News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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larryz said:
I expect the next tower to be built right behind the Beach Club DVC buildings.
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A tower there would significantly intrude on EPCOT.

The Swan and Dolphin already do, of course, but they're further away and really only an issue when looking at the World Showcase from the former Future World. A tower there would probably be in view from inside the France, UK, and Canada pavilions at the very least.

There's also not much room to add parking there.

Doesn't mean Disney wouldn't do it, but it would definitely cause problems at EPCOT, and it doesn't seem like the most feasible location.
 
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nickys

nickys

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UNCgolf said:
A tower there would significantly intrude on EPCOT.

The Swan and Dolphin already do, of course, but they're further away and really only an issue when looking at the World Showcase from the former Future World. A tower there would probably be in view from inside the France, UK, and Canada pavilions at the very least.

There's also not much room to add parking there.

Doesn't mean Disney wouldn't do it, but it would definitely cause problems at EPCOT.
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It might well be visible from Epcot, and ruin sight lines.

But how does it cause problems at Epcot?
 
peter11435

peter11435

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UNCgolf said:
A tower there would significantly intrude on EPCOT.

The Swan and Dolphin already do, of course, but they're further away and really only an issue when looking at the World Showcase from the former Future World. A tower there would probably be in view from inside the France, UK, and Canada pavilions at the very least.

There's also not much room to add parking there.

Doesn't mean Disney wouldn't do it, but it would definitely cause problems at EPCOT.
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I think there’s many reasons why this parcel isn’t really suitable.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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nickys said:
It might well be visible from Epcot, and ruin sight lines.

But how does it cause problems at Epcot?
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Your first sentence is describing the problem.

The World Showcase would be kind of broken if there's a DVC tower looming overhead, similar to if they built a tower right next to Harambe, Pandora, or really almost anywhere at Animal Kingdom.

Look at the number of complaints they got about the Harmonious barges. A large tower in that plot would likely be significantly more intrusive than the barges for at least certain parts of EPCOT.
 
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UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Centauri Space Station said:
Swolphin and Riviera already do
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Swolphin aren't remotely as intrusive as a tower in that spot would be. They're unfortunate, but they're off in the distance and generally aren't really visible from inside the World Showcase pavilions.

I also don't remember seeing the Riviera at all last time I was at EPCOT -- I imagine it's visible from some places, but again, nowhere near the same thing.

This location would be literally next door to the International Gateway. An 8-10 story building there would dominate the surroundings.

But as @peter11435 said, there are numerous other problems with that location too.
 
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James Alucobond

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UNCgolf said:
I also don't remember seeing the Riviera at all last time I was at EPCOT -- I imagine it's visible from some places, but again, nowhere near the same thing.
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I know I've spied it from the monorail on the inner loop, and I imagine you can perhaps see it way in the distance from some elevated areas on the western side of the park, but seeing a few mansard roofs in the distance is infinitely less disruptive than even S&D since there are plenty of other internationally themed structures ringing much of the park.
 
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JMcMahonEsq

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Bocabear said:
I am waiting for TDO to take a hint from the DLP and Tokyo and build a hotel right across the entrance to one of the parks...
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The original WDW has its hotels right across from the park too. WDW in orlando is actually the deviation from the norm for parks as far as hotel location goes.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I meant like Disneyland Paris, Tokyo Disney Seas, Fantasy Springs....where the Hotel is actually spanning the entrance to the park...Which could work for DHS or even EPCOT if it was designed properly...
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Bocabear said:
I meant like Disneyland Paris, Tokyo Disney Seas, Fantasy Springs....where the Hotel is actually spanning the entrance to the park...Which could work for DHS or even EPCOT if it was designed properly...
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I think that would be really bad at EPCOT; it would block views of Spaceship Earth. Plus EPCOT already has three hotels within easy walking distance.

It probably wouldn't be as big of a deal at current DHS since they've basically given up on the original Hollywood theme anyways, but the front entrance of DHS is very well designed with call backs to numerous LA landmarks from the Golden Age. A hotel there would kind of throw that all away.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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unless the hotel at the front of the park were based on Hollywood landmarks...and actually added something to the theme rather than building a Fairfield inn over the front entrance.... It could be done right....
 
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MR.Dis

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Bocabear said:
Mr Toad was always very cute and a lot of fun... Way cuter and more fun than the Winnie The Pooh ride that replaced it. 20,000 Leagues has no equal... It was an amazing attraction... It was absolutely gorgeous from outside... I remember as a kid just standing along the side watching the subs go by... looking into the deep clear water... There was nothing like it... I still mourn the loss of that one...and the 2 and a half attractions that replaced it, to me do not equal what that was. I am glad the Disneyland version survives...in another form... I am sure we will be feeling a lot of this then the ROA disappears...
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This is what I mean to each their own. On 20,000 Leagues, the loading and unloading was not efficient and incredibly time consuming. The actual ride was just plain cheesy --IN My Opinion. We all have our favorites, I also miss the Time Travelor--but I have always been a Robin Williams fan.
 
Robbiem

Robbiem

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Bocabear said:
unless the hotel at the front of the park were based on Hollywood landmarks...and actually added something to the theme rather than building a Fairfield inn over the front entrance.... It could be done right....
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Disney have built some nice art deco hotels in Tokyo (the ambassador) and Hong Kong (Hollywood hotel). I’m surprised they haven’t built something similar by DHS, like Victorian its a style that suits Mickey and co
 
denyuntilcaught

denyuntilcaught

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Robbiem said:
Disney have built some nice art deco hotels in Tokyo (the ambassador) and Hong Kong (Hollywood hotel). I’m surprised they haven’t built something similar by DHS, like Victorian its a style that suits Mickey and co
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Interesting point. I'm surprised an Art Deco hotel hasn't been in the mix in the past - or has it? Maybe an insider would know.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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Bocabear said:
I am waiting for TDO to take a hint from the DLP and Tokyo and build a hotel right across the entrance to one of the parks...
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The closest thing to that would be the "Epcot Resorts" (Boardwalk, Yacht/Beach Club, Swolphin) next to the Int'l Gateway.
 

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