Disney movies back on the rise?

[pheneix]

>>>The budget for Mulan was $70,000,000 and the final USA box office was $120,569,593!<<<

No, Mulan's budget was $90,000,000. Don't ask me what IMDB's sources are, but I remember reading several articles about the budget of the film.

Besides, if Mulan were such a success, why has Disney completely brushed it under a rug and hoped everyone will forget about it?

 

[Chad]

Hmm..I am still holding out that Treasure planet will be successful..
Disney did a 'practice run' with Atlantis, learned this lesson, and are doing a 'better' action movie..I hope.

It does have some good things going for it:

1. It has a proven story line...It's just Treasure Island Revisted, that Book has been around forever, so you know it's not going to have a stupid plot.

2. The Characters are more loveable..The Main Character is much younger then Milo, and the sidekicks are more enjoyable, and less plain. The Captain is a cat-like alien, along with a few others that are more interesting.

I think if Disney can't succeed with this one, though, they should throw in the towel. Try it again a bit later.

On a side note, No, Disney should not just 'sit back' and let Dream Works do the cool stuff. If you haven't noticed, their animation department is Crap. Besides Shrek, (which was just making fun of Disney) They haven't been able to muster up a decent animated film. Spirit, which I thought would be the first truly enjoyable SKG Animated film, turned my brain momentarily to jello. Yuck.

 

[Legacy]

Originally Posted by Chad-

On a side note, No, Disney should not just 'sit back' and let Dream Works do the cool stuff. If you haven't noticed, their animation department is Crap. Besides Shrek, (which was just making fun of Disney) They haven't been able to muster up a decent animated film. Spirit, which I thought would be the first truly enjoyable SKG Animated film, turned my brain momentarily to jello. Yuck.

Okay, Im a fan a Dreamworks. I loved Anastasia (Disney-esque though it was), Prince of Egypt and Shrek. I havent seen all of Road to El Dorado but what I have seen I like. Havent seen Spirit, but I will probably like that too. The thing is is that with Atlantis, Disney even halfway copied the style of PoE and RtED. That kinda bothered me. The movies by Dreamworks are a little more mature then typical disney. Antz, Shrek and PoE are evidence of that

 

[MKingdom25]

Originally posted by mktiggerman


you know what.. i'm outta this one. I was wrong, but .. can you people rub it in my face anymore?

Hey mktiggerman, sorry if I seemed to be rubbing in your face. I don't care that much one way or ther other way on this issue. Just thought I'd throw those numbers out there to be used by whomever, however.

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

I heard Atlantis only made 8.2 million in the movies is this true? It was a decent movie, but defianly not Disney-ish. I'd hate to know what the budget was with those numbers...thats less money then what most movies make on opening day only, or sometimes the fifth/sixth weekend(Spider-Man, for example, made more then Atlantis ever made on it's sixth weekend, I believe.)

 

[MKingdom25]

Originally posted by Sorcerer Mickey
I heard Atlantis only made 8.2 million in the movies is this true? It was a decent movie, but defianly not Disney-ish. I'd hate to know what the budget was with those numbers...thats less money then what most movies make on opening day only, or sometimes the fifth/sixth weekend(Spider-Man, for example, made more then Atlantis ever made on it's sixth weekend, I believe.)

According to IMDB, it made a little over $84 million in the USA with a budget of $90 million.

 

[MKCustodial]

Originally posted by mktiggerman


you know what.. i'm outta this one. I was wrong, but .. can you people rub it in my face anymore?

Well, I don't care about the numbers, I still think Mulan was bad.

And Kicker, Road to ElDorado IS really good! It's in the same lines of Emperor's New Groove, only not that much out there. But tha and Shrek are the only Dreamworks I really liked.

