News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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Heelz2315

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“Layers of protection” for vaccinated people who the science proves the overwhelming majority don’t spread or catch Covid. The layers of protection is unwarranted and not needed
 

DCBaker

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That's fine. But it's the unvaccinated who need the mask, not the vaccinated. If there is no incentive to get a vaccine, many just won't get one. After all, that's why things are supposedly opening up at WDW because people are getting vaccinated and masks are no longer required. UNLESS the Orange County mayor requires it just as LA county in CA has. He's already one step away -- he "implores" you to wear a mask indoors regardless of vaccination status. I wouldn't be surprised to see a re-enacted mandate by next week.

He knows he can't and had the OC attorney in the press conference today explain why he can't reimpose a mask mandate.
 

Otterhead

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Want to know why the federal government is frustrated that they're not getting the vaccinated numbers they would like? This is why. If you have to wear a mask even if you've been vaccinated why bother getting it? (Full disclosure: I'm vaccinated.)


As to why to wear masks: vaccines aren't 100% effective; nobody ever said they were. And they don't prevent you from *getting* the disease, they prevent you from getting *affected* by the disease. You can still potentially transmit it, which in a theme park full of unvaccinated kids is kind of a big deal.
 

JohnD

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As to why to wear masks: vaccines aren't 100% effective; nobody ever said they were. And they don't prevent you from *getting* the disease, they prevent you from getting *affected* by the disease. You can still potentially transmit it, which in a theme park full of unvaccinated kids is kind of a big deal.

Then the Mayor should be appealing to the unvaccinated to get vaccinated ASAP. Not telling the vaccinated to wear masks.
 

wdwmagic

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Layers of protection are not needed if you are vaccinated. The vaccine itself is sufficient. All of the numbers we are seeing today bear that out.

That's fine. But it's the unvaccinated who need the mask, not the vaccinated. If there is no incentive to get a vaccine, many just won't get one. After all, that's why things are supposedly opening up at WDW because people are getting vaccinated and masks are no longer required. UNLESS the Orange County mayor requires it just as LA county in CA has. He's already one step away -- he "implores" you to wear a mask indoors regardless of vaccination status. I wouldn't be surprised to see a re-enacted mandate by next week.

“Layers of protection” for vaccinated people who the science proves the overwhelming majority don’t spread or catch Covid. The layers of protection is unwarranted and not needed

The World Health Organization on Friday urged fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks, social distance and practice other Covid-19 pandemic safety measures as the highly contagious delta variant spreads rapidly across the globe.

“People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves,” Dr. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products, said during a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters.

“Vaccine alone won’t stop community transmission,” Simao added. “People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene ... the physical distance, avoid crowding. This still continues to be extremely important, even if you’re vaccinated when you have a community transmission ongoing.”

 

JohnD

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The World Health Organization on Friday urged fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks, social distance and practice other Covid-19 pandemic safety measures as the highly contagious delta variant spreads rapidly across the globe.

“People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves,” Dr. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products, said during a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters.

“Vaccine alone won’t stop community transmission,” Simao added. “People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene ... the physical distance, avoid crowding. This still continues to be extremely important, even if you’re vaccinated when you have a community transmission ongoing.”


I've said my piece. Thanks.
 

Disney Glimpses

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The World Health Organization on Friday urged fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks, social distance and practice other Covid-19 pandemic safety measures as the highly contagious delta variant spreads rapidly across the globe.

“People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves,” Dr. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products, said during a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters.

“Vaccine alone won’t stop community transmission,” Simao added. “People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene ... the physical distance, avoid crowding. This still continues to be extremely important, even if you’re vaccinated when you have a community transmission ongoing.”

I'd personally love if we would follow the WHO guidance; because then we would stop putting masks on two year olds and removing families with young kids from flights.
 

durangojim

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I think there's a couple of things that we need to look at here. The vaccines, while highly effective don't prevent all transmission and infections of COVID. They do however decrease the severity to a level which does not require hospitalization. What that means is that you can still catch COVID, even though it is unlikely, and still feel poor even after having the vaccine. I've had a couple of patients who have had both the J&J vaccine along with an employee who had the Moderna vaccine become sick enough to need to stay home for a week. They survived and were not as severe as my patients who had not been vaccinated but they were still ill nonetheless. I understand the reluctance and inconvenience of needing to wear a mask. When we were at WDW for 2 weeks, 3 weeks ago we did not wear masks outside but did when we were in crowded queues. It was funny to get the same kind of looks from people without their masks that we received on the few times we forgot to wear a mask when we were there last July. My kids are old enough to be vaccinated and we all have been. Towards the end of the trip we didn't do many rides and stopped wearing the mask. For the first time in 14 months my daughter became sick and developed a sinus infection. Not a big deal but it is interesting that that coincided with our decision not to wear masks. My wife and I are flying back down this Wednesday and we'll be wearing a mask anytime we're indoors. I'm not worried about getting COVID but I just don't feel like taking a chance on getting sick due to current trends.
 

CJR

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The World Health Organization on Friday urged fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks, social distance and practice other Covid-19 pandemic safety measures as the highly contagious delta variant spreads rapidly across the globe.

“People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves,” Dr. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products, said during a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters.

“Vaccine alone won’t stop community transmission,” Simao added. “People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene ... the physical distance, avoid crowding. This still continues to be extremely important, even if you’re vaccinated when you have a community transmission ongoing.”


What's the point then? If the vaccine is not working, why get it? That's essentially what this is telling the people who have yet to receive a vaccine.

This is saying that layers of protection don't hurt. Unvaccinated Americans see, "the vaccine doesn't work".

If the vaccine works, you don't need a mask. It either works or doesn't.
 

