News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[Armerius]

The reinfection rate is 0.4% including first wave, second wave and variants. Stop the fear mongering.

then i guess all the persons i knew who died with reinfections were just very very unlucky

 

[Tom P.]

Mitigation measures do work. Look at Australia’s low death rates. We just don’t want to be bothered and use the “my freedom” as an excuse.

Mitigation measures are worthless. You point to one place that has done well. I can point to others, including the UK as well as some of our own states that had the tightest restrictions, that did not do well. We are simply unable to control the spread of a highly contagious virus throughout the population. It cannot be done. And that is all the more reason that people should get vaccinated. We should be laser focused on vaccinations and absolutely nothing else right now. "Get vaccinated" is the only message that people need to hear, loudly and in unison, about the pandemic.

 

[Armerius]

Yes but if you look at the MONTHS England was in a lockdown with the delta variant going around it was spreading like wildfire there despite the lockdown, strict mask mandate and business policies, and one of the highest vaccination rates. Not to mention 40 percent of hospitalizations were vaccinated people.

do you know where i can find the info about how many of those 40% of vaccinated actually ended up in ICU?

 

[jimbojones]

You could be right. However, keep in mind that Disney has always allowed people to wear masks. Yet when you look at the parks since they dropped the mask rule, virtually no one is wearing them. Even as we've seen the Delta numbers rise, even as it's been discussed for days that the CDC was going to change its guidance, do you see people masking up in the parks? That alone leads me to believe that more people would be upset with being told to mask up than those who would be upset that Disney doesn't require masking. But, again, I could be wrong.

To clarify, I have kids who are too young for the vaccine. It seems many on these forums are "adult fans of Disney" with older kids or no kids. and also a Disney forum in general is not likely representative of the average visitor. So my basic point is that I think many folks on this forum are making big claims about the result of making indoor masks required again and that I think the impact could be net neutral because folks like me who do Disney for the kids might be reassured by masking. Any post on these forums is an anecdote at best, unless you work for Disney market research.

 

[Armerius]

Mitigation measures are worthless. You point to one place that has done well. I can point to others, including the UK as well as some of our own states that had the tightest restrictions, that did not do well. We are simply unable to control the spread of a highly contagious virus throughout the population. It cannot be done. And that is all the more reason that people should get vaccinated. We should be laser focused on vaccinations and absolutely nothing else right now. "Get vaccinated" is the only message that people need to hear, loudly and in unison, about the pandemic.

dont worry at some point vaccines will be mandatory.. everywhere. but thats going to be another drama

 

[fgmnt]

No. Don't comply with these authoritarian orders for a second time. Just stop complying, take the power away from these corrupt politicians and give it back to the people.

Yeah dude, that's why I fly down the highway at 130 mph when I drive to Disney and spit in the face of TSA agents when I fly there. I can afford to go since I haven't paid taxes in 8 years. Gotta show the guvmint I won't follow their rules and I'm sure you do the same.

 

[ElvisMickey]

People did it all last summer, they can do it again this summer.

There was no vaccine last summer. And no, thanks. Disney’s not THAT important. I’ll sit at home in my pool not only not wearing a mask, but not wearing…

 

[MrMichaelJames]

Mitigation measures are worthless. You point to one place that has done well. I can point to others, including the UK as well as some of our own states that had the tightest restrictions, that did not do well. We are simply unable to control the spread of a highly contagious virus throughout the population. It cannot be done. And that is all the more reason that people should get vaccinated. We should be laser focused on vaccinations and absolutely nothing else right now. "Get vaccinated" is the only message that people need to hear, loudly and in unison, about the pandemic.

They can't control the spread because people are not going to do what they are supposed to do. Simple as that. People are selfish animals. Lockdowns worked initially, then people got bored and said "Look! No one is getting sick that I know of! It must be fine so then people starting coming out again and saying lockdowns didn't work because look at all the sick people now." Lockdowns work, the best evidence is those that followed them didn't get sick while they were following them.

 

[dsnygrl86]

do you know where i can find the info about how many of those 40% of vaccinated actually ended up in ICU?

The prime minister made a statement about it not too long ago. He actually had to correct himself because he “mistakenly said 60%, but meant 40% were vaccinated.”

 

[LittleBuford]

Yes but if you look at the MONTHS England was in a lockdown with the delta variant going around it was spreading like wildfire there despite the lockdown, strict mask mandate and business policies, and one of the highest vaccination rates. Not to mention 40 percent of hospitalizations were vaccinated people.