 

[wdwmaniac]

Kicker- Anastasia- FOX
Dreamworks-
Sherk
Spirit
Chicken Run
Road to El Dorado
just to name a few.
Also:
The thing is is that with Atlantis, Disney even halfway copied the style of PoE and RtED. That kinda bothered me. The movies by Dreamworks are a little more mature then typical disney. Antz, Shrek and PoE are evidence of that

Dreamsworks copied Bug Life (Antz), Amagenddon (Deep Impact), and Emperor's New Groove- was going to be Kingdom in the Sun (Road to El Dorado). So I wouldn't say Disney copied anyone. Dreamworks did hte real coping. Sherk showed Dreamworks coping isn't always the best when you think for yourself sometime you can come up with a hit.

 

[Erika]

That's true-- wasn't Disney working on Bugs Life when Mr Dreamworks left the company?

 

[Legacy]

Okay, forgot to mention what i thought disney mimiced... the drawing style. I know about antz being a copy, and i never completely thought about road to el dorado and emps new groove, the two completely different stories emp having a more comic feel to it.

The only life action dreamworks i will touch is the more recent ones (gladiator)... i havent even seen deep impact because it was blatant rip off of armegeddon. the thing with dreamworks that is so appealing to me is the fact that they dont care about getting a pg rating in some of thier movies, especially the cgi ones. i mean the princess ant in antz says 'im a princess dam it'. sorry, dont hear that from disney animated flicks.

Anastasia, my b... i thought it was dreamworks. i still like the movie though. chicken run, i havent seen, and i really cant compare to disney at all. the only thing close would be nightmare before christmas or james and the giant peach. in that case though you have to look at the stark difference in direction. dreamworks, wallace and gromit... disney, tim burton. you really cant compare those two.

When i said copied, i was refering to the artistic style. the only story and premise steal i knew of by dreamworks was antz but you are right on the RtED. I didnt bother with deep impact because dreamworks live-action was rather week at the time. it has picked up though. I will always love disney animation, but when im up for a little more feistiness in the movie, ill turn to SKG.

 

[pheneix]

>>>i havent even seen deep impact because it was blatant rip off of armegeddon.<<<

If you ever feel curious about seeing this film, don't. It sucks to no possible end. Not only is a ripoff of Armageddon, but it sucks on it's own as well. It is one of the few movies that was so awful that about midway through it will make you ask yourself, "Why I am I wasting my time with this?"

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

>>>If you ever feel curious about seeing this film, don't. It sucks to no possible end. Not only is a ripoff of Armageddon, but it sucks on it's own as well. It is one of the few movies that was so awful that about midway through it will make you ask yourself, "Why I am I wasting my time with this?"<<

Man, you are so wrong...I was asking myself why I wasted my time on this WAY before midway through the movie

 

[Stitchaholic]

Originally posted by Kicker
FYI Stitchaholic... never challenge a contributer... its not wise when you only have 6 post. It creates a bad first impression.

I don't want to get into this debate but here are the actual numbers from IMDB. The budget for Mulan was $70,000,000 and the final USA box office was $120,569,593!

thanks MKCustodian!

FYI Kicker..... Never challenger a 9 post contributer, it's not wise, when your defently dont know what your talking about, it creates a bad first impression you know! same for you MKTiggerman

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dont you feel like :brick:

i love when people talk like they know something and then they get proven wrong, makes them look like they didnt know anything in the beginning.

 

[Stitchaholic]

Originally posted by pheneix
>>>The budget for Mulan was $70,000,000 and the final USA box office was $120,569,593!<<<

No, Mulan's budget was $90,000,000. Don't ask me what IMDB's sources are, but I remember reading several articles about the budget of the film.

Besides, if Mulan were such a success, why has Disney completely brushed it under a rug and hoped everyone will forget about it?

Disney hasnt brushed it under a rug, it just went Out Of Print like every disney movie, just like snow white, pinocchio, and tarzan. that doesnt mean they have been brushed out, i still have alot of people asking for the Mulan DVD and sadly is Out Of Print

 

[Main Street USA]

Originally posted by Stitchaholic


I don't want to get into this debate but here are the actual numbers from IMDB. The budget for Mulan was $70,000,000 and the final USA box office was $120,569,593!

thanks MKCustodian!

