Disney guest chokes girl who was blocking view of fireworks, deputies say

[contrariwise]

It's not for the sake of arguing. It's reality. People have responsibility for themselves. A Disney commercial is just that- an advertisement. And just like every other advertisement- it's going to look perfect. If someone sets their expectations based on seeing people walk on a ride in a commercial, that's their own fault. Again, common sense has to kick in at some point.

Nope. Diet Coke ads show people drinking Diet Coke, which is ok. Disney commercials show people checking into their hotel and asking to dine with princesses. Not realistic at all. It's false advertising and you know it. You know, the two points are not mutually exclusive. You can love Disney World and admit that their commercials aren't realistic. No one will bar you from the door, but you'll gain some credibility here.

No one should put their hands on someone at a Disney park. I think we can all agree on that. But I get the point that it's a "higher stakes" vacation. When you plan and visualize, you can get disappointed easily. I can think of several times I've been ticked off at other guests. And I think other guests feel that "high stakes" feeling and are willing to do what they have to achieve that vacation that they visualized or that they promised their family.

My last 2 vacations have not been at Disney. There was not that high stakes feeling and no one hacked me off. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so.

 

[21stamps]

Nope. Diet Coke ads show people drinking Diet Coke, which is ok. Disney commercials show people checking into their hotel and asking to dine with princesses. Not realistic at all. It's false advertising and you know it. You know, the two points are not mutually exclusive. You can love Disney World and admit that their commercials aren't realistic. No one will bar you from the door, but you'll gain some credibility here.

No one should put their hands on someone at a Disney park. I think we can all agree on that. But I get the point that it's a "higher stakes" vacation. When you plan and visualize, you can get disappointed easily. I can think of several times I've been ticked off at other guests. And I think other guests feel that "high stakes" feeling and are willing to do what they have to achieve that vacation that they visualized or that they promised their family.

My last 2 vacations have not been at Disney. There was not that high stakes feeling and no one hacked me off. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so.

I think their commercials are very exaggerated. I think most commercials for anywhere are very exaggerated.. Beaches, Atlantis, WDW, Universal.. all of them, and many more.

I think common sense should make a person realize that they are all an exaggeration of what will actually happen.

 

[contrariwise]

I can't understand why every time I shop at Victoria's Secret, I don't walk out looking like Gisele.

Man, you are going so far to prove a point. I have never seen a clothing commercial and thought I would look like a model if I bought the clothes. I do expect the clothes to look the way they represent.

If Disney showed the parks as they are with supermodels riding the rides, I would not have a beef. They show people, regular people, showing up and THEN making plans. It's not realistic. It's false.

 

[contrariwise]

I think their commercials are very exaggerated. I think most commercials for anywhere are very exaggerated.. Beaches, Atlantis, WDW, Universal.. all of them, and many more.

I think common sense should make a person realize that they are all an exaggeration of what will actually happen.

I appreciate that you admit they're exaggerated. I really do. I was not expecting that.

I do not agree that everyone exaggerates to that extent. I think a lot of people have a problem with the extent of planning involved in a Disney World trip. You may not, but surely you know that a lot of people do. They gloss over and minimize and even go so far as to imply that no planning is necessary. It's misleading and frankly, disappointing. Pepsi commercials don't imply that Pepsi has no calories and is health food.

 

[21stamps]

Man, you are going so far to prove a point. I have never seen a clothing commercial and thought I would look like a model if I bought the clothes. I do expect the clothes to look the way they represent.

If Disney showed the parks as they are with supermodels riding the rides, I would not have a beef. They show people, regular people, showing up and THEN making plans. It's not realistic. It's false.

See my above comment. Where have you been that was exactly, to the T, as it was in the commercial?

Six Flags? A Cedar Fair park? SeaWorld? Universal? Atlantis- did you walk right on a slide there? Or did you wait, with all of the cruise day guests..even though their commercials never show the lines, or tell you that cruise day pass people will be there?

I appreciate that you admit they're exaggerated. I really do. I was not expecting that.

I do not agree that everyone exaggerates to that extent. I think a lot of people have a problem with the extent of planning involved in a Disney World trip. You may not, but surely you know that a lot of people do. They gloss over and minimize and even go so far as to imply that no planning is necessary. It's misleading and frankly, disappointing. Pepsi commercials don't imply that Pepsi has no calories and is health food.

