Disney is the better World

HADESgou

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Reading the forums and discussions and visiting the parks on my own I had also thought that Disney had lost some of their luster. That was until I went to Sea World. I realize that it could be worse. It smelled bad, it was dirty, and they had construction going on that had employees blocking off walk ways to let equipment in and out.(I mean concrete trucks and stuff like that)
Sea World is trying so hard to be like Disney it is unbeleivable. they have a show called odysea, like la nuba (sp?), the groove chefs are three guys that bang on pots and pans hmm Jammittors, its just sad.

I don't recomend Sea World but if you want the same reality check I got take just a couple hours out of your next trip and visit. the only thing they have over Disney is FREE BEER! But, that is just not enough.
 

HADESgou

New Member
Original Poster
not a comparison

I, Myself was not comparing them, going there makes me Love Disney that much more. even though WDW has, in my opinion, slacked of a little lately.

Also it is Sea World that is comparing themselves to WDW.

I enjoyed Sea Worlds shows, the horses are huge and very impressive. I learned alot, but, I just could not get past the little things that kept popping up. restroom availability, the number and placement of their smoking areas(there were alot of smoking areas)the map of the park was not accurate.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Mateo1721
Sea World can be fun, but you are right about the smell. I don't know how someone can stand to work there.
Fact - fish smell.
Fact - trash smells. Yet people work on trash collections.

I too think you're wrong to compare the two (they are completely different) and you're being too critical of a park which is primarily developed to fund the rescue & welfare / research program for sea creatures.
 

M. Racer

New Member
Originally posted by HADESgou

I don't recomend Sea World but if you want the same reality check I got take just a couple hours out of your next trip and visit. the only thing they have over Disney is FREE BEER! But, that is just not enough. [/B]

FREE BEER? Where do you get that?:slurp:
 

Mateo1721

Member
Originally posted by CAPTAIN HOOK
Fact - fish smell.
Fact - trash smells. Yet people work on trash collections.

I too think you're wrong to compare the two (they are completely different) and you're being too critical of a park which is primarily developed to fund the rescue & welfare / research program for sea creatures.

You're right, the smell is just an inconvenience and the park really does some important work in conservation. As a casual visitor, the smell affects us in a different way than someone who works there and deals with it every day.
 

wannabeBelle

Well-Known Member
Sure Free Beer. It is over by the Hospiltality center I think it is called. Right over by the Clydesdale horses. They also have a really slamming turkey sandwich place right in the same area.
As yes I did enjoy Seaworld and I absolutey loved Kraken, but it isnt Disney and they really cant be compared. Nothing does compare to Disney although we all know so many try to copy it. I Am not sure that there will ever be a competitor on its own ground. Belle
 

HADESgou

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Original Poster
Free Beer

The Free Beer is in the back by the horses in the hospitality house, which also, by the way has a great deli sandwich place.

Not comparing them cuase they are different, i feel the same way when I go to Universal. I took a class on theme park management at UCF and I guess that is why I am critical on certain aspects of theme parks. don't mis-understand me I will be going back to Sea World(not just for the free beer) but because of there design we could not see everything in one day.

I agree that they do alot for the environment and as I said, I learned alot. but, I feel at some point a choice must be made either it is a:

Theme Park
Or
An educational experience

Just a side note have you guys seen the new AK commercial the one that says "Notazu" Very funny.
 

M. Racer

New Member
Re: Free Beer

Originally posted by HADESgou
The Free Beer is in the back by the horses in the hospitality house, which also, by the way has a great deli sandwich place.

So is it watery american beer, like Bud, Miller, Coors...etc...? :hurl:
 

BuckyAcorn

New Member
Originally posted by CAPTAIN HOOK
Fact - fish smell.
Fact - trash smells. Yet people work on trash collections.

I too think you're wrong to compare the two (they are completely different) and you're being too critical of a park which is primarily developed to fund the rescue & welfare / research program for sea creatures.

Im sorry...you're wrong. It isnt used to develope the sea creatures at all. its a way to make money, as most places are. They hide behind the fact that they "work for the better of the sea creature" to make a dollar. Maybe you can explain to me how making a dolphin or whale do tricks is helping the animal itsself...
 

epcotisbest

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by BuckyAcorn
Im sorry...you're wrong. It isnt used to develope the sea creatures at all. its a way to make money, as most places are. They hide behind the fact that they "work for the better of the sea creature" to make a dollar. Maybe you can explain to me how making a dolphin or whale do tricks is helping the animal itsself...

Before you go telling someone they are wrong maybe you should know a little bit about what you are talking about. Ever heard of the SeaWorld & Busch Gardens Conservation Fund?

