GimpYancIent
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Don't forget decontamination stations at the entrance / exit of every establishment. Don't skimp.
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News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks
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The idea as presented was I could have covid and not know it.
Wearing a mask will protect people from me.
Made sense to me so I went with it.
I personally feel people don’t need protection from me anymore because I’m vaccinated but I know most people here think differently.
I guess you didn’t notice the economic impact the first round of mitigation’s had.
Maybe if you owned a gym restaurant or other business that requires full capacity without restrictions to be profitable your attitude wouldn’t be “so?”
yensidtlaw1969
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You're wrong and this is dangerous misinformation - N95s are designed specifically to protect the wearer, which is why medical professionals dealing with COVID patients wear them, to protect themselves from catching COVID while they work with infected people.
However, N95 masks are not an unlimited resource, and there was a shortage at the beginning of the Pandemic, so regular people were discouraged from buying them because Medical Professionals NEEDED them to help treat COVID patients. Doctors and Nurses were dying from lack of N95 masks because regular people were buying them up, not understanding that an N95 Mask only works properly if fitted to you by a professional. So N95s would be wasted on the average person.
Instead, regular Cloth Masks were encouraged for the general public as Source Control rather than Respiratory Protection. Cloth masks would stop sick people from spreading COVID and getting others sick, and since many people were asymptomatic for weeks it was impossible to know who actually WAS sick, so EVERYONE was told to wear them. But Source Control only works if everyone partakes, since Cloth Masks don't stop COVID from getting into an uninfected person, they only stop them from getting out of an infected one. Since it can still be weeks before an infected person shows signs of being infected, people are encouraged to assume they ARE infected and wear a mask to prevent the chance of spreading their potentially infected droplets. Regulations are different to account for Vaccination status, but this is the baseline.
So yes, wearing a Cloth Mask (or other, non-N95 Mask) IS about protecting other people, because the only mask capable of actually offering Respiratory Protection to the wearer was in dangerously short supply. Production has gone up since, but again, you need to be fitted properly for it to to effective, so unless you have a professional who can fit it to you there is no point in trying to wear an N95 to protect yourself.
Look up Source Control vs. Respiratory Protection if you need to understand more.
Tom P.
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I hope that I have posted for long enough here that even folks who think I'm nuts know that I don't troll.
Whether he is a reputable source or not is up for debate. He is clearly a right-wing activist with a particular point of view. As I said, that's obvious from his reference to "RINO" governors. That said, when he says that he has spoken to White House sources about this, I personally believe that. Now, I'm not saying that the White House or governors *will* impose new lockdowns. But I do not doubt for a second that there are discussions ongoing about the possibility.
I hope that I have posted for long enough here that even folks who think I'm nuts know that I don't troll.
Whether he is a reputable source or not is up for debate. He is clearly a right-wing activist with a particular point of view. As I said, that's obvious from his reference to "RINO" governors. That said, when he says that he has spoken to White House sources about this, I personally believe that. Now, I'm not saying that the White House or governors *will* impose new lockdowns. But I do not doubt for a second that there are discussions ongoing about the possibility.
Like the sources he used to justify spreading the false Pizzagate theory that led to a shooting or the very debunked Seth Rich conspiracy?
kong1802
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Can’t get em all right…lol that guy is a complete joke. How anyone can find anything about him reputable is beyond me.
We seem to be scrapping the bottom of the barrel here. Is an infowars clip coming next?!
DisneyCane
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An N95 respirator (without outlet vents) doesn't act like a check valve and only filter incoming air. The reason medical N95 respirators don't have outlet vents is because they are serving two purposes. They are protecting the wearer from inhaling a virus or bacteria and, in a situation like a surgery, they are preventing (mostly due to bacterial infection concerns) viruses and bacteria from leaving the medical provider and entering the patient.
To whatever extent they block things, cloth masks are also bidirectional. Fitting an N95 is not rocket science. They aren't custom made. You just try the various sizes and there is a test scent and you see if you can smell it. N95 is designed to block 95% of particles of the size of concern so they aren't perfect either, even when properly fitted. They are a lot closer to perfect than cloth masks with no standard specification. I could have a cloth mask that blocks 10% of droplets and you could have one that blocks 50% of droplets and we both are complying with a policy or mandate.
yensidtlaw1969
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Precisely - and how many of these people who don't even understand the function of masks as Source Control are going to have that understanding to make their N95 work the way it's supposed to? There were stories of people spending exorbitant amounts of money to get their hands on N95's and then catching COVID immediately after because they were wearing them improperly but assumed they were under greater protection.
At this point I'm not aware that there's any longer a shortage of N95's, so wear one if you want and know how and have access. My whole point in posting was to directly refute the falsehood that the poster I quoted was spreading, which was the idea that there was no point in wearing a mask that didn't offer you Respiratory Protection, which is not the case. And as you said, to wear an N95 with outlet vents is to not be participating in Source Control, so it's still improper given the circumstances.
There would have been more 600K dead worldwide if those 110K businesses remained open during the pandemic so there's that.
GhostHost1000
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Is there any real evidence and proof that places that required masks did better than those places that did not? I know there are instances in Texas and Florida where cases actually went down so honest question because I haven’t seen any real data on that one way or the other….just assumptions that well masks may help block particles so it’s gotta slow the spread…but did it?
It is sad that some grown questionable mature adults cannot follow instructions and policy and they are not even drunk yet.
danv3
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We certainly know that cases didn’t skyrocket in Texas when it dropped its mask requirement this spring, despite warnings.
I will take the CDC call on it and mask up. Try going to the hospital ER if one needs to. The wait, the service , the overcrowding with covid patients , and that's just for starters .
CTC
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Yes. Schools. And I am not talking about little kids. 99% of cases we saw in our high school did not happen in the building due to strict masking.
DisneyCane
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If any change is made by Disney for WDW based on the new guidance from the CDC they will have to make the change at DL also. There is a lot of talk about the disaster that is FL but Orange County, California has the same red rating for community transmission as Orange County, FL.
As an aside, does either one still have any producing orange groves?
As an aside, does either one still have any producing orange groves?
Polkadotdress
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CDC Director Rochelle Walensky cites the fact that due to higher viral load, vaccinated are also believed to be able to spread the virus.
Roy G. Dis
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There's no scientific study where one group was the control group and told to not wear masks and the other group was told to wear masks and Covid cases between the two were tracked.
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