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disney in the classroom?
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Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
As someone who had to undergo "equal Oppertunities" indoctranation/ sorry training one thing ive noticed is that those who discuss political correctness are so keen to ignore the excepted norms of the times that books, films tv proggs were created.
We can learn from history but we cant change it. it is one thing to be considerate of of others but another to deny the existance of our own unique cultures, and what shaped them.
From a child of the land that helped shape the world and produce innovative ideas well beyond its size.....
SCOTLAND And yes I do have a kilt!!!
We can learn from history but we cant change it. it is one thing to be considerate of of others but another to deny the existance of our own unique cultures, and what shaped them.
From a child of the land that helped shape the world and produce innovative ideas well beyond its size.....
SCOTLAND And yes I do have a kilt!!!
very well put. excellent A+++
AliciaLuvzDizne
Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Erika
OH! I used to study indiginous cultures (my prof even lived up there with them for 6 months-completely immersed in their culture- VERY cool guy) and we learned differently.
How about snow-people? Does that work?
works for me!!
jmarc63
New Member
very sore subject with me
This Politically Correct thing had gotten out of hand>
The reason I say this is because they aren't refering to a movie made yesturday . They are Bashing a Title that when they were Produced were following how society was at the time they were Written. like 19th Century Novels, or films made before the Cival Rights Movement showed certin ethnic groups in what was justified attitudes then. I belive current disney Exec admitted that some of the older Films Produced By Walt were some what out of line with correctness of today, but were following the tone of the book or attutides of the day when they were produced like song of the south.
Now thats another matter on song of the south, This burns me on this one . Why is it distrubited in europe and the UK on PAL video(also Japan too) But not in the US.If there not going to release it in the home of Disney why not pull it from every place else if it's so racisit to black people.
To be fair that is how they were treated in the day when it was written and produced just like gone with the wind was and they show it every year on Turner Stations .
If I'm wrong let me know.
This Politically Correct thing had gotten out of hand>
The reason I say this is because they aren't refering to a movie made yesturday . They are Bashing a Title that when they were Produced were following how society was at the time they were Written. like 19th Century Novels, or films made before the Cival Rights Movement showed certin ethnic groups in what was justified attitudes then. I belive current disney Exec admitted that some of the older Films Produced By Walt were some what out of line with correctness of today, but were following the tone of the book or attutides of the day when they were produced like song of the south.
Now thats another matter on song of the south, This burns me on this one . Why is it distrubited in europe and the UK on PAL video(also Japan too) But not in the US.If there not going to release it in the home of Disney why not pull it from every place else if it's so racisit to black people.
To be fair that is how they were treated in the day when it was written and produced just like gone with the wind was and they show it every year on Turner Stations .
If I'm wrong let me know.
jmarc63,
again, excellent points. for some reason, people want ot cover up what they deem "bad" things from the past, but still want to hang on to what they concider the "classics" like gone with the wind. US culture is so backwards sometimes!
I am going to throw another wrench in the mix....
how about the harry potter stuff? such as parents (mainly parts of the christian community) not allowing their children to read the books or watch the movies because it directly interfears with their belief of god? "Magic powers are bad. the are black magic... etc"
I have an aunt who would not allow her SEVENTEEN year old daughter to watch or read any Harry Potter. Then she has the nerve to ask my mother and I about it. Um my mom got a double masters in English, I am an english major. We love all books, great and small, even if they are bad. we will find good in them. My mom flat out said that she is being silly about it. I said that I personally loved the books, and in the case of "god", anyone with a good sense of religion will not switch from a religion because of a book. (ok, I find that silly as well, I am an atheist, thus it is pretty hard for me to comprehend why people would do this....)
her counter claim to that was she has seen young children run around pretending to be harry potter. yeah, "pretending". so my remedy to the situation was I asked my cousin if she wanted some old clothes of mine, and slipped the first of the four books into the bag. she read it at school, loved it, and has borrowed each of the next books since then. She read them in school, and hid them from my aunt. otherwise, she might have been grounded.
ok, feedback please! on either side of this. for or against harry potter?
again, excellent points. for some reason, people want ot cover up what they deem "bad" things from the past, but still want to hang on to what they concider the "classics" like gone with the wind. US culture is so backwards sometimes!
I am going to throw another wrench in the mix....
how about the harry potter stuff? such as parents (mainly parts of the christian community) not allowing their children to read the books or watch the movies because it directly interfears with their belief of god? "Magic powers are bad. the are black magic... etc"
I have an aunt who would not allow her SEVENTEEN year old daughter to watch or read any Harry Potter. Then she has the nerve to ask my mother and I about it. Um my mom got a double masters in English, I am an english major. We love all books, great and small, even if they are bad. we will find good in them. My mom flat out said that she is being silly about it. I said that I personally loved the books, and in the case of "god", anyone with a good sense of religion will not switch from a religion because of a book. (ok, I find that silly as well, I am an atheist, thus it is pretty hard for me to comprehend why people would do this....)
her counter claim to that was she has seen young children run around pretending to be harry potter. yeah, "pretending". so my remedy to the situation was I asked my cousin if she wanted some old clothes of mine, and slipped the first of the four books into the bag. she read it at school, loved it, and has borrowed each of the next books since then. She read them in school, and hid them from my aunt. otherwise, she might have been grounded.
ok, feedback please! on either side of this. for or against harry potter?
GenerationX
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I am a book lover (and U of I alum, Go Illini!) as well, Fan o' Disney, but I DO have problems with the Harry Potter series. My favorite book of all time is The Catcher in the Rye, but I would not want my 7 year old son reading it because it is not age appropriate for him. In the case of The Catcher in the Rye, elementary school kids are not the intended audience. Harry Potter, on the other hand, is directly aimed at younger kids but contains ideas and concepts that I find inappropriate for kids that age. A seventeen year old is certainly old enough to handle the material in Harry Potter.
I think the "Disneyfying" of the Grimm fairy tales is also good, because again I think the real versions of those stories are not appropriate for younger kids.
My kids will have plenty of time to read and enjoy the classics when they are old enough to understand and appreciate them.
I think the "Disneyfying" of the Grimm fairy tales is also good, because again I think the real versions of those stories are not appropriate for younger kids.
My kids will have plenty of time to read and enjoy the classics when they are old enough to understand and appreciate them.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
The old saying " never discuss religion and politics" and in Scotland you can add football (soccer) which is a more condensed form of the both.
so that totally makes sense to me. so I am to assume some day, when you think your child is old enough, he will be allowed to watch?
and I think my future children will also have to wait a while to see this movie. I was 20 when I read and saw Harry Potter, and I found a few things quite adult like in the readings!
and go illini!
GenerationX
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Exactly. I understand why they market HP to younger kids, I just wish they wouldn't.
Does anyone know of an entire college class devoted to the Films of Disney? If there's one devoted to the films of Keanu Reeves, there should be one for Disney!
as a former Illini, you should find this interesting...
there is now an entire class devoted to the books that Oprah has put in her book club. something called "the Oprah effect" or something like that. scary.
and at illinois, there is no new class that is devoted to disney films. but the film department is still pretty small here!