News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[DonniePeverley]

Why is the mask such a bizarre contentious issue in the USA? Total idiots.

Just wear one, especially indoors.

 

[Trauma]

Indoor Masks (to me) seem like a minimal inconvenience at WDW compared to social distancing and plexiglass. If we need to “pick a poison”. YMMV

Do we get to pick a poison?

Once masks return and cases continue to rise most here will start calling for additional mitigation’s.

Whatever that next step is who knows, I guess social distancing.

Remember they want masks back to slow the spread.

If that doesn’t work additional measures will be needed.

 

[DonniePeverley]

Do we get to pick a poison?

Once masks return and cases continue to rise most here will start calling for additional mitigation’s.

Whatever that next step is who knows, I guess social distancing.

Remember they want masks back to slow the spread.

If that doesn’t work additional measures will be needed.

What's your point ?

 

[maui2k7]

Because the highest concentration of the viral load (spit) is still stopped by the mask and kept from traveling to others. The aerosols that end up fogging people's glasses both have lower concentration of the virus AND dissipate quickly in the air.

That's why the 6 foot guideline was put in place in addition to masks - by the time aerosols have moved 6 feet away from a person they are basically not potent enough to infect someone. So if you stop the spit with a mask and keep out of range of aerosol, the chance of infection is generally low.

This has been being said for over a year.

And they said that the cases in Texas would skyrocket in March when we dropped the mask mandate, yet that did not happen. Cases continued to drop. Vaccines are the way out of this, not masks.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

If you look at the news going around in England, they were reporting that most of their hospitalizations were among the unvaccinated as well. Once they actually got well into the variant going around, it ended up being about 40 percent hospitalized that were vaccinated. And that’s what I was referring to when I said going around like crazy. They were under mask mandates, closures, and high rates of vaccination.

First, the statistic is that 60% are unvaccinated. Technically, they never said that the other 40% were fully vaccinated so there are likely people in that group who had 1 dose instead of 2. I can see why you would assume that's the case, but it's an assumption rather than a fact. It's a subtle but important distinction.

Second, the AZ vaccine has a lower efficacy than the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines that are the primary vaccines here in the US.

Third, what percent of fully vaccinated people have been hospitalized? Even if all 40% are fully vaccinated, what is the number of people hospitalized vs. the number vaccinated? I bet the math will show that millions of vaccinated people haven't been hospitalized while the number hospitalized is much smaller in comparison.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

And they said that the cases in Texas would skyrocket in March when we dropped the mask mandate, yet that did not happen. Cases continued to drop. Vaccines are the way out of this, not masks.

You're right about Vaccines - but masks help in the meantime until a sufficient percentage of the population IS vaccinated.

 

[DisneyCane]

The WWII reference posted earlier is spot-on. It's like saying everyone has to turn off the lights around their houses at night to avoid enemy bombers and a few idiots won't because "mah freedumbs!!" and everyone is at risk because of it

It isn't remotely the same thing. Also, everyone is not at risk from COVID. The large percentage of fully vaccinated people are at very low risk, even from delta. Maybe there is a "risk" of being infected with SARS-CoV-2 but not of getting very sick with COVID. They aren't the same thing.

 

[Tom P.]

The masks people are are generally ill fitting but they are better than nothing. Numerous peer-reviewed studies show that masking is one of the most effective tools of this pandemic.

When did our standard for what we should do become "better than nothing"?

 

[maui2k7]

You're right about Vaccines - but masks help in the meantime until a sufficient percentage of the population IS vaccinated.

Then let the unvaccinated wear them.

 

[Mr. Moderate]

After a year and a half of this, fair isn't an applicable standard.

I know And I apologize if I sounded almost childish or unreasonable here. I’m actually a realist and a “is what it is” type of guy. I’m just disappointed because I’ve seen this coming for the past three months and I knew it was gonna happen, but it seemed a large amount was oblivious to the reality of the situation. For a short while when it seemed like the vaccines were the turning point, I guess I was just hoping beyond belief that the majority of Americans would sign up and do the right thing by getting the shot. Just too much infighting and Ridiculous conspiracy theories and of course politics too. I just wish that we as Americans could get all on the same page, take the vaccine, and be done with this, but no, we as a country seem to fight about everything. Just yesterday I made the mistake of talking to an fellow employee at my workplace, that I’ve known for years and he went on a ridiculous anti-vaccination conspiracy rant, to be honest, and it was kind of shocking. He seemed to be regurgitating all the talking points you see on Facebook and social media. With where he gets his news from I know that he’s not alone in his ideals and thoughts.