Conservation Fund

I doubt you are interested, but here are some of the things that Anheuser-Busch/SeaWorld are a part of. They are not hiding behind anything to make a dollar. Yes, it is a business to make money. The dolphin and whale shows are a big draw to bring people into the park. These animals are trained to perform, yes once again to make money. What the company does with that money (or even a small portion of it) has done and will continue to do imeasurable good to help all animals.


SEAWORLD/BUSCH GARDENS CONSERVATION FUND

BUSCH GARDENS TAMPA BAY
8 global projects funded by Busch Gardens Tampa Bay

HUBBS-SEAWORLD RESEARCH INSTITUTE

FUJIFILM

CONSERVATION INTERNATIONAL
Preserving wildlife habitat

THE IZAAK WALTON LEAGUE OF AMERICA

NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION
Wildlife conservation projects

NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SOCIETY

NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION

THE NATURE CONSERVANCY
Preserving nature by protecting land and water habitats
WORLD WILDLIFE FUND
THE CONSERVATION FUND
Integrating economics and education into conservation of land and water
NATIONAL AUDUBON SOCIETY
FLORIDA AUDUBON SOCIETY
Rescue and rehabilitation of birds of prey
INTERNATIONAL RHINO FOUNDATION
HAWAII WHALE RESEARCH FOUNDATION
Study of humpback whales
ROCKY MOUNTAIN ELK FOUNDATION
Preserving wildlife habitat
UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI
St. Louis' International Center for Tropical Ecology, research on tropical ecosystems
MISSOURI BOTANICAL GARDEN
Plant propagation and research
NATIONAL SCIENCE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION

ZOOLOGICAL PARTNERSHIPS

AMERICAN ZOO & AQUARIUM ASSOCIATION
AMERICAN SOCIETY OF MAMMALOGISTS
CONSERVATION BREEDING SPECIALISTS GROUP
WILDLIFE CONSERVATION SOCIETY (BRONX ZOO)
MOTE MARINE LABORATORY

FEDERAL & STATE PARTNERSHIPS

U.S. FISH & WILDLIFE SERVICE
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
U.S. COAST GUARD
NATIONAL MARINE FISHERIES SERVICE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA OIL SPILL PREVENTION & RESPONSE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION

ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS

TAKING ENVIRONMENTALISM INTERNATIONAL
Environmental commitment is an important part of Anheuser-Busch's international work. In Brazil, for example, we collaborate with Conservation International on the Bahia Eco-tourism Project, which features a canopy walkway through one of the last remaining patches of Atlantic rain forest. An interpretive center and wildlife rehabilitation center near the walkway inform visitors about Brazil's natural treasures. This unique project has three big benefits: rain forest preservation, conservation education, and income through tourism and sales.

SAVING HABITATS ON LAND & SEA
The Nature Conservancy and Anheuser-Busch team up in the "Last Great Places" campaign to protect critical wildlife habitats in the United States, Latin America, and the Pacific. In 1995, Anheuser-Busch pledged $1 million to the Last Great Places' $300 million fund-raising campaign.

Sea World of Florida also joins The Nature Conservancy in "Marine Stewardship in the Florida Keys." Sea World employees team up with Florida communities to clean up, learn about, and protect Florida Keys' coral reefs. And - because coral reefs are marine habitats - much of clean-up work and exploration take place...you guessed it...underwater!

CLEAN-UP PARTNERSHIPS
Anheuser-Busch often teams up with other organizations to make the most of environmental action. Clean-up partnerships and projects have included:

Don't Mess With Texas, a statewide anti-litter campaign, launched in 1990 and funded in part by a $5 million donation by Anheuser-Busch.
Keep America Beautiful, a litter-prevention organization which Anheuser-Busch helped established and supports today
Lake Ponchartrain project, a lake cleanup near New Orleans, funded in part by a donation from Anheuser-Busch.
Ozark Riverways project, an anti-litter campaign originally funded and planned by the National Park Service and Anheuser-Busch
Pitch In!, an anti-litter program established in 1971 by the United States Brewer Association (including Anheuser-Busch)
San Gabriel Canyon project, a cleanup and litter-prevention program in California, funded by Anheuser-Busch and planned in conjunction with the U.S.D.A. Forest Service

CLEANING UP BEACHES
Anheuser-Busch and Sea World parks participate in several beach clean-up programs, including the International Coastal Cleanup sponsored by The Ocean Conservancy. Anheuser-Busch provides funds, logistical support, and volunteers for this annual cleanup that involves:

Volunteers in all 50 states and more than 60 countries
Nearly 6,000 miles of coastal areas and waterways
Nearly 3,000 shoreline and underwater clean-up sites
The removal of more than 2,500,000 pounds of debris - more than 4 million pieces!
The Ocean Conservancy uses data gathered during cleanups to push for treaties and laws against marine pollution, to inform environmental task forces, and to inspire recycling and adopt-a-beach programs.

