News Disney offers to pay union members at least $15 by 2021

[21stamps]

What aren’t you understanding here?

I’m saying disney is unique in selling goods with a heavy amount of emotional appeal. That is why they can charge what they do for product that would not be comparable in prices without that legacy and attachment.

And why many of us caution: “don’t push it”. A cracked damn is as viable as a broken one...failure is inevitable.

But what about the “wow” factor?!? Isn’t that the emotional, non-tangible perspective?

Or do you climb up the forced perspective storefronts on Main Street USA and lick the paint for a snack...tangibly?

Or is it emotional? Can’t put a price on that...just can’t.

I just edited my previous comment into the answer to your question.
Abbreviated version- No. they are not unique in marketing this way.

The entire travel industry is selling a Dream.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Well...they all think that Wharton knows best..

Wharton DOES know best. Wharton teaches the brightest business minds on the planet how to be successful in a capitalist system that's lifted more people out of poverty and created more wealth in the last 250 years than the prior 200,000 years of H. sapiens combined.

I know it's considered terribly clever among the right-wing populists and left-wing socialists to bash the "elites" these days, but maybe part of the reason the elites are elite because they actually know things. We're in some truly backwards times when it's considered a blemish on someone's character to be highly intelligent and highly educated.

 

[Tom P.]

What aren’t you understanding here?

I’m saying disney is unique in selling goods with a heavy amount of emotional appeal. That is why they can charge what they do for product that would not be comparable in prices without that legacy and attachment.

And why many of us caution: “don’t push it”. A cracked damn is as viable as a broken one...failure is inevitable.

But what about the “wow” factor?!? Isn’t that the emotional, non-tangible perspective?

Or do you climb up the forced perspective storefronts on Main Street USA and lick the paint for a snack...tangibly?

Or is it emotional? Can’t put a price on that...just can’t.

I don't think that makes them unique. Not at all. Everyone selling vacation packages is doing that. You don't think Universal holds an emotional appeal to people beyond just the tangible value of the theme park rides? You don't think when a travel agency sells someone a trip to the Grand Canyon that there is an emotional appeal to that? I would say most, if not all, vacations are based around some level of emotional appeal in addition to the tangibles of the trip. I just don't see how Disney is unique in that regard, other than that they generally do a better job of building an emotional bond with their customers than their competitors do.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

There are certainly some great CPs and some awfully bitter FTs. The issue is that the cyclical nature of the CP program leaves little room for truly passionate, highly skilled lifers who really deliver the magic for many years. Additionally, for every great CP you meet, there's at least two on their way out the door who are over it.

CPs typically start “high” and end “low” after the cycle. The toil is a new experience to them and many come from backgrounds of means.

 

[Nubs70]

Wharton DOES know best. Wharton teaches the brightest business minds on the planet how to be successful in a capitalist system that's lifted more people out of poverty and created more wealth in the last 250 years than the prior 200,000 years of H. sapiens combined.

I know it's considered terribly clever among the right-wing populists and left-wing socialists to bash the "elites" these days, but maybe part of the reason the elites are elite because they actually know things. We're in some truly backwards times when it's considered a blemish on someone's character to be highly intelligent and highly educated.

And should add motivated.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think that makes them unique. Not at all. Everyone selling vacation packages is doing that. You don't think Universal holds an emotional appeal to people beyond just the tangible value of the theme park rides? You don't think when a travel agency sells someone a trip to the Grand Canyon that there is an emotional appeal to that? I would say most, if not all, vacations are based around some level of emotional appeal in addition to the tangibles of the trip. I just don't see how Disney is unique in that regard, other than that they generally do a better job of building an emotional bond with their customers than their competitors do.

Yes...Apple sells on nostalgia...but to the size of Disney?

There are somethings that make disney unique. This thing goes to their Branding...which is unique and it’s hard to dispute. It allows them to go beyond struck textbook finances

 

[21stamps]

I don't think that makes them unique. Not at all. Everyone selling vacation packages is doing that. You don't think Universal holds an emotional appeal to people beyond just the tangible value of the theme park rides? You don't think when a travel agency sells someone a trip to the Grand Canyon that there is an emotional appeal to that? I would say most, if not all, vacations are based around some level of emotional appeal in addition to the tangibles of the trip. I just don't see how Disney is unique in that regard, other than that they generally do a better job of building an emotional bond with their customers than their competitors do.

Exactly.

Disney, Nordstrom.. etc etc etc. there are companies who are at the top of their fields in executing that kind of bond with their customers. It doesn’t make them exclusive in their marketing campaigns or business models.

