News Disney KiteTails coming to Disney's Animal Kingdom October 1

Movielover

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I have to give them points for at least trying something different, but yeah this seems better suited for SSL or somewhere else. I don't see why putting a show in this spot has been so difficult. Just bite the bullet and put in the World of Color infrastructure here and call it a night.
 

MrPromey

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They could create some type of percussion drumming show along with some visual things
You mean something like this for when they try to stick the landings?

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CntrlFlPete

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people did not seem to mind having some time off their feet, to me, folks seemed to enjoy the show as well so I feel that is something. Anyway, I would not expect anyone to cancel anything if folks are showing up as it seemed to do what it was meant to do on the day I stopped to watch some of it.

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ToTBellHop

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people did not seem to mind having some time off their feet, to me, folks seemed to enjoy the show as well so I feel that is something. Anyway, I would not expect anyone to cancel anything if folks are showing up as it seemed to do what it was meant to do on the day I stopped to watch some of it.

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I’ll be curious to see how people feel by May. It’s still hot right now but the October sun is nothing like the summer sun. That seating area will be hotter than hell by June. This was an issue at Lights, Motors, Action! as well.
 

Sir_Cliff

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We found this to be…amusing…today. It wasn’t a fail like DE for us. They promised kites would be flown. They indeed were. And if you’ve ever flown a kite, it is imperfect. They crash down sometimes. During a key moment, Baloo, who had been laying down waiting to shine, took off gracefully from his perch and gleefully slammed into a building, then a tree, and finally plummeted into the swampy water. The crowd gasped and then proceeded to heartily laugh a Papa Bear’s demise as the announcer (they have failure announcements) came on to explain that he decided to take a bath. It was not a show we will soon forget even if it is unlikely to last long.

Kudos to the puppeteer/flyers and jet ski drivers, though. They really give it their all and this is clearly VERY challenging work. They were working their butts off. At least they went all-in on this as opposed to the garbage on Cinderella Castle every night at 8.
I am with you on this! I get the criticisms that it is not as impressive as it could be, but the fact it is less slickly produced than most Disney Parks entertainment is a plus for me. Also seems kind of appropriate for Animal Kingdom which is themed to seem more like a real place rather than a polished fantasy kingdom. The fact that kites land weirdly and sometimes it doesn't work exactly as planned is part of the charm and adds to the sense that you're watching something actually happening in real time. And it's just stupid and fun!

Honestly, a nice break from highly-polished but dull variations of clips of songs from Disney films with fireworks or costumed characters dancing around to pre-recorded music.
 

ToTBellHop

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I am with you on this! I get the criticisms that it is not as impressive as it could be, but the fact it is less slickly produced than most Disney Parks entertainment is a plus for me. Also seems kind of appropriate for Animal Kingdom which is themed to seem more like a real place rather than a polished fantasy kingdom. The fact that kites land weirdly and sometimes it doesn't work exactly as planned is part of the charm and adds to the sense that you're watching something actually happening in real time. And it's just stupid and fun!

Honestly, a nice break from highly-polished but dull variations of clips of songs from Disney films with fireworks or costumed characters dancing around to pre-recorded music.
Agreed. You can show up to this show 15 min before it starts and have a perfectly-acceptable view. Or you can show up an hour early for a so-so view of Harmonious.

KiteTails is a harmless novelty that replaced nothing and doesn’t impact sight lines in the park. It’s no more silly than Sergio in World Showcase and I adore him, too. I’ll take the win. There’s a certain charm in the simplicity of KiteTails. Grab a drink, enjoy sitting for half an hour, and let yourself chuckle at the inherent ridiculousness of the whole endeavor. It is a theme park, after all.
 

celluloid

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Agreed. You can show up to this show 15 min before it starts and have a perfectly-acceptable view. Or you can show up an hour early for a so-so view of Harmonious.

KiteTails is a harmless novelty that replaced nothing and doesn’t impact sight lines in the park. It’s no more silly than Sergio in World Showcase and I adore him, too. I’ll take the win. There’s a certain charm in the simplicity of KiteTails. Grab a drink, enjoy sitting for half an hour, and let yourself chuckle at the inherent ridiculousness of the whole endeavor. It is a theme park, after all.

That is a nice thought and I would mostly agree, because we don't get to choose how the mass of public feels. That is the hospitality and entertainment industry, as you know.

Luckily the show is relatively low cost, but when you have a large stadium seating show in a Disney Theme Park, people's expectations are pretty high.
 

dreday3

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That is a nice thought and I would mostly agree, because we don't get to choose how the mass of public feels. That is the hospitality and entertainment industry, as you know.

Luckily the show is relatively low cost, but when you have a large stadium seating show in a Disney Theme Park, people's expectations are pretty high.

If people can read, their expectations shouldn't be pretty high for this show as it was advertised. If someone goes in expecting some Spectacular Spectacular, that's on them.
 