FYI Kicker..... Never challenger a 9 post contributer, it's not wise, when your defently dont know what your talking about, it creates a bad first impression you know! same for you MKTiggerman

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dont you feel like :brick:

i love when people talk like they know something and then they get proven wrong, makes them look like they didnt know anything in the beginning.

Hmmmmm, looks like you have a bit of an attitude. Kicker is right, putting down veteran members and financial contributors to this site is a bad idea. If you want to get kicked out of the forums, well, keep it up. I can promise you it'll happen extremely fast. These members are a family around here. Walking right in and acting like you know it all won't last long.

Making a condescending remark like your "never challenge a 9 post contributor" statement is unacceptable. There isn't a need for that around here. Also, making comments like "don't you feel like :brick:" is considered flaming, again, unacceptable.

If you want to talk movies like a mature adult, then please feel free to do so on this site, but if you want to keep posting comments like those above, you'll have to do it elsewhere. Keep your opinions as just that, opinions. What you think is no more important than what anybody else thinks, so stop talking down to people.

 

[Stitchaholic]

oh yeah mr mainstreet, i was just quoting what he said

Originally posted by Kicker
FYI Stitchaholic... never challenge a contributer... its not wise when you only have 6 post. It creates a bad first impression.

so i guess he also flamed at me for no reason! if you read the thread i wasnt even challenging anyone according to mr kicker, i was just correcting someone about there fault so i dont know why im getting attacked by this character and about veteran members and financial contributors that doesnt give them the right to treat others bad when contributers that have 6 posts are right and "these" veteran members and financial contributors are wrong! and put new comers down.

Making a condescending remark like your "never challenge a 9 post contributor" statement is unacceptable. There isn't a need for that around here. Also, making comments like "don't you feel like " is considered flaming, again, unacceptable.

i guess that also apply to your friend Kicker :lol: :lol: :wave:

 

[Main Street USA]

Originally posted by Stitchaholic
oh yeah mr mainstreet, i was just quoting what he said



so i guess he also flamed at me for no reason! if you read the thread i wasnt even challenging anyone according to mr kicker, i was just correcting someone about there fault so i dont know why im getting attacked by this character and about veteran members and financial contributors that doesnt give them the right to treat others bad when contributers that have 6 posts are right and "these" veteran members and financial contributors are wrong! and put new comers down.



i guess that also apply to your friend Kicker :lol: :lol: :wave:

Um, no, you're wrong in both cases. Kicker's comment was genuine advice. Your response was made to be sarcastic and condescending, in a way making fun of him. Although these two comments look similar, they are, indeed, two VERY different remarks.

I have read every post in this thread and you are the only one making any comments that could POSSIBLY be percieved as an attack. Anyone who can read AND comprehend what they are reading can see that.

 

[Stitchaholic]

well i didnt know you could see how i feel when i write this post? when im so far away, im sure you dont see me thru your monitor screen can you? this might sound to you rude im sure, but im not been rude or anything so since i dont wanna argue and i provedmy point about mulan. im just gonna ignore future post by you two characters since i really dont care for, cause of your rudeness.

 

[Main Street USA]

Wow, you are really showing your young age here, man.

The fact that you say you will not read any further posts only means that you don't have a reasonable response to my comments. Also, everyone reading this thread knew that your comment was meant to be mean. Saying "don't you feel like:brick:" proves it.

In the future, learn not to contradict yourself. It REALLY helps when your trying to lie.


p.s. - Try using punctuation in your posts, it not only helps the reader, it also helps you look like you know what you're talking about.

 

[Stitchaholic]

is so funny i didnt know god gave you the power to know what's going in other people's brains, i dont need to lie everything is posted there! no need to lie if people are gonna read it! be pretty dumb, dont you think? and about "don't you feel like :brick:" that how he made me feel when i was right and he was wrong. so after this post i wont answer you cause is not worth trying to make sense to someone that doesnt want to get it and you can say whatever you want about me, you can say i lie, i steal, im just a 11 post contributer, still doesnt clean up or hide that you two are rude to new comers.