HABITAT FOR A HISTORIC BIRD
The American bald eagle, an historic U.S. symbol, is also an emblem of Anheuser-Busch. We are especially proud to participate in The Conservation Fund's program to purchase and protect bald eagle habitat. Our donations have helped secure more than 210,000 acres of eagle, brown bear, and salmon habitat in Alaska's Kodiak Island National Wildlife Refuge.

This program also exemplifies Anheuser-Busch's belief that what's good for the environment can also be good for the economy. As one Kodiak Island native puts it: "We make our livelihood from the quality of resources, just like the bears do."
 

Pixie Duster

New Member
Sorry BuckyAcorn, but you are ignorant. Read the above post and educate yourself before you make a statement like that. Sure SeaWorld makes a profit, duh, however, that is not it's sole intent. They rescue and rehabilitate animals. The animals that are in the shows perform to show guests how intelligent animals can be and that we are wrong for thinking they are stupid.

Now I am a hospitality management major. I too have taken the Theme Park management class. I view Sea World not so much as a theme park, but as an amusement park that borrows some elements from the theme parks. The fact that their smoking areas are ill placed, that their constructions interupts the experiences proves that they are not following the basic rule of theme parks: Create a totallly immersive environment. Sea World does not try half as hard as other places, (Disney, Universal) to create a different world. They are not a true theme park.
Being a theme park is not their thing so if being in a theme park is your thing then Sea World will not appeal to you. Quite frankly it does not appeal too much to me, but I respect it.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by BuckyAcorn
Im sorry...you're wrong. It isnt used to develope the sea creatures at all. its a way to make money, as most places are. They hide behind the fact that they "work for the better of the sea creature" to make a dollar. Maybe you can explain to me how making a dolphin or whale do tricks is helping the animal itsself...
Hey Bucky -
Try reading the post before you humiliate yourself by putting your foot in it.
SeaWorld is about marine conservation. Getting people into parks makes money. Profits from this funds the conservation program. This is what I put in my original post.
I can't put it any simpler - do you understand the basics yet :hammer:
 

HADESgou

New Member
Original Poster
Well I see that this totaly did not go the way I thought it would, but, what should I expect.

Thanks epcotisbest for clearing up the conservation efforts of Sea World, I knew there was alot but, I had no idea it was that much.

"Listen to me now, and understand me later!"
When I started this thread it was to start a discussion about what we liked about Disney not to put down Sea World. Even the title of the thread "Disney is the better World" I was trying to get some positive comments about what Disney does right. rather than all of the negitive comments I have been reading. I know that I am new to this forum stuff, but, I hope that you can understand what I was trying to do. Negative comments are like insults, they only make the person commenting look bad.

Just a side note about attending other theme parks: Walt would often go to other parks and see what worked and what did not so that he could make his park better, not by putting them down but by raising his up.

So, lighten up smile think of the excitement, joy and happiness you felt the first time you walked down main street and smelled the popcorn, the chocolate cookies and saw the castle.
 

epcotisbest

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by HADESgou
Reading the forums and discussions and visiting the parks on my own I had also thought that Disney had lost some of their luster. That was until I went to Sea World. I realize that it could be worse. It smelled bad, it was dirty, and they had construction going on that had employees blocking off walk ways to let equipment in and out.(I mean concrete trucks and stuff like that)
Sea World is trying so hard to be like Disney it is unbeleivable. they have a show called odysea, like la nuba (sp?), the groove chefs are three guys that bang on pots and pans hmm Jammittors, its just sad.

I don't recomend Sea World but if you want the same reality check I got take just a couple hours out of your next trip and visit. the only thing they have over Disney is FREE BEER! But, that is just not enough.

Sorry dude, but this is a negative post. "it could be worse", "it smelled bad", "it was dirty", "its just sad", "I don't reccomend SeaWorld"....find me something positive in those statements.
Nothing positive in a name with "hades" in it either.

Anyway, when you write something online, no one can see your facial expressions, hear your tone, mannerisms etc...If you thought this post did not put down SeaWorld, and would start a discussion about what we like about Disney, I think you missed it totally. How about..."Discussion...Things we like about Disney." Maybe I would not misinterpret a post similar to that, and the replies would be more of what you had in mind.
:)

Ricky
 

HADESgou

New Member
Original Poster
Well, Hades was the charcter that I knew very well when I worked at mgm, if you know what I mean. Oops, I forgot that I said "I don't recomend Sea World" the rest are adjectives, you do know what those are.
 

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