They send you a booklet to plan. They send you emails. And they have an app. People are not as uninformed as some of you are making them out to be.
Day guests- maybe. Most of them probably do not plan as much, they probably are also doing other things in Orlando, and realize that crowds exist. Again, just as they do at any park.

I hate Disney planning. I stressed and stressed and stressed some more last year. The stress wasn't worth it. My family had more fun when I stopped trying to make everything perfect. So I know it can be done. "We", myself included, stress ourselves out more than we need to.

 

[GoofGoof]

Nope. Diet Coke ads show people drinking Diet Coke, which is ok. Disney commercials show people checking into their hotel and asking to dine with princesses. Not realistic at all. It's false advertising and you know it. You know, the two points are not mutually exclusive. You can love Disney World and admit that their commercials aren't realistic. No one will bar you from the door, but you'll gain some credibility here.

Technically this isn't false advertising, at least in legal terms. In order for an ad to qualify as false advertising you need:

1. A statement of fact that is false
2. The false statement has to deceive or have the potential to deceive a substantial portion of the target audience.
3. The false statement has to affect the purchasing decisions of the audience
4. There is proof of actual loss from the false advertisement

Showing people dining with Princesses qualifies as #1. It would be pretty hard to prove #2 but I would assume the vast majority of viewers know they can't actually dine with a princess. Without #2 the 3rd and 4th criteria are out too. If there was any chance Disney could be held liable for false advertising someone would have sued them long ago. People sue Disney all the time.

The ads are not intended to deceive people into thinking they can eat with a princess or ride an empty roller coaster alone. They are using artistic license to try to sell a feeling or an attitude. The Wizarding World of Harry Potter ads for the new land in Hollywood show a girl in the park take out a wand and point it at the castle and all of the lights come on. They aren't telling you that you can do magic or turn the lights on if you go there. It can't be taken literally.

 

[Laketravis]

I hate Disney planning. I stressed and stressed and stressed some more last year. The stress wasn't worth it. My family had more fun when I stopped trying to make everything perfect. So I know it can be done. "We", myself included, stress ourselves out more than we need to.

And often that stress manifests itself verbally towards other guests, as may very well be the case with this woman.

 

[Laketravis]

Technically this isn't false advertising, at least in legal terms.

It may not be false advertising but it can certainly lead to false expectations.

 

[GoofGoof]

It may not be false advertising but it can certainly lead to false expectations.

For anyone foolish enough to think they will be dining with an actual princess...yeah false expectations. For the other 99% of the world, it's just an ad. If you take every ad on TV or radio 100% literally you would be constantly disappointed.

 

[Laketravis]

For anyone foolish enough to think they will be dining with an actual princess...yeah false expectations. For the other 99% of the world, it's just an ad. If you take every ad on TV or radio 100% literally you would be constantly disappointed.

Must be a lot of fools out there. Could explain the reason why car commercials often have the disclaimer "Professional driver - do not attempt" or weight loss commercials state "Results atypical - not all clients achieved these results" or Farmers Insurance stating "Robot depicted as uninsured motorist only. Farmers Insurance does not insure any form of robot or non-human".....

Can't remember seeing any disclaimers in a Disney ad, though........


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[contrariwise]

Technically this isn't false advertising, at least in legal terms. In order for an ad to qualify as false advertising you need:

1. A statement of fact that is false
2. The false statement has to deceive or have the potential to deceive a substantial portion of the target audience.
3. The false statement has to affect the purchasing decisions of the audience
4. There is proof of actual loss from the false advertisement

Showing people dining with Princesses qualifies as #1. It would be pretty hard to prove #2 but I would assume the vast majority of viewers know they can't actually dine with a princess. Without #2 the 3rd and 4th criteria are out too. If there was any chance Disney could be held liable for false advertising someone would have sued them long ago. People sue Disney all the time.

The ads are not intended to deceive people into thinking they can eat with a princess or ride an empty roller coaster alone. They are using artistic license to try to sell a feeling or an attitude. The Wizarding World of Harry Potter ads for the new land in Hollywood show a girl in the park take out a wand and point it at the castle and all of the lights come on. They aren't telling you that you can do magic or turn the lights on if you go there. It can't be taken literally.