PrincessNelly_NJ

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I think you're severely underestimating what level of done many people are. More people than you would probably realize are 100% done. Do not pass go. Do not stop for $200. Unwilling to bend at all under any circumstance in regards to masks any if they are fully vaccinated. Indoors, outdoors, they just don't care. They definitely wouldn't be wearing them on trains or planes if they weren't being forced either. Many are counting down until they don't have to do that.
I'm one of them but it is what it is.... I don't see a huge difference in having to wear a mask for the bus ride to/from my resort and wearing it for a short theme park ride.
 

wdwmagic

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What's the point then? If the vaccine is not working, why get it? That's essentially what this is telling the people who have yet to receive a vaccine.

This is saying that layers of protection don't hurt. Unvaccinated Americans see, "the vaccine doesn't work".

If the vaccine works, you don't need a mask. It either works or doesn't.
I think some people out there need to get some basic intelligence. If they are so simple minded they can't understand a very basic concept I'm not sure what else to say.

Nobody has ever said the vaccine is 100% effective. Therefore when we are seeing huge increases in numbers it would seem obvious that more needs to be done. Masks and distancing got the Disney area down to 5%. Unvaccinated people carrying on like there is no problem have now moved that back to 16% as of yesterday. It isn't working.
 

Tom P.

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The World Health Organization on Friday urged fully vaccinated people to continue to wear masks, social distance and practice other Covid-19 pandemic safety measures as the highly contagious delta variant spreads rapidly across the globe.

“People cannot feel safe just because they had the two doses. They still need to protect themselves,” Dr. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines and health products, said during a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters.

“Vaccine alone won’t stop community transmission,” Simao added. “People need to continue to use masks consistently, be in ventilated spaces, hand hygiene ... the physical distance, avoid crowding. This still continues to be extremely important, even if you’re vaccinated when you have a community transmission ongoing.”

The World Health Organization is wrong on this, as they are on so many things. Simply looking at the data shows that virtually all hospitalizations and deaths right now are coming from unvaccinated people, even with the Delta variant spreading rapidly. And there have been at least 9 published, peer reviewed studies at this point showing that vaccines do not just stop serious disease, but dramatically decrease infection and transmission, even asymptomatic infection and transmission. There is no reason what-so-ever for a vaccinated person to wear a mask at this point. Vaccines work. The data proves it. It's that simple.
 

StarWarsGirl

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The rest of my group is vaccinated. I am not (which is a long story, but basically due to a previous allergic reaction to a vaccine, I can only get Moderna and only at a hospital, and trying to get it has been an exercise in frustration). The rest of my group has been wearing masks even though they're all vaccinated. No one's been sick with even a cold for the past year. I'm not sure what the big deal about wearing a piece of fabric over your face is; I happen to love my cute masks.
 

MKFanatic

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If you start telling the vaccinated to mask up and social distance again (not just in Disney, but across the country) you're going create an ugly situation. You can't hold half the country back because the other half disagrees with vaccines. What happened to my body my choice? The line in the sand has been drawn. If you know the vaccinated are safe, focus on the unvaccinated who are still unsure.
 

wdwmagic

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Simply looking at the data shows that virtually all hospitalizations and deaths right now are coming from unvaccinated people, even with the Delta variant spreading rapidly
From the UK today.

Sixty percent of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of a coronavirus vaccine, according to the government's chief scientific adviser.
 

JohnD

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I think there's a couple of things that we need to look at here. The vaccines, while highly effective don't prevent all transmission and infections of COVID. They do however decrease the severity to a level which does not require hospitalization. What that means is that you can still catch COVID, even though it is unlikely, and still feel poor even after having the vaccine. I've had a couple of patients who have had both the J&J vaccine along with an employee who had the Moderna vaccine become sick enough to need to stay home for a week. They survived and were not as severe as my patients who had not been vaccinated but they were still ill nonetheless. I understand the reluctance and inconvenience of needing to wear a mask. When we were at WDW for 2 weeks, 3 weeks ago we did not wear masks outside but did when we were in crowded queues. It was funny to get the same kind of looks from people without their masks that we received on the few times we forgot to wear a mask when we were there last July. My kids are old enough to be vaccinated and we all have been. Towards the end of the trip we didn't do many rides and stopped wearing the mask. For the first time in 14 months my daughter became sick and developed a sinus infection. Not a big deal but it is interesting that that coincided with our decision not to wear masks. My wife and I are flying back down this Wednesday and we'll be wearing a mask anytime we're indoors. I'm not worried about getting COVID but I just don't feel like taking a chance on getting sick due to current trends.

We should start looking at COVID the way we treat the flu. Like the flu, vaccines would help prevent you from getting it. Now, you could still get COVID even if vaccinated because from a different variant. However, the severity would be less. During swine flu season in 2008, I still got the flu after getting the flu vaccine. Why? I got a strain that wasn't in the vaccine (H1NB that would have been in the shot but for swine flu that year) but it kept the symptoms down. We just need to get to the point of an annual COVID vaccine, if that is what it takes, and move on with our lives rather than the continual living in fear.
 

Ripken10

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ehh... I understand your point but you would cancel just for having to wear a mask for a few minutes in air conditioning?
I would think (IMO) that IF they reinstated the policy for indoor mask wearing (a big if IMO) that it would be the same as right before they got rid of masks, meaning that you would have to wear it in all queue lines. That would be quite a bit longer that a few minutes, and in many cases not air conditioning.

We were there in the transition - mid trip the rule changed. There is a huge difference to not having to wear a masks in lines. I didn't think it would be that big a deal, but honestly I would not go back if a mask rule for indoors was reinstated. Not a shot. The trip was so much better after the mask rule went away - and this comes from someone that was wearing my mask constantly before the trip.
 
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