News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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mickey0825

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It isn't coming unless congress passes a bill that bans states from banning vaccine passports. If they do and it is signed into law it will be challenged in court faster than you can say "Mickey Mouse."

I put the chances of a bill passing at less than 10%. I don't think it would even get enough votes in the House of Representatives and that would be the easiest step in the process.

As I've said before, the only possible vaccine passport I could see is one required to pass through TSA security at the airport. That won't move the needle because anti-vax people will just drive instead of flying.
This will get all the way to the Supreme Court if those type of mandates are put into place. I agree other than maybe flying and cruising, there's no way a mandate will be passed to do every day things....and again this is from someone who is fully vaccinated
 

legwand77

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also CDC recommends

Women of childbearing age should avoid alcohol unless they're using contraception
Wear a swimming cap while swimming
Do not drink alcohol before getting in a hot tub, also shower and use soap before getting in
Do not eat sushi
No raw cookie dough
No q-tip in your ear
no medium hamburgers, or raw oysters
Also recommends schools to mandate hats and sunglasses for all students, for sun safety.

Might have broken many of these, possibly all in one night ;)
 

DisneyCane

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That’s like me! I’ve gone 4 times this year and was set that I was done with the mask mandates gone. Now that they are back, I might be too lol.
I think you are giving way too much credit to the added protection. We are dealing with nearly 100% the Delta variant and no study has even attempted to determine how effective masks are against the Delta variant. You will still be in crowded indoor queues with areas of poor ventilation.

If you didn't feel safe at WDW without a mask mandate, there is no evidence that says you should feel safe now with Delta as the dominant variant.
 

G00fyDad

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I've never observed many Asian Americans wearing masks regularly. I frequently go to Las Vegas during flu season and there is a large Asian population there. I don't think I've seen more than a handful wearing masks total in all of my pre-COVID visits. I have also been to San Francisco during flu season (although it's been 10 years or so since my last visit) and don't recall seeing any Asian person wearing a mask.

A decent percentage do in Asia (at least since SARS) but it's nowhere near the entire Asian population.

Sorry. I was joking around but I was referring to those actually living in the Asian countries. :)
 

G00fyDad

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Mostly so they can feign compliance while feeling like a freedom fighter - and then turn around and play the victim if someone asks them to wear it properly.
Truth Reaction GIF by MOODMAN
 

legwand77

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They weren't very clear on that. What they said was that in rare cases of breakthrough infections they've observed viral loads similar to unvaccinated infected people which suggests that vaccinated people may be able to transmit the virus.

There is no clarity. I believe that the change in mask guidance was because "cases" are going up and they couldn't be seen as not doing anything for PR reasons. Changing the mask guidance was something they could "do" without too much backlash. If they changed the guidance to places with high community transmission should go back to lockdowns there would be riots so they changed the mask guidance.
Fair, I do think it was clear it was about vaccinated people being able to spread it, they did say rare, but remember CDC is not tracking mild cases in vaccinated people, on hospitalized cases. I think they are seeing it is not rare but no good proof yet. Anecdotally I know of many mild symptomatic cases from vaccinated in the past few weeks. Those are not being tracked at all.

I do agree, mainly that the government felt like they had to "do" something.
 

Chip Chipperson

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IMHO if so many had not lied by omission we wouldn't have gotten so bad. The honor system didn't work because far too many are dishonorable

Exactly! I've seen so many <insert Clark Griswold's rant after opening his Jelly of the Month Club subscription from "Christmas Vacation" here> post nonsense on social media about how they "identify as vaccinated" as if they're the most clever person to ever be born.
 

legwand77

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I think you are giving way too much credit to the added protection. We are dealing with nearly 100% the Delta variant and no study has even attempted to determine how effective masks are against the Delta variant. You will still be in crowded indoor queues with areas of poor ventilation.

