News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[Purduevian]

it is against the law for a business to demand proof of vaccination of services to customers.

Look at how the DCL is getting around this though:
"For Cruises departing from Florida through December 31, 2021, Guests 12 and older must provide proof of a valid travel insurance policy that has a minimum of $10,000 per person in medical expense coverage and $30,000 coverage for emergency medical evacuation and no COVID-19 exclusions. Guests who are fully vaccinated may choose to provide proof of vaccination in order to be exempt from travel insurance requirements and pre-trip and embarkation testing requirements"

I imagine private businesses can make whatever rules they want no matter how crazy and then provide an exemption if you choose to show proof of being fully vaccinated.

Disney World could say all guests must quarantine on Journey into Imagination with Figment for 3 straight hours before being allowed into the rest of the resort. Guests who are fully vaccinated may choose to provide proof of vaccination in order to be exempt from this Quarantine.

It isn't technically demanding proof of vaccination, but they can make you jump through a lot of hoops if you choose no to show them proof.

 

[FantasiaMickey2000]

I get that everyone has different tolerance levels, but I don’t think I’d cancel a trip over this. Not that I want to wear a mask forever, but it’s become so “normal” I don’t mind putting one on to go inside. I’m not saying anyone’s wrong and I support your decision for your comfort level. Saying all that I’m SUPER annoyed we’ve come back to this.

Do you mind putting on a mask while standing in the blazing heat for outdoor attractions? Because you’ll have to do that again. Indoors at Disney is not indoors by common sense definitions.

 

[Touchdown]

I’m so disappointed that so many of my fellow citizens are either too lazy to read past a headline or lack 6th grade reading skills. The CDC changed its guidelines because new evidence suggests a vaccinated person can be contagious even without symptoms. That’s the only reason things changed, not the spike in cases, not due to political pressure, not due to anything else. They aren’t 100% convinced on this finding because if they were it would be nationwide, but it’s enough concern to put it in place in high spread areas and in schools to protect kids.

How do I know so much about this? Because I read the press conference transcript and actually read some news articles in their entirety, I know I know it was incredibly hard and time consuming!

 

[legwand77]

It is legal to require vaccines as a condition of employment, as is the case for flu vaccine. This has been litigated. However, I do not know if the question of an EUA classified vaccine has been litigated.

It continues to be litigated, it will go to Supreme Court most likely, Supreme Court has already decided mandates can be set at state/local level. Going to be a lot of legals cases real soon

 

[durangojim]

I told you all people were cancelling. Even some on here are too. This change has triggered it whatever the reason

Maybe this means some good discounts for October and more availability. We've got a room at the YC for second week of October but at rack rate. I'd much prefer to get a deal or even stay at a DVC with points.

 

[durangojim]

I'm thinking rope drops will be changed too as well, as in removed. Doesn't matter too much if you're outside if you are right next to many people for an extended period of time.

 

[FantasiaMickey2000]

I’m so disappointed that so many of my fellow citizens are either too lazy to read past a headline or lack 6th grade reading skills. The CDC changed its guidelines because new evidence suggests a vaccinated person can be contagious even without symptoms. That’s the only reason things changed, not the spike in cases, not due to political pressure, not due to anything else. They aren’t 100% convinced on this finding because if they were it would be nationwide, but it’s enough concern to put it in place in high spread areas and in schools to protect kids.

How do I know so much about this? Because I read the press conference transcript and actually read some news articles in their entirety, I know I know it was incredibly hard and time consuming!

Then you’d also know the CDC used a lot of “mays” and “maybes” in their press conference and hasn’t released their data yet.

 

[Andrew C]

Doesn't matter too much if you're outside if you are right next to many people for an extended period of time.

It actually does matter. It is still so much better than being in this situation indoors. By a long shot.

 

[legwand77]

I’m so disappointed that so many of my fellow citizens are either too lazy to read past a headline or lack 6th grade reading skills. The CDC changed its guidelines because new evidence suggests a vaccinated person can be contagious even without symptoms. That’s the only reason things changed, not the spike in cases, not due to political pressure, not due to anything else. They aren’t 100% convinced on this finding because if they were it would be nationwide, but it’s enough concern to put it in place in high spread areas and in schools to protect kids.

How do I know so much about this? Because I read the press conference transcript and actually read some news articles in their entirety, I know I know it was incredibly hard and time consuming!

that is one of the biggest problem with all this

 

[dav23]

A few months ago I was very much against any kind of vaccine passport, this being America and all. But now it’s the only mitigation method that really makes sense to me as a way to get the “hesitant” to take action. Why should the rest of us suffer to coddle the insecurities of the selfish and/or misinformed?

 

[durangojim]

It actually does matter. It is still so much better than being in this situation indoors. By a long shot.

It's better but not good. the proximity and length of time are still issues regardless of being inside or out.

 

[Andrew C]

It's better but not good. the proximity and length of time are still issues regardless of being inside or out.