 

[TrojanUSC]

When did our standard for what we should do become "better than nothing"?

There are vehicular fatalities but we still wear seatbelts. People get food poisoning but we still have food handling rules. Nothing is foolproof, but masks are a proven effective tool at mitigation.

 

[pdude81]

If the types of masks most people buy (such as from amazon) still end up with peoples glasses getting fogged up, how exactly is masking stopping the virus from escaping anyone’s mask unless they are using an N95? This seems like more a symbolic gesture than an effective method.

N95 stops nothing getting out. Only stops a (relatively high) percentage of particles from getting in

 

[Trauma]

N95 stops nothing getting out. Only stops a (relatively high) percentage of particles from getting in

So when they said the mask is to protect others not yourself that was just bs?

 

[DisneyCane]

Today the CDC’s mask guidance is a “recommendation”. Not a mandate. So isn’t it likely that Disney can in turn just make a “recommendation” that people , vaccinated and/or unvaccinated wear masks indoors ? Which will basically be at the discretion of the individual.

It has always been "guidance" from the CDC. The CDC doesn't have the power to mandate anything.

They are also incompetent. They couldn't develop a reliable test early on and they failed to discover COVID in various parts of the US before it started spreading. The acronym stands for Centers for Disease Control and they were caught flat footed and didn't control anything. The flip flopping mask guidance after two months is just the latest failure. One of the two changes had to be wrong.

The Delta variant was known and was ripping through India before they made the change to the guidance in May so don't tell me that's how science works.

Either it was the wrong guidance in May or the wrong guidance today. They can't both be correct.

 

[DisneyCane]

If the types of masks most people buy (such as from amazon) still end up with peoples glasses getting fogged up, how exactly is masking stopping the virus from escaping anyone’s mask unless they are using an N95? This seems like more a symbolic gesture than an effective method.

I can easily fog my sunglasses through the front of an "approved" cloth mask. The fit of most masks on most people is just redirecting the droplets up and to the sides instead of down.

 

[pdude81]

So when they said the mask is to protect others not yourself that was just bs?

They weren't talking about masks with exit holes like an N95. Which is why they didn't count anywhere that masks were required. That is, unless you put a cloth mask over top of it

 

[GimpYancIent]

So when they said the mask is to protect others not yourself that was just bs?

Yes! Finally someone gets it. A person wears a mask to filter the air they intake to protect themselves from others. Only if the wearer has COVID does filtering exhaled air offer a degree of protection to others.
Oh yes P.S. the folks that are really serious about masks should wear P100 respirators, way more effective than N95's.

 

[Trauma]

Yes! Finally someone gets it. A person wears a mask to filter the air they intake to protect themselves from others. Only if the wearer has COVID does filtering exhaled air offer a degree of protection to others.
Oh yes P.S. the folks that are really serious about masks should wear P100 respirators, way more effective than N95's.

Wow this whole time I was doing it to protect others.

Im vaccinated I don’t need to protect myself.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Wow this whole time I was doing it to protect others.

Im vaccinated I don’t need to protect myself.

Well have to admit the slogan of "wearing a mask to protect others" is catchy and sounds good, yeah, being considerate of others. Actually think about it, if you do not have COVID wearing a mask to prevent others from catching it from you is?

 

[DisneyCane]

Yes! Finally someone gets it. A person wears a mask to filter the air they intake to protect themselves from others. Only if the wearer has COVID does filtering exhaled air offer a degree of protection to others.
Oh yes P.S. the folks that are really serious about masks should wear P100 respirators, way more effective than N95's.

The mask up crowd has won me over. I'm going to propose a hazmat suit mandate at the next county commissioner meeting..