn't even a new app! They literally just made each of the 4 gates an "attraction" in FastPass+ and made the return time "Open to Close" while removing all the other attractions from FastPass+ inventory.
There are 8-12 reservation systems at WDW alone that have no interaction with each other or context into each other whatsoever.
lol, you stole my line!If any of these disincentives go too far, all Disney has to do is reintroduce 'free dining' programs.
It's not done intentionally. They have good people working on this stuff, it's just out of their league. Previously you could get by without being a full blown tech company. But expectations are so high now, Disney Parks needs a team like Disney Streaming.Nothing surprises me anymore with Disney. They were once the industry leader. Since Covid it feels like they focused on D+ and recouping all the losses as quickly as possible.
We were there over the prime spring break week in march. I know of people shut out personally and just went elsewhere (go often but not recent enough to know covid rules). Our server at WCC told a story of a family staying at WL who couldn't get into a park and all through breakfast kept refreshing to try to get in somewhere. Really sad.
Disney totally wiffed, IMO, on this part. On site, you're good. Offsite, here's your pass. Good luck fighting the AP holders too![]()
I agree. Staying on-site but not having a park reservation guaranteed is ridiculous. However, what's Disney's incentive to change? Sadly, they have none because PEOPLE KEEP BOOKING AND PAYING.
Negative behavior will continue until there are negative consequences. Or a recession hits and people stop going. Hopefully, someday, people will wise up and see what Disney's attitude/behavior towards them has been since $lappie took the P&R reigns - Abusive.
It's not that. It's more that they are caught between a rock and a hard place and are unwilling/unable to make the technological changes to address this.
Disney Parks is not a tech company like Disney Streaming. Some historical context here: Disney Parks software historically fell under the marketing umbrella. Until recently, it is very much an ad hoc development environment consisting of mostly patches and bug fixes. Much of the major stuff is outsourced to other companies and then maintained by Disney Parks.
My point is, historically, a tech company like Disney Streaming or Meta would iterate quickly and efficiently as needed. Companies like this consist of smaller teams, focused on one thing and only one thing making sure it is perfect. That is not Disney Parks, yet. They are working towards it and Gail Evans is making the right changes in that area. I cannot stress enough how subpar the software development at Disney Parks is. A lot of that is because Disney is unwilling to pay software engineers the 300-600k many make at other companies nor are they willing to hire outside of Florida, which is where MDX is developed.
If they had, we'd have a unified Park Pass scheduler in the app that worked for groups of any size, any affiliation with clear details on eligibility. Heck, Park Pass isn't even a new app! They literally just made each of the 4 gates an "attraction" in FastPass+ and made the return time "Open to Close" while removing all the other attractions from FastPass+ inventory.
There are 8-12 reservation systems at WDW alone that have no interaction with each other or context into each other whatsoever.
The shell game continues.According to the Ticket/Resort Guest Park Reservations calendars, some dates have been replenished throughout June, along with July 4th again at Magic Kingdom.
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For APs, Magic Kingdom on July 4th has been replenished -
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If this happened to an influencer and they were brave enough to post about it. Word would spread more quickly and parents would hesitate on buying a WDW vacation. But that would never happen because Disney influencers already know the system, it would never happen to them, and they would never dare make a video like that.
It's not that. It's more that they are caught between a rock and a hard place and are unwilling/unable to make the technological changes to address this.
Disney Parks is not a tech company like Disney Streaming. Some historical context here: Disney Parks software historically fell under the marketing umbrella. Until recently, it is very much an ad hoc development environment consisting of mostly patches and bug fixes. Much of the major stuff is outsourced to other companies and then maintained by Disney Parks.
My point is, historically, a tech company like Disney Streaming or Meta would iterate quickly and efficiently as needed. Companies like this consist of smaller teams, focused on one thing and only one thing making sure it is perfect. That is not Disney Parks, yet. They are working towards it and Gail Evans is making the right changes in that area. I cannot stress enough how subpar the software development at Disney Parks is. A lot of that is because Disney is unwilling to pay software engineers the 300-600k many make at other companies nor are they willing to hire outside of Florida, which is where MDX is developed.
If they had, we'd have a unified Park Pass scheduler in the app that worked for groups of any size, any affiliation with clear details on eligibility. Heck, Park Pass isn't even a new app! They literally just made each of the 4 gates an "attraction" in FastPass+ and made the return time "Open to Close" while removing all the other attractions from FastPass+ inventory.
There are 8-12 reservation systems at WDW alone that have no interaction with each other or context into each other whatsoever.
I didn't say it was done intentionally. Lately they seem slow to react or implement things. There is huge disconnect from the top to the people running the parks.It's not done intentionally. They have good people working on this stuff, it's just out of their league. Previously you could get by without being a full blown tech company. But expectations are so high now, Disney Parks needs a team like Disney Streaming.
Disney Parks is not a tech company like Disney Streaming. Some historical context here: Disney Parks software historically fell under the marketing umbrella. Until recently, it is very much an ad hoc development environment consisting of mostly patches and bug fixes. Much of the major stuff is outsourced to other companies and then maintained by Disney Parks.
I cannot stress enough how subpar the software development at Disney Parks is. A lot of that is because Disney is unwilling to pay software engineers the 300-600k many make at other companies nor are they willing to hire outside of Florida, which is where MDX is developed.
Space Mountain.I'd love to know what the oldest/most patched/held together by a prayer system is still in use at Disney Parks.
Peter Pans Flight is older…Space Mountain.
This is coming WAY sooner than later..........I agree. Staying on-site but not having a park reservation guaranteed is ridiculous. However, what's Disney's incentive to change? Sadly, they have none because PEOPLE KEEP BOOKING AND PAYING.
Negative behavior will continue until there are negative consequences. Or a recession hits and people stop going. Hopefully, someday, people will wise up and see what Disney's attitude/behavior towards them has been since $lappie took the P&R reigns - Abusive.
But, arguably certainly, SM is more in need of a new track. Same with SSE.Peter Pans Flight is older…
This is coming WAY sooner than later..........
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