That is not what the evidence suggests. But no point in debating it really as Disney is going do what they think is best.

 

[Touchdown]

Then you’d also know the CDC used a lot of “mays” and “maybes” in their press conference and hasn’t released their data yet.

Yes because as I said above they are not fully convinced and the updated guidelines are out of caution while they wait for more data. If they fully believed this study the indoor masks would be back nationwide.

 

[tlking88]

I've been firmly in the "wear a mask" category throughout COVID and before it even hit the U.S. as I was in South Korea when it was breaking out in February 2020. However, once the vaccine and the data surrounding it became available, I am finding it harder to accept that people's choice not to take a vaccine means I have to wear a mask. I am not the risk to others. And since when did the number of cases become the sole focus? The whole point of the lockdowns and masks was to prevent people from dying. At this point the people dying are the ones who didn't get the vaccine, the vast majority of which COULD get the vaccine but choose not to. #choices
I am open to data that proves otherwise, but so far I haven't seen it.

Data from the Delta variant is showing that those that are vaccinated are capable of spreading this variant if they are to test positive at this point. This is a new development that has come to light with this particular variant. It is showing it is more transmissible with times less than 1 sec inside along with testing positive 2-3 days earlier. They are also carrying at a higher viral load than previous strains... So even if you are vaccinated it is possible you now a risk to others as this strain has evolved

The more time it has in the population the better it is getting at avoiding and beating vaccinations and treatments. It has been seen with antibiotic resistant bacteria they evolved to beat the antibiotics. COVID will continue to do the same in places where it continues to thrive.

 

[DisneyCane]

I’m so disappointed that so many of my fellow citizens are either too lazy to read past a headline or lack 6th grade reading skills. The CDC changed its guidelines because new evidence suggests a vaccinated person can be contagious even without symptoms. That’s the only reason things changed, not the spike in cases, not due to political pressure, not due to anything else. They aren’t 100% convinced on this finding because if they were it would be nationwide, but it’s enough concern to put it in place in high spread areas and in schools to protect kids.

How do I know so much about this? Because I read the press conference transcript and actually read some news articles in their entirety, I know I know it was incredibly hard and time consuming!

Wasn't there a whole back and forth yesterday with a "beyond the headlines" discussion about what the CDC director actually said in reference to this?

The quote was something to the effect of "in rare cases of breakthrough infections evidence suggests that a vaccinated person may be able to spread the virus."

That was the justification used to change the guidance, not the reason it was changed.

All I know is that back when daily cases were higher than they are now and there was no vaccine available, somebody told me that I would only have to wear a mask until April 30, 2021, "not forever." Since that time, vaccines have become available, I and 163 million other Americans are fully vaccinated and for some reason we're being told to keep wearing masks. It's getting to seem a lot closer to "forever" than to April 30th.

 

[DisneyCane]

Yes because as I said above they are not fully convinced and the updated guidelines are out of caution while they wait for more data. If they fully believed this study the indoor masks would be back nationwide.

Data from the Delta variant is showing that those that are vaccinated are capable of spreading this variant if they are to test positive at this point. This is a new development that has come to light with this particular variant. It is showing it is more transmissible with times less than 1 sec inside along with testing positive 2-3 days earlier. They are also carrying at a higher viral load than previous strains... So even if you are vaccinated it is possible you now a risk to others as this strain has evolved

The more time it has in the population the better it is getting at avoiding and beating vaccinations and treatments. It has been seen with antibiotic resistant bacteria they evolved to beat the antibiotics. COVID will continue to do the same in places where it continues to thrive.

Please link to the studies and/or data that the CDC is using. I'd like to read through the source information for myself and analyze the results.

 

[Touchdown]

It’s beyond pointless continuing to argue with people who refuse to believe a plausible stated reason an agency changed its recommendations because the “conspiracy theory” fits their world view better. Don’t want to be wearing a mask now? Go to a state where there isn’t high or substantial spread. The Northeast and Midwest can be lovely this time of year, especially if you go to one of the areas many lakes.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Do you mind putting on a mask while standing in the blazing heat for outdoor attractions? Because you’ll have to do that again. Indoors at Disney is not indoors by common sense definitions.

I don’t like it but I’ve done it. Like I said, everyone has a different tolerance level, no one is right or wrong. Some people will do it for the vacation and some people will cancel/reschedule. As Jim McPhee said “it’s a guest choice environment”.

 

[legwand77]

It’s beyond pointless continuing to argue with people who refuse to believe a plausible stated reason an agency changed its recommendations because the “conspiracy theory” fits their world view better. Don’t want to be wearing a mask now? Go to a state where there isn’t high or substantial spread. The Northeast and Midwest can be lovely this time of year, especially if you go to one of the areas many lakes.

and then stay away from there in the fall/winter when it will be bad there.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I'm thinking rope drops will be changed too as well, as in removed. Doesn't matter too much if you're outside if you are right next to many people for an extended period of time.

Are these photos from 2019? ..... JK, WOW