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Herbie

Herbie

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Princess Leia said:
My ideas:
  • All AAs get a makeover- most of them really need it
  • Switch out Footlight with a Fred & Ginger dancing scene
  • keep the Gangster and Cowboy scenes but add Leo DiCaprio from Gangs of New York (which was produced by Miramax-owned by Disney) to the Gangster scene (keeping Cagney of Course)
  • keep Alien (it's still topical)
  • keep Indiana Jones in Egypt- unless Disney builds an IJ land, then find a new home for the Indy & Sallah AAs- or move him to the jungle scene
  • Change the jungle scene to the Jungle Book (2016)
  • Or change the jungle scene to GotG (there, the Guardians are in the parks, Disney, you happy?)
  • keep Casablanca
  • add some more effects to Fantasia
  • keep Wizard of Oz
  • use the original concept of copies of the movie AAs being in the final scene, along with the gangster and bandit
Unfortunately, my list isn't perfect. The newest things on my list are Jungle Book and GotG, and before that, Gangs of New York. I just wouldn't want to move Casablanca from where it is.
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Not to be a harsh critic, but there's something about your choices that wouldn't seem to mesh for me :/ The 2016 Jungle Book has yet to stand the test of time (update: just saw your second comment) and I don't really think it will. Too current, as is Guardians of the Galaxy. Gangs of New York seems a bit off as well. It really would prove difficult to effectively update the ride without cheapening it. Not to say they should replace it. At all. I've heard Titanic thrown out there before, and that seems adequate, but again, would prove difficult to pull off just because of the grand nature of that film (which scene would you do, where, and can it be done?)

Alien should say with updates.
Tarzan and Footlight Parade are the candidates most likely to get the boot. Fantasia is not my particularly favorite scene. And Indiana Jones should be fleshed out elsewhere. Because he doesn't have his own ride, I can withstand representation in the park in two different headliner attractions, but I just wouldn't normally repeat (which is why something like Star Wars shouldn't be tossed in).
 
Princess Leia

Princess Leia

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Herbie said:
Not to be a harsh critic, but there's something about your choices that wouldn't seem to mesh for me :/ The 2016 Jungle Book has yet to stand the test of time (update: just saw your second comment) and I don't really think it will. Too current, as is Guardians of the Galaxy. Gangs of New York seems a bit off as well. It really would prove difficult to effectively update the ride without cheapening it. Not to say they should replace it. At all. I've heard Titanic thrown out there before, and that seems adequate, but again, would prove difficult to pull off just because of the grand nature of that film (which scene would you do, where, and can it be done?)

Alien should say with updates.
Tarzan and Footlight Parade are the candidates most likely to get the boot. Fantasia is not my particularly favorite scene. And Indiana Jones should be fleshed out elsewhere. Because he doesn't have his own ride, I can withstand representation in the park in two different headliner attractions, but I just wouldn't normally repeat (which is why something like Star Wars shouldn't be tossed in).
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The only place I could think of for Titanic would be where Casablanca is now (though Casablanca is the far superior film), but I suppose that if they really wanted to add Titanic, they could use the "I'm flying" moment.

Avatar actually would have been an okay movie to replace Tarzan with (just change the jungle to Pandora), but that's obviously not going to happen now. Forrest Gump is another idea -Forrest, Bubba, Lt. Dan... in Vietnam... okay maybe not... But Jenny could yell "Run, Forrest, run!" and instead of Tarzan swinging across, Forrest could race past the vehicle? idk
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I love the Casablanca moment, but if they wanted to replace it for Titanic, use the front of the ship, Flying moment. use projectors to do the sunset and clouds moving treatment, then at the old Fantasia turn re-style it as iceburg, cool water mist, and on the screen, the ship sinking in the night. At least that would give you a little longer scene...Let's face it, the Fantasia scene is a throwaway... they should really just get the rights to the tornado sequence that was supposed to be there... anything is negotiable...
 
Princess Leia

Princess Leia

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Bocabear said:
I love the Casablanca moment, but if they wanted to replace it for Titanic, use the front of the ship, Flying moment. use projectors to do the sunset and clouds moving treatment, then at the old Fantasia turn re-style it as iceburg, cool water mist, and on the screen, the ship sinking in the night. At least that would give you a little longer scene...Let's face it, the Fantasia scene is a throwaway... they should really just get the rights to the tornado sequence that was supposed to be there... anything is negotiable...
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That sounds like a perfect plan. 2 birds, 1 stone.

Now to fix the Tarzan scene...
 
mary2013

mary2013

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I remember hearing that the plane used in the Casablanca scene was the actual prop from the movie. I don't know if that was true or not.