 

[xdan0920]

Essentially my argument is.....
Consider the market of Central Florida. You have people who are actually skilled or further educated than the CM who are asking for this pay increase. And if the CM get that pay increase, they will be just shy of those skilled workers but without skill. Market conditions matter.
If the entire market "sucks" then the cost of living in the area must be able to match. I managed to live on far less starting pay than the CM are making now, working part time, in Miami of all places (higher cost of living than Orlando). Then I got a degree and skills and moved on from starting pay. Its possible to live at that level but not luxurious. People make decisions with how they spend their money then complain that they don't make enough to do all the things everyone else does. Make better choices and work to improve your conditions. You shouldn't be at starting pay forever.

Ok?

 

[21stamps]

Yes...Apple sells on nostalgia...but to the size of Disney?

There are somethings that make disney unique. This thing goes to their Branding...which is unique and it’s hard to dispute. It allows them to go beyond struck textbook finances

Yes. A brand. That amazing intangible asset.

Disney is a wonderful successful brand. They are far from the only wonderful successful brand. You have to understand that to be able to realize that they aren’t an island. Basic principles of all brands and all vacations and all large corporations will still apply.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Wharton DOES know best. Wharton teaches the brightest business minds on the planet how to be successful in a capitalist system that's lifted more people out of poverty and created more wealth in the last 250 years than the prior 200,000 years of H. sapiens combined.

I know it's considered terribly clever among the right-wing populists and left-wing socialists to bash the "elites" these days, but maybe part of the reason the elites are elite because they actually know things. We're in some truly backwards times when it's considered a blemish on someone's character to be highly intelligent and highly educated.

Question: does Wharton allow legacies to buy their way in? Does Harvard? Does oxford?

And If the answer is “yes”, how does it affect your mission statement above - potentially.


I’ll just ask that...we won’t even get into the reality that half the economists in the US were trained as disciples of theories that have proven false domestically and internationally since the 70s...but not from Penn.

 

[xdan0920]

We're in some truly backwards times when it's considered a blemish on someone's character to be highly intelligent and highly educated.

Where is it considered a blemish? I think the backhanded nature of the Wharton comment has more to do with the state of our economic system rather then the education level of its citizens. It may also have to do with the pomposity that many of these highly educated folks of which you speak carry themselves.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes. A brand. That amazing intangible asset.

Disney is a wonderful successful brand. They are far from the only wonderful successful brand. You have to understand that to be able to realize that they aren’t an island. Basic principles of all brands and all vacations and all large corporations will still apply.

WDW is...near literally...an island. Built via agreement and legislation to have special powers to insulate themselves that exist no where else in the United States.

What’s a word for “one of a kind”?

Read “married to the mouse”. It’s well researched historical fact, not Fan fiction.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Where is it considered a blemish? I think the backhanded nature of the Wharton comment has more to do with the state of our economic system rather then the education level of its citizens. It may also have to do with the pomposity that many of these highly educated folks of which you speak carry themselves.

Thank you...my point is there are always conflicts between theory and reality. The well educated lead the way in bridging the gap.

 

[21stamps]

WDW is...near literally...an island. Built via agreement and legislation to have special powers to insulate themselves that exist no where else in the United States.

What’s a word for “one of a kind”?

Read “married to the mouse”. It’s well researched historical fact, not Fan fiction.

No, they are not. They will follow economic formulas and marketing formulas just like everyone else does. They will strive to be unique, and they are unique in many aspects.. but they are not unique in playing to emotions.

Apparently it doesn’t matter how many people explain this. You just aren’t willing to see it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Exactly.

Disney, Nordstrom.. etc etc etc. there are companies who are at the top of their fields in executing that kind of bond with their customers. It doesn’t make them exclusive in their marketing campaigns or business models.

Nordstrom? That’s really not even a national brand. Big in Texas I hear though...and it’s s store, not a brand

That’s the same to you?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Nordstrom? That’s really not even a national brand. Big in Texas I hear though...and it’s s store, not a brand

That’s the same to you?

That's... wh... I... you... no... bu...

Never mind.

 

[21stamps]

Nordstrom? That’s really not even a national brand. Big in Texas I hear though...and it’s s store, not a brand

That’s the same to you?

Ok. Wow. Clearly you do not have any background in this subject. That’s ok, but I’ll invite you to research on your own if you’d like to learn about branding/marketing/loyalty/intangibles/tangibles... and the companies who have figured out the best formula of all of the above.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, they are not. They will follow economic formulas and marketing formulas just like everyone else does. They will strive to be unique, and they are unique in many aspects.. but they are not unique in playing to emotions.

Apparently it doesn’t matter how many people explain this. You just aren’t willing to see it.

Do you know what lake Buena vista and the reedy creek improvement district are? Honestly?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's... wh... I... you... no... bu...

Never mind.

I agree...”never mind”

We are going nowhere.

 

[21stamps]

That's... wh... I... you... no... bu...

Never mind.

You said it better than I did.