News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[durangojim]

A lot of masks have been half off since day one...

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You mean chin diapers, lol

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's a little soon to be playing monday morning quarterback on how companies should have planned to go through a once in a century-level pandemic, isn't it?

No...it’s not.

maybe “bobs fun park” in Topeka Kansas...but who are we talking about here?

wouldn’t have hurt to have the 5,000 O&T peeps “throw something together”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yep, plenty of people for the virus to chew through as we get into Fall.

...That’s for the Gods on Mt. Olympus to decide

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Sure, but for effective immunity, which explains current trends, we have 51% vaccinated (we know we can include 1 shot or 2 due to the UK) and ~35% of the population has had COVID-19. 35% of the remaining 49% unvaccinated is 17.1%. Effective immunity is about 68%, heavily skewed toward adults.

It’s 74% of those over age 12.
75.9% of those over 18.
91% of those over 65.

Where is that 35% number coming from? A quick search gives me closer to 10%. This also doesn't take into account that some people who caught COVID are included in the vaccination numbers.

Either way, active and new cases are the most important metric in terms of when to relax restrictions, IMO.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Where is that 35% number coming from? A quick search gives me closer to 10%. This also doesn't take into account that some people who caught COVID are included in the vaccination numbers.

Either way, active and new cases are the most important metric in terms of when to relax restrictions, IMO.

CDC estimates 1 in 3 Americans have been infected with COVID-19

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates about 35% of all Americans have been infected with COVID-19 over the last year.

www.google.com

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It is appalling that they didn’t learn from Disneyland’s closure for the 1918-20 flu epidemic. Walt must’ve been turning in his grave, screaming “you don’t need a mask outdoors!”

I’m just curious...

are we supposed to laud Disney for “inventing” the theme park....and providing the most well planned, “immersive” “experiences” that wads of American cash can buy? With tens of thousands of employees?

...or are they the “little half a trillion dollar company that could”?

That fence post is gonna chaffe...

 

[disneygeek90]

People that got covid did get the vaccine. You can't add 35% to the raw total immunity rate because there is some overlap. I think there is more hesitancy with people that were already infected, but reasonable if you're going to say 35% got covid, potentially half of those got the vaccine too.

 

[ToTBellHop]

People that got covid did get the vaccine. You can't add 35% to the raw total immunity rate because there is some overlap. I think there is more hesitancy with people that were already infected, but reasonable if you're going to say 35% got covid, potentially half of those got the vaccine too.

I didn’t. I took 35% of the remainder. It’s a safe estimate.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

People that got covid did get the vaccine. You can't add 35% to the raw total immunity rate because there is some overlap. I think there is more hesitancy with people that were already infected, but reasonable if you're going to say 35% got covid, potentially half of those got the vaccine too.

The 35% is also an estimate. The number of confirmed COVID cases is closer to 10%. That remaining 25% don't know if they had COVID or just a cold/flu. They may have had minimal or no symptoms. I'd lean towards estimating that the majority of that 35% who are estimated to have had COVID would get the vaccine.

Adding 35% to the immunized total feels overly optimistic to me.

 

[ToTBellHop]

The 35% is also an estimate. The number of confirmed COVID cases is closer to 10%. That remaining 25% don't know if they had COVID or just a cold/flu. They may have had minimal or no symptoms. I'd lean towards estimating that the majority of that 35% who are estimated to have had COVID would get the vaccine.

Adding 35% to the immunized total feels overly optimistic to me.

There is nothing to suggest those who’ve had Covid are more likely to get the shot. So we can take the percentage vaccinated (51%) and assume about 35% of the remaining 49% have had Covid. That adds a further 17.15%. So 68%. Falling case numbers support that estimate being pretty accurate.

 

[djkidkaz]

I wonder how long until cast members wearing masks will be optional? I’ve noticed places like Target and Publix have started to allow their employees to not wear masks. And obviously a lot of smaller shops have allowed it as well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I didn’t. I took 35% of the remainder. It’s a safe estimate.

the only that matters now is the vax rate...

if we extrapolate how many people had it...didn’t know...and have some mystical longterm immunity...we’re going to undercount...

not to mention the potential for variants...long term potential consequences no one can predict...etc etc.

don’t declare victory.

as Costner says in the Untouchables: “never stop the fight until the fighting is done”

 

[ToTBellHop]

I wonder how long until cast members wearing masks will be optional? I’ve noticed places like Target and Publix have started to allow their employees to not wear masks. And obviously a lot of smaller shops have allowed it as well.

It already is going to be for some CMs. It’s rapidly changing.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I wonder how long until cast members wearing masks will be optional? I’ve noticed places like Target and Publix have started to allow their employees to not wear masks. And obviously a lot of smaller shops have allowed it as well.

proof of vaccination? I’m all for it

 

[ToTBellHop]

the only that matters now is the vax rate...

if we extrapolate how many people had it...didn’t know...and have some mystical longterm immunity...we’re going to undercount...

not to mention the potential for variants...long term potential consequences no one can predict...etc etc.

don’t declare victory.

as Costner says in the Untouchables: “never stop the fight until the fighting is done”

I’m not declaring victory. I’m trying to estimate effective immunity to explain trends. It is still important to vaccinate. And there are signs that optimism, loosened mask mandates, and carrots (cash prizes or free rides to college, etc.) and getting sleeves rolled up. It’s far more effective than the CDC Director telling us what keeps her up at night.

 

[Rescue Ranger]

I'm fine with this. I can still bring my mask and keep it with me if I feel the need to use it. This has all gone on long enough.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It seems the end of any mask mandate for WDW is dramatically accelerating.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m not declaring victory. I’m trying to estimate effective immunity to explain trends. It is still important to vaccinate. And there are signs that optimism, loosened mask mandates, and carrots (cash prizes or free rides to college, etc.) and getting sleeves rolled up. It’s far more effective than the CDC Director telling us what keeps her up at night.

I’m a minimalist...I like to keep things simple.

they track who’s had doses. Simple...easy...effective...not ambiguous or subject to stupidity

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It seems the end of any mask mandate for WDW is dramatically accelerating.

accelerating from what?

our predictions here? Not to side with Disney...but they never said anything about it. We were just taking guesses. They only thing they’ve said is they’re not giving up reservations...that’s it.

many things are “unsaid” from them.

 

[ToTBellHop]

accelerating from what?

our predictions here? Not to side with Disney...but they never said anything about it. We were just taking guesses. They only thing they’ve said is they’re not giving up reservations...that’s it.

many things are “unsaid” from them.

Accelerating from the previous plan.