And IMO, if you're going to take out Casablanca from something called the "Great Movie" Ride, you might as well close down the ride.
 
elchippo

elchippo

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Not that the park needs more Star Wars, but the front part of the alien scene (before you turn and find "you are with Sigourney Weaver!") could very easily become a New Hope scene with the addition of a leftover C3PO and R2-D2 from Start Tours. Rather than eliminate certain films entirely, couldn't some scenes be truncated or combined to add new ones? I'm thinking of the Old west, where you have John Wayne and Clint together on opposite sides of the track.
 
Princess Leia

Princess Leia

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mary2013 said:
I remember hearing that the plane used in the Casablanca scene was the actual prop from the movie. I don't know if that was true or not.

And IMO, if you're going to take out Casablanca from something called the "Great Movie" Ride, you might as well close down the ride.
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Nope, the Casablanca thing isn't true.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/parks/casablanca.asp

I don't want to remove the Casablanca scene (I don't want to remove the ride at all), but it's more than obvious that the ride needs an update. If it was possible, I'd move it to another point in the ride, but I'm not sure what the best location would be.
 
HMF

HMF

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elchippo said:
Not that the park needs more Star Wars, but the front part of the alien scene (before you turn and find "you are with Sigourney Weaver!") could very easily become a New Hope scene with the addition of a leftover C3PO and R2-D2 from Start Tours. Rather than eliminate certain films entirely, couldn't some scenes be truncated or combined to add new ones? I'm thinking of the Old west, where you have John Wayne and Clint together on opposite sides of the track.
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A salute to all movies but mostly Star Wars.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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MansionButler84 said:
In general, I would agree. Except for when I go for a week and notice the same bulbs out. Granted, I probably should focus my attention on things other than light bulbs. It's somewhat noticeable to me at night, though. To be fair, the situation has improved recently. WDW maintenance had SERIOUS issues around 2014-2015, but is dramatically improving.
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No, I didn't mean to imply that they should be out for extended periods of time. The problem when we see a burnt out lightbulb is that it might have gone bad just before we saw it. We all know from everyday life is that we never know when a bulb is going to commit suicide. If it is the same ones over a long period of time, no excuse other then with the number of bulbs in the place, how can we be sure that it is exactly the same bulb? Could be another in the same area and unless we stand there and count out the location, we may be right, but, we are really just guessing that it is the same one. My argument is with fixing something that isn't broken. It may still go for years, it may go for a few more days, but, it needs to be spent before it is changed out. It's not the money... we know that Disney can afford it, it is more basic having to do with the resources it requires to make the items. That is the waste and who recycles lightbulbs? We throw them away.
 
Goob

Goob

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elchippo said:
Not that the park needs more Star Wars, but the front part of the alien scene (before you turn and find "you are with Sigourney Weaver!") could very easily become a New Hope scene with the addition of a leftover C3PO and R2-D2 from Start Tours. Rather than eliminate certain films entirely, couldn't some scenes be truncated or combined to add new ones? I'm thinking of the Old west, where you have John Wayne and Clint together on opposite sides of the track.
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Executives and Imagineers, if you're reading, NO MORE STAR WARS. Thanks.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Goofyernmost said:
I often wonder why they would do that. What a waste of resources. I know some get all uptight about a bulb out here and there, but, unless you do that in your own home (go around and replace perfectly good light bulbs before they no longer work) then I fail to see what possible right we have to demand that of any company, including Disney. It is a waste of money and natural resources. Show? No because until it is out it is pulling its weight and doesn't need to be replaced. Wasteful to the nth degree.
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Color, temperature and brightness all degrade before a bulb burns out, so no, a bulb is not pulling its weight up until it burns out.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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lazyboy97o said:
Color, temperature and brightness all degrade before a bulb burns out, so no, a bulb is not pulling its weight up until it burns out.
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OK, I am a relatively educated and worldly man, but, I don't understand your statement. Could you explain? If it's on it's working, the shade, if it does deteriorate, is always overshadowed and obscured by the others surrounding it. Also if you are stopping long enough to analyze the color, temperature and brightness of each individual bulb, perhaps your priorities are misdirected. It's a theme park... make an attempt to focus on the important stuff.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Goofyernmost said:
OK, I am a relatively educated and worldly man, but, I don't understand your statement. Could you explain? If it's on it's working, the shade, if it does deteriorate, is always overshadowed and obscured by the others surrounding it. Also if you are stopping long enough to analyze the color, temperature and brightness of each individual bulb, perhaps your priorities are misdirected. It's a theme park... make an attempt to focus on the important stuff.
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Lighting is not designed based on being on or off. The various qualities of each light (such as color, temperature and brightness) are specifically chosen as part of the lighting design. Lighting is part of the design, just like everything else.
 

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