Disney is a struggling company. I don’t see an end in sight.

Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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GimpYancIent said:
The patient is not in good shape but not critical yet. Life support and passing are not in sight yet. The foolish mortals have some work yet to do.
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The stone carvers are on stand by:
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GimpYancIent

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celluloid said:
They were just put on a cholesterol free diet and lifestyle changes that inform them they can't go on the way they are.
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Yes, and they have some serious work to do. It's almost as if it will take a dramatic event, like a heart attack or aneurism or stock halving in value to shock the powers that be onto a new healthier course.
 
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GimpYancIent

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TsWade2 said:
Come on, you guys! It’s not the end of Disney! I have a feeling you guys are not true fans of Disney. :rolleyes:
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True fans are lamenting what is going on, it's as if TWDC does not care about fan support. Some of the details are tangible (money) some are not (experience). Me, Myself and I and the rest of the folks I know from my age demographic enjoyed going to Disney and looked forward to future visits, the next generation (my children & friends) would ask" when can we come back" and even "can we live here", there was a time but now! the grandchildren feedback is "can we go somewhere else", "can we do something different" and the saddest "I don't like it here". Not a good indicator for the future. The product / experience is not the same and for the fans a sad thing to see that even causes some resentment. TWDC is working steadily to alienate its fans.

P.S. Pre-pandemic, its worse now. Universal is the place now!
 
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TsWade2

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GimpYancIent said:
True fans are lamenting what is going on, it's as if TWDC does not care about fan support. Some of the details are tangible (money) some are not (experience). Me, Myself and I and the rest of the folks I know from my age demographic enjoyed going to Disney and looked forward to future visits, the next generation (my children & friends) would ask" when can we come back" and even "can we live here", there was a time but now! the grandchildren feedback is "can we go somewhere else", "can we do something different" and the saddest "I don't like it here". Not a good indicator for the future. The product / experience is not the same and for the fans a sad thing to see that even causes some resentment. TWDC is working steadily to alienate its fans.

P.S. Pre-pandemic, its worse now. Universal is the place now!
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You people are so sad.🙄
 
Minnesota disney fan

Minnesota disney fan

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GimpYancIent said:
True fans are lamenting what is going on, it's as if TWDC does not care about fan support. Some of the details are tangible (money) some are not (experience). Me, Myself and I and the rest of the folks I know from my age demographic enjoyed going to Disney and looked forward to future visits, the next generation (my children & friends) would ask" when can we come back" and even "can we live here", there was a time but now! the grandchildren feedback is "can we go somewhere else", "can we do something different" and the saddest "I don't like it here". Not a good indicator for the future. The product / experience is not the same and for the fans a sad thing to see that even causes some resentment. TWDC is working steadily to alienate its fans.

P.S. Pre-pandemic, its worse now. Universal is the place now!
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I agree completely. My kids and grandkids are not interested in WDW at all. They have lost a generation or two of repeat customers already, but it seems they don't really care. We were big WDW fans and advocates, but with all the changes we have given up on WDW. We now go to Universal and other places and do not miss WDW.
WDW is in danger of losing these generations and not getting them back. If they make massive positive improvements then those who love what disney was will probably come back, IMO.
 
TP2000

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123mart123

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Stripes said:
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Disney strives to accept, include, and appreciate all people. And that means putting on the Candlelight Processional every year to appeal to Christians, often with conservative speakers at Disneyland. It means honoring America’s fallen heroes and veterans virtually every day with ceremonies on Main Street and with especially beautiful ceremonies for Memorial Day along with year-round discounts for service members and veterans. It means donating to children’s hospitals and non-profits supporting kids with cancer as well as Boys and Girls Clubs of America so that kids are enabled to reach their full potential. And it means celebrating Pride month in honor of those that sacrificed so that LGBT people may pursue happiness as is the right of all Americans, while recognizing and opposing the discrimination and vitriol this community continues to endure around the world.
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At the parks? Because they say they do?
I think this is kind of like how Apple says the same Thing about how inclusive they are.

We accept and include and appreciate all people…as long as they are wealthy.

A Disney vacation is beyond the reach of a large percentage of the American population.
Apple makes what…40+% gross margins on $1200 iPhones? About a decade ago, Apple was making somewhere around 90 percent of the entire worlds smart phone profit...Even with a small fraction of global production.

Does that sound like inclusion?
 
Robbiem

Robbiem

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123mart123 said:
At the parks? Because they say they do?
I think this is kind of like how Apple says the same Thing about how inclusive they are.

We accept and include and appreciate all people…as long as they are wealthy.

A Disney vacation is beyond the reach of a large percentage of the American population.
Apple makes what…40+% gross margins on $1200 iPhones? About a decade ago, Apple was making somewhere around 90 percent of the entire worlds smart phone profit...Even with a small fraction of global production.

Does that sound like inclusion?
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I think a part of the problem is Disney wants to be like Apple but its not. Apple always played the disruptive outsider who did things differently to the mainstream players like Microsoft. This gave it a certain image which Disney wants to emulate so Bobby I can show how with it he is and hang out with the cool cats.

The problem is Disney was never the cool cat, it was the steady dependable product for the masses. Walt through to Eisner knew that and pitched accordingly but now management is trying to make it something its not and its not working out so well
 

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