Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…that’s the rumor.Having a little trouble getting the wage slaves back in their shackles are we?
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Disney Labor Shortage
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GrimGrinningGhost43
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It's too expensive to live anywhere near the resort at this point. Apartments are $1500 and up for a 1BR, and it's tough to make that math work even at $15 an hour.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
But wait…all those lavish benefits…the huge bonuses Disney is paying…the cheap cost of living in Orlando…
oh no…you must be mistaken…I’ve been told by out of town experts that things are great. People just are too lazy and don’t understand the “mission” of the company.
It is tough but $1500 in parts of the Northeast may get you a one bedroom in a rough part of town built 50-60 years ago, a wall unit AC perhaps in the living room, a shared dingy laundromat in another part of the building. One can only dream of tennis courts, full gym, clubhouse , swimming pools , gated community and playground in that apt complex.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
And your point is?
It's nearly impossible to find anything 50-60 years old in a city that only began to really experience development 50 years ago.
Update: It didn't.
I wonder if 58k deaths had more of an effect on the labor pool than crap wages?
This article seems relevant to this post.
news.yahoo.com
A worker in Florida applied to 60 entry-level jobs in September and got one interview
Joey Holz, whose experiment went viral, told Insider he specifically applied to businesses that were publicly complaining of a worker shortage.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Undoubtedly. Also, people took the lockdown as an opportunity to improve their standing professionally and got far better jobs.
Perfect example: me. I was laid off in December, and received my final payout by mid January. I was able to stretch out my joke of a severance, the expanded unemployment, the stimmies, and a wise bet on dogecoin to cover my expenses, and was able to double my pre-layoff salary by June.
Granted, I'm a salaried white-collar professional; but I'm certain that many of those in the service industry also did similar in improving their personal positions.
Article is misleading. WDW can't find enough housekeeping staff to hire starting at $17 per hour. Apparently Joey didn't fill out that job application.This article seems relevant to this post.
A worker in Florida applied to 60 entry-level jobs in September and got one interview
Joey Holz, whose experiment went viral, told Insider he specifically applied to businesses that were publicly complaining of a worker shortage.
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May not be obvious to some but that's ok.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
There was nothing in Florida 60 years agoYou forgot small and mid sized towns that have those brick apts 50-60 years old. You may not be aware.
Are you sure? Or is it possible they are setting “hard caps” on what they’re willing to pay and the local competition is exceeding that?
Oh good…because it looked like you were trying to compare two completely different markets as an excuse for Disney’s failures in labor…I knew that couldn’t be it
Excuse for Disney failure? Wrong again. Someone paying 1500$ to live in a one bedroom in Orlando is actually getting some nice digs to live in. Not referring to FL regarding apts., pay attention please. If Joey applied to WDW he wouldn't be writing that article. He would be in training .
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
So you’re gonna keep just deciding the economics based on what you want to cherry pick, backed up with not being familiar with all the details?
right…poor Disney…always the victim
enjoy boo bash
Disney training is about a day and a half now…not “luxury”…by the way
GrimGrinningGhost43
New Member
No, the challenge for Disney now is that Orlando has experienced explosive growth in the last 10-15 years.... and basically none of that has been affordable housing for people that might want to work at Disney for $15-$17 an hour starting wage and a $1000 signing bonus.
We've seen huge numbers of condos, vacation rentals, hotels, and 'luxury' apartments, but not a lot of affordable apartments and definitely not many affordable single-family homes or townhomes. Meanwhile, existing apartment complexes have been bought up by these giant apartment rental companies that ratchet up rent 8-10% year over year.
All this while the existing workforce has either found other opportunities (as others have mentioned) or moved out of the area completely. I would actually guess that a large reason for the delay in entertainment coming back is because of the need for those entertainment Cast Members to continue their roles in merch and F&B around the resort.
We've seen huge numbers of condos, vacation rentals, hotels, and 'luxury' apartments, but not a lot of affordable apartments and definitely not many affordable single-family homes or townhomes. Meanwhile, existing apartment complexes have been bought up by these giant apartment rental companies that ratchet up rent 8-10% year over year.
All this while the existing workforce has either found other opportunities (as others have mentioned) or moved out of the area completely. I would actually guess that a large reason for the delay in entertainment coming back is because of the need for those entertainment Cast Members to continue their roles in merch and F&B around the resort.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
You mean Orlando has overbuilt, but maintained comparative low wages and ignored the infrastructure to support that in a 12 year unfettered stock boom?
Wow…it’s like that’s almost happened before?
SteveAZee
Premium Member
The 5 million+ people living in Florida 60 years ago would like to have a word.