If you didn't feel safe at WDW without a mask mandate, there is no evidence that says you should feel safe now with Delta as the dominant variant.
I think there is too much weight given to the Delta variant if masks are really effective. The hotspots, like Florida are currently at the levels they were in cases last year at this time. Remember last year, masks were much more mandated and in use, Disney was barely open, very low capacity, masks required indoors and outdoors. We are at the same levels as before now with everything being 100% wide open now, (that will change tomorrow in Disney.) If Delta was so much more worse we should way above case numbers for last year. The vaccines are helping by pretty much in keeping people from dying and severe illness, which is great, that would happen regardless of whatever mask rule is in place.
 

disneygeek90

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I think there is too much weight given to the Delta variant if masks are really effective. The hotspots Florida are currently at the levels they were in cases last year at this time. Remember last year, masks were much more mandated and in use, Disney was barely open, very low capacity, masks required indoors and outdoors. We are at the same levels as before now with everything being 100% wide open now, (that will change tomorrow in Disney.) If Delta was so much more worse we should way above numbers fro last year. The vaccines are helping but pretty much in keeping people from dying and severe illness which is great, that would happen regardless of whatever mask rule is in place.
On the contrary, we’re seeing levels that we haven’t seen in months despite 60% being virtually immune. That’s not a good look. The vaccines are absolutely helping in preventing actual cases for a majority of those people.
 

FantasiaMickey2000

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To me, I think this is a complete joke. They can’t pretend to care about spread of the virus by forcing people to wear masks while cramming those same people into extremely confined spaces with zero social distancing. A mask can’t save you if you’re jammed in next to a positive person for an extended period of time. If they really want to try and slow the spread like they claim, hotel and park reservations need to be cancelled and reduced capacity and social distancing needs to return. Yet again, this isn’t about slowing the spread. It’s about PR.
 

legwand77

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On the contrary, we’re seeing levels that we haven’t seen in months despite 60% being virtually immune. That’s not a good look. The vaccines are absolutely helping in preventing actual cases for a majority of those people.
That is not how the vaccine works, it doesn't prevent infection in the truest sense. It prevents you from getting a mild or severe case once infected/exposed. It triggers an immune system response when infected. We are finding out that some people vaccinated have high a high load of the virus and in some cases asymptomatic. This is changing quickly.
 
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dreday3

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Let's see how the numbers pan out for the WDW 50th anniversary for the week of October 1st.

Hardly anyone is going to cancel October over this. Lots of bloviating about it going on, but no action. (cue the "I cancelled" posts)

First, it's just indoors/lines - most people are fine with that.
And then it would one of the dumbest decisions ever to cancel an October reservation over what's happening right now anyways.

Don't get me wrong, I hope all the people follow through with their threats to cancel and I then I can have a less crowded trip taking all the pictures I want of the golden Dante statue in peace. ;)
 

pdude81

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I think there is too much weight given to the Delta variant if masks are really effective. The hotspots, like Florida are currently at the levels they were in cases last year at this time. Remember last year, masks were much more mandated and in use, Disney was barely open, very low capacity, masks required indoors and outdoors. We are at the same levels as before now with everything being 100% wide open now, (that will change tomorrow in Disney.) If Delta was so much more worse we should way above case numbers for last year. The vaccines are helping but pretty much in keeping people from dying and severe illness which is great, that would happen regardless of whatever mask rule is in place.
With 60% of people in Florida vaccinated, the numbers are roughly the same. Also when you get to 15% or so positive tests, that indicates uncontrolled spread and undercounts. Your post has no actual opinion on masking so I'm trying to even understand what the point is other than to confuse the issue.
 

GhostHost1000

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To me, I think this is a complete joke. They can’t pretend to care about spread of the virus by forcing people to wear masks while cramming those same people into extremely confined spaces with zero social distancing. A mask can’t save you if you’re jammed in next to a positive person for an extended period of time. If they really want to try and slow the spread like they claim, hotel and park reservations need to be cancelled and reduced capacity and social distancing needs to return. Yet again, this isn’t about slowing the spread. It’s about PR.
Exactly. Mostly safety theater and perception
 

G00fyDad

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To me, I think this is a complete joke. They can’t pretend to care about spread of the virus by forcing people to wear masks while cramming those same people into extremely confined spaces with zero social distancing. A mask can’t save you if you’re jammed in next to a positive person for an extended period of time. If they really want to try and slow the spread like they claim, hotel and park reservations need to be cancelled and reduced capacity and social distancing needs to return. Yet again, this isn’t about slowing the spread. It’s about PR.

Wrong. It's about money.
 

GhostHost1000

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Hardly anyone is going to cancel October over this. Lots of bloviating about it going on, but no action. (cue the "I cancelled" posts)

First, it's just indoors/lines - most people are fine with that.
And then it would one of the dumbest decisions ever to cancel an October reservation over what's happening right now anyways.
That is not true. People are cancelling this morning. Not sure how many but some are. Whether it’s because of masks or because of new spread the announcement has made people rethink their fall trips
 
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