I know you don't know it, and you will never know it, but you have just proved my point.

If you have to defend it to that extent, then it needs defending.

 

[contrariwise]

See my above comment. Where have you been that was exactly, to the T, as it was in the commercial?

Six Flags? A Cedar Fair park? SeaWorld? Universal? Atlantis- did you walk right on a slide there? Or did you wait, with all of the cruise day guests..even though their commercials never show the lines, or tell you that cruise day pass people will be there?



They send you a booklet to plan. They send you emails. And they have an app. People are not as uninformed as some of you are making them out to be.
Day guests- maybe. Most of them probably do not plan as much, they probably are also doing other things in Orlando, and realize that crowds exist. Again, just as they do at any park.

I hate Disney planning. I stressed and stressed and stressed some more last year. The stress wasn't worth it. My family had more fun when I stopped trying to make everything perfect. So I know it can be done. "We", myself included, stress ourselves out more than we need to.

Chicago and a luxury resort in a flyover state. There were no commercials to misrepresent.

There are tons of misinformed people. Tons. You are right that Disney doesn't totally hide the ball. Doesn't mean that it doesn't have challenges. Surely you know that.

 

[21stamps]

Chicago and a luxury resort in a flyover state. There were no commercials to misrepresent.

There are tons of misinformed people. Tons. You are right that Disney doesn't totally hide the ball. Doesn't mean that it doesn't have challenges. Surely you know that.

I think certain people here will go to any extreme to attempt to prove that Disney is the devil.

Pay attention to any entertainment venue or travel commercial.. then go there. I'm willing to bet that you'll see that the experience and the advertisement have their differences.
But, I think that you and a few others already know that.

 

[disney4life2008]

I bet if Beyoncé showed up at a Disney resort she could get ohana reservations, and endless fp lol

 

[disney4life2008]

I think certain people here will go to any extreme to attempt to prove that Disney is the devil.

Pay attention to any entertainment venue or travel commercial.. then go there. I'm willing to bet that you'll see that the experience and the advertisement have their differences.
But, I think that you and a few others already know that.

Idk. Carnival cruise line is pretty spot on.

Holiday inn express is spot on. Every bed has been perfection and i get my free breakfast every morning.

Las Vegas is spot on. It really is 24 hours and nothing i have done has followed me home lol

 

[larryz]

And yet I keep buying that double mint gum hoping those twins will show up

You're really dating yourself with that reference...

 

[matt9112]

I like the way you danced around my statement. Correct, no company is going to highlight their downfalls or issues in their commercials. And I'd wager that at least 90% of visitor's experiences are based on what they see in the commercials. So, when they show families running around, meeting characters at will and jumping on rides with no wait....well, you get the picture.

The adverts always make me chuckle

 

[matt9112]

You're really dating yourself with that reference...

I want twins.....

 

[Dead2009]

Nope. Diet Coke ads show people drinking Diet Coke, which is ok. Disney commercials show people checking into their hotel and asking to dine with princesses. Not realistic at all. It's false advertising and you know it. You know, the two points are not mutually exclusive. You can love Disney World and admit that their commercials aren't realistic. No one will bar you from the door, but you'll gain some credibility here.

No one should put their hands on someone at a Disney park. I think we can all agree on that. But I get the point that it's a "higher stakes" vacation. When you plan and visualize, you can get disappointed easily. I can think of several times I've been ticked off at other guests. And I think other guests feel that "high stakes" feeling and are willing to do what they have to achieve that vacation that they visualized or that they promised their family.

My last 2 vacations have not been at Disney. There was not that high stakes feeling and no one hacked me off. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so.

Fast food chains also show that the burgers they advertise nearly looking perfect after being made instead of being the sloppy mess that they really are.

 

[21stamps]

Idk. Carnival cruise line is pretty spot on.

Holiday inn express is spot on. Every bed has been perfection and i get my free breakfast every morning.

Las Vegas is spot on. It really is 24 hours and nothing i have done has followed me home lol

Does Carnival show the embarkation lines?
I haven't seen a Holiday Inn Express commercial so can't comment there.
You have the exact same experience in Vegas as seen in commercials?only beautiful women around? Do the commercials ever show people losing money at a casino?lol

Point being, if you watch again, they are all a little exaggerated. None are going to show any negatives in an advertisement.