Disney lets child molester employee escape

[dadddio]

You call the Coast Guard.

What would the coast guard do with a non-US flagged ship in international waters?

 

[dadddio]

You report the crime to the proper authorities.

Or you don't report it and pay for the criminal's safe passage home.

I guess the difference depends on whether you're more interested as being viewed as a decent company or actually being one.

It should be noted that they did report it. The attacker was taken into custody in the Bahamas.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

You report the crime to the proper authorities.

Or you don't report it and pay for the criminal's safe passage home.

I guess the difference depends on whether you're more interested as being viewed as a decent company or actually being one.

I think Violet was asking more what a passenger can do inboard the ship...who can YOU contact if there is a crime and the crew members aren't helping you. 911 would have worked in this case but everyone should know what emergency numbers to call when they travel which is why I posted the link for international emergency numbers earlier. It's a good thing for travelers to know and to keep with them while abroad and one that is too often overlooked.

 

[nytimez]

It should be noted that they did report it. The attacker was taken into custody in the Bahamas.

It should be noted that they did not report it immediately, as it should have done and as Disney said it was required to do.

 

[nytimez]

That is one pretty sentence. It appears to be grammatically correct. It doesn't have spelling errors. It's all around awesome.

Still, 'immediately' ain't ever going to happen in the given scenario.

Considering that the given scenario has already taken place, I'd say you finally managed to hit one on the head.

Congrats.

 

[dadddio]

Considering that the given scenario has already taken place, I'd say you finally managed to hit one on the head.

Congrats.

Two, actually. The other one was when you blew the timeline yesterday.

The thing about calling the police immediately when the boat is about to pull away is that no one is going to make that call without shooting it up the chain of command.

Also, it would not at all surprise me to find that Florida law either does not say 'immediately' or it defines it differently that your dictionary does.

 

[luv]

That is one pretty sentence. It appears to be grammatically correct. It doesn't have spelling errors. It's all around awesome.

Still, 'immediately' ain't ever going to happen in the given scenario.

Why so you think that is? Do you think Disney has instructed their employees not to call the police immediately upon a report of child molestation...or any other crime? If so, I agree. Disney drags their feet on calling the cops and attempts to get victims to drop it.

I didn't know they'd actually pay to fly criminals to other countries, though. That is news to me. Can't say I'm shocked, though.

 

[nytimez]

Two, actually. The other one was when you blew the timeline yesterday.

The thing about calling the police immediately when the boat is about to pull away is that no one is going to make that call without shooting it up the chain of command.

It would not at all surprise me to find that Florida law either does not say 'immediately' or it defines it differently that your dictionary does.

"blew the timeline?" LOL.

Not going to get in the circular argument with you. You can keep claiming otherwise, but the facts speak differently.

 

[dadddio]

Why so you think that is? Do you think Disney has instructed their employees not to call the police immediately upon a report of child molestation...or any other crime? If so, I agree. Disney drags their feet on calling the cops and attempts to get victims to drop it.

I'm not saying that, at all. What I'm saying is that typical behavior is to alert your superior when the poo is about to hit the fan. Further, in that situation, the CM who took the report certainly doesn't have the authority to stop the ship and the timeline doesn't give very much time to shoot it up the ladder.

I didn't know they'd actually pay to fly criminals to other countries, though. That is news to me. Can't say I'm shocked, though.

I don't know what they could have done, at that point. The scumbucket had been released by the authorities. It's not like they could have forced him back on the boat and made him return to Florida.

Also, their contract with him apparently required them to pay his way. It's also possible that it was paid for with money that had been deducted for this purpose.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

I used to be an assistant purser on a ship. That means Front Desk to some people and Complaint Department to others. It was likely an Asst Purser that the grandmother spoke to about the incident. I guarantee no one "immediately" called the Police...why? First they wouldn't have a phone, 2nd they would have called either Security or the Chief Purser and let them deal with it because the front line employees are in no way equipped, trained or expected to deal with crimes on board a ship.

Let's say they called the Chief Purser (their manager) then they would likely call Security and the ball actually starts rolling. It really does depend how you define immiade...my definition in this case means the grandmother says "My granddaughter was just assaulted" and the Assistant Purser picks up the phone that doesn't exist and starts dialling.

There is no immediate calls to Police. If you have to imagine a different scenario imagine a kid gets harassed at recess. He tells the Hall Monitor - that person is not going to call the police they are going to call someone with the ability to handle the situation. A hall monitor with no phone has about the same immediate access to police as the Assistant Purser on a ship.

"Immediate" is not a possibility in this case.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

Also, their contract with him apparently required them to pay his way. It's also possible that it was paid for with money that had been deducted for this purpose.

Bingo!

 

[dadddio]

"blew the timeline?" LOL.

Not going to get in the circular argument with you. You can keep claiming otherwise, but the facts speak differently.

The facts show that you thought that they had already reviewed the video at the moment when they were just being shown where the attack happened. In other words, you blew the timeline. That's the facts.

 

[fillerup]

Security was notified and involved 19 minutes after the molestation (boy that's an inconvenient word, isn't it?). So at that point the "hall monitor" was out of the picture. This was nearly 2 hours before the scheduled sailing. Not time to call the police? Really?

Why? It's not up to private security to investigate crimes. It's up to private security to call the police when a crime has been reported.

Just for fun - how about a hypothetical? What if the child had reported that the cast member had raped her? Would it be just dandy with everyone if the call to law enforcement didn't occur until the next day?

Also, their contract with him apparently required them to pay his way. It's also possible that it was paid for with money that had been deducted for this purpose.

And apparently Disney took their responsibility to transport the castmember home more seriously than they took their responsibility to that molested girl.

 

[nytimez]

The facts show that you thought that they had already reviewed the video at the moment when they were just being shown where the attack happened. In other words, you blew the timeline. That's the facts. .

The timeline speaks for itself. You can continue to claim otherwise, it will not make it less true.

 

[dadddio]

And apparently Disney took their responsibility to transport the castmember home more seriously than they took their responsibility to that molested girl.

The grandmother made the decision not to get justice for the girl, not DCL.

 

[RandomPrincess]

The grandmother made the decision not to get justice for the girl, not DCL.

That's another thing I'm wondering was the grandmother her legal guardian? If not there is a whole other issue there.

 

[dadddio]

The timeline speaks for itself. You can continue to claim otherwise, it will not make it less true.

You realize that everyone can go back and see your posts from yesterday, right?

Are you the guy? You know, that guy on every forum who thinks that he can bully his point, rather than actually discuss a topic.

 

[nytimez]

The grandmother made the decision not to get justice for the girl, not DCL.

Had the crime been reported properly - immediately, promptly, timely, as soon as possible - Port Canaveral police would have taken over and it would not have been up to the grandmother or DCL.

 

[nytimez]

You realize that everyone can go back and see your posts from yesterday, right?

Are you the guy? You know, that guy on every forum who thinks that he can bully his point, rather than actually discuss a topic.

Yes. They are there. I stand by each of them.

If you'd like to make this an attack on me, feel free. It still won't change any of the facts.

 

[dadddio]

Security was notified and involved 19 minutes after the molestation (boy that's an inconvenient word, isn't it?). So at that point the "hall monitor" was out of the picture. This was nearly 2 hours before the scheduled sailing. Not time to call the police? Really? ...

I went through the timeline yesterday (right before that other guy made the tried to argue that they had already reviewed the video at the moment hat the girl showed them where the attack happened). While just shy of two hours seems like a ton of time, if you look at the actual timeline, you will see that the time was not wasted.