Disstevefan1

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If people can read, their expectations shouldn't be pretty high for this show as it was advertised. If someone goes in expecting some Spectacular Spectacular, that's on them.
Actually it’s a good strategy for everything when going to WDW going forward.
Keep your expectations as low as possible for everything.
Going in that way, there is a chance to be pleasantly surprised with something.
 

celluloid

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If people can read, their expectations shouldn't be pretty high for this show as it was advertised. If someone goes in expecting some Spectacular Spectacular, that's on them.


Read the Walt Disney garden path story. In the end, the public supports what they support. This was a part of theme park design long ago. People reading and a brief explanation will not change the fact that the show may not be a hit. Public opinion = money and eventually wins.
 

ToTBellHop

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That is a nice thought and I would mostly agree, because we don't get to choose how the mass of public feels. That is the hospitality and entertainment industry, as you know.

Luckily the show is relatively low cost, but when you have a large stadium seating show in a Disney Theme Park, people's expectations are pretty high.

Read the Walt Disney garden path story. In the end, the public supports what they support. This was a part of theme park design long ago. People reading and a brief explanation will not change the fact that the show may not be a hit. Public opinion = money and eventually wins.
No one seemed to leave disappointed on the Monday 11:15 am show. It’s not like we had to give up ride time to see it. We had ridden everything in the park by 10:30 am.
 

celluloid

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No one seemed to leave disappointed on the Monday 11:15 am show. It’s not like we had to give up ride time to see it. We had ridden everything in the park by 10:30 am.

That is good. I am not saying anyone is for sure to be disappointed. I was referring to your plea to have others see it how you see it. I hope they do because I like variety in the parks. The point was anyone's plea for someone not to be and to see it for what it is, will not change the course. Public and speaking with their wallets decide satisfaction.
 

dreday3

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Read the Walt Disney garden path story. In the end, the public supports what they support. This was a part of theme park design long ago. People reading and a brief explanation will not change the fact that the show may not be a hit. Public opinion = money and eventually wins.

This has nothing to do with my point countering your previous point.

If someone thinks they are getting some huge nighttime extravaganza based on the description of KiteTails...
 

celluloid

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This has nothing to do with my point countering your previous point.

If someone thinks they are getting some huge nighttime extravaganza based on the description of KiteTails...

How is that? That is certainly what happens no matter what we want to happen. The public always gets what they want eventually, It is shocking how few people read and go in with an expectation that matches a description. The attempts of communication are important, but If people are disappointed, the show will change or discontinue, as have the shows previously in that spot, or more to the description point where you think people just be at fault because they did not read the description, may be right, but that does not make a difference to what people expect or want. The same way how the real working movie studio theme park has changed to just a theme park with a studio theme and more attractions to do. Even with plenty of explanation that it was more of a movie studio tour than it was a traditional theme park. If this venue's current show is well received, than it will stay. That is how parks always work.
 

dreday3

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How is that? The public always gets what they want eventually. If people are disappointed, the show will change or discontinue, as have the shows previously in that spot, or more to the description point, how the real working movie studio theme park has changed to just a theme park with a studio theme and more attractions to do.

You said (paraphrasing) - People have high expectations because of the stadium seating for this show (KiteTail)
I said - people shouldn't have high expectations if they read the description, and if they do and are disappointed, then that's their own fault for having high expectations when they were told exactly what the show would consist of.

Now you are going down some different path of thought process which I'm not really interested in discussing.

I answered your original comment at face-value. Which is how people should take the description of the show.
 

celluloid

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You said (paraphrasing) - People have high expectations because of the stadium seating for this show (KiteTail)
I said - people shouldn't have high expectations if they read the description, and if they do and are disappointed, then that's their own fault for having high expectations when they were told exactly what the show would consist of.

Now you are going down some different path of thought process which I'm not really interested in discussing.

I answered your original comment at face-value. Which is how people should take the description of the show.

Nope, the path I am on is the same. I acknowledged your point. People should read(the one you seemed to attempt to jab with "if people can read), but that does not change the fact, that if people don't like it, they don't like it. If you are just wishing people would read to go in with the proper expectation, that is a long road and directly against philosophies of the company.(and any when they want to remain the most profitable version of their company) That is why I brought up the Walt Disney Garden story. You certainly seem interested because you replied again to me. So that is confusing.
 
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dreday3

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Nope, the path I am on is the same. I acknowledged your point. People should read(the one you seemed to attempt to jab with "if people can read, but that does not change the fact, that if people don't like it, they don't like it. If you are just wishing people would read to go in with the proper expectation, that is a long road and directly against philosophies of the company.(and any when they want to remain the most profitable version of their company) That is why I brought up the Walt Disney Garden story. You certainly seem interested because you replied again to me. So that is confusing.

Okay!
 

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