How do you know it wouldn't have been worse without mitigations? I also wouldn't overestimate the extent or stringency of the "lockdown".

 

[Armerius]

The prime minister made a statement about it not too long ago. He actually had to correct himself because he “mistakenly said 60%, but meant 40% were vaccinated.”

yes but i would like to see how many of those 40% actually ended up in ICU. or died. thats the important part for me xD

 

[dsnygrl86]

yes but i would like to see how many of those 40% actually ended up in ICU. or died. thats the important part for me xD

Well I believe hospitalized means you are being admitted and treated. Regardless, it’s not as low of a number for avoiding hospitalization as our CDC has tried to make everyone believe.

 

[dsnygrl86]

How do you know it wouldn't have been worse without mitigations? I also wouldn't overestimate the extent or stringency of the "lockdown".

So what are we vaccinating for if a country with a high rate of vaccination and mitigation is still having that crazy of a spread and hospitalization among the vaccinated?

 

[AshaNeOmah]

To clarify, I have kids who are too young for the vaccine. It seems many on these forums are "adult fans of Disney" with older kids or no kids. and also a Disney forum in general is not likely representative of the average visitor. So my basic point is that I think many folks on this forum are making big claims about the result of making indoor masks required again and that I think the impact could be net neutral because folks like me who do Disney for the kids might be reassured by masking. Any post on these forums is an anecdote at best, unless you work for Disney market research.

My kids are 5 and 7. We were in SeaWorld, Busch Gardens, and Legoland two weeks ago without masks. I am an adult Disney fan but have kids that travel virtually everywhere with me. Both my kids had perfect attendance in school last year in one of the few districts in the country where no mask was required. We were either lucky or smart, with no Coivd in our household the entire pandemic.

I know kids can definitely catch Covid, I also know that there have been severe cases and deaths, but the odds are so far in the kids favor that having them mask up when their household is fully vaccinated is unnecessary. I highly doubt requiring kids to wear masks is a neutral act to Disney's bottom line.

 

[Armerius]

Well I believe hospitalized means you are being admitted and treated. Regardless, it’s not as low of a number for avoiding hospitalization as our CDC has tried to make everyone believe.

well remember there is not much of a treatment for covid pretty much its to be in observation and take you to icu if needed. but checking why the cases have going down in england this days its because of schools it seems. they have found some correlation between the end of classes and the decline in cases

 

[MrMichaelJames]

then i guess all the persons i knew who died with reinfections were just very very unlucky

In a study 63 of the 9,119 patients (0.7%) with severe COVID-19 infection contracted the virus a second time, with a mean reinfection period of 116 days. Of the 63 who were reinfected, two (3.2%) died. So I really doubt you know "A LOT" of people that died. Lets not exaggerate.

do you know where i can find the info about how many of those 40% of vaccinated actually ended up in ICU?

There aren't. It wasn't a valid stat. I believe the number they said was actually 60% of those vaccinated ended up in the hospital then right after that they corrected it and said it was wrong. 60% of those UNvaccinated ended up in the hospital.

 

[fractal]

This is the first pandemic where we figured out how to safely save the vast majority of people who might die over the course of years, also. I don't think anybody questions that there are effective vaccines to this, so you lose credibility in anything else you say after putting quotes around vaccination as if it's a doll with pins in it.

"Hey, we got sick and didn't die. Plus we traveled all over the place and weren't all that careful, so it's all good."

That proves nothing except that you don't care if you get or spread the virus. You thankfully survived and had some level of natural immunity due to being sick before, but there have been no indications I've seen anywhere that a bout with an early strain is more protective against Alpha or Delta than an mRNA vaccine.

If you have proof to the contrary, feel free to share.

Reread my first paragraph.

 

[Ayla]

If they plan to reinstate for indoors then they need to come out guns blazing.

Put out a statement outlining the mask rules and state implicitly - if you do not follow these rules you will be walked out by security and not allowed back. Ever.

They should also firmly state ABSOLUTELY NO REFUNDS.

 

[dreday3]

They should also firmly state ABSOLUTELY NO REFUNDS.

Yep.

 

[AshaNeOmah]

They should also firmly state ABSOLUTELY NO REFUNDS.

It'd be on par with recent offerings and customer service decisions. No surprises